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I have one which replaced a defective unit, returned with no questions asked. The trucks mileage has improved 1. 5 MPG. The performance difference is kind of stealthy. Over the whole operating range, the truck just feels much stronger, and responds to throttle much better, like somebody put a four barrel in place of the two barrel on your gasser. The torque curve seems like it jumped up from idle to 3000 RPM quite a big number. It doesn't come on like a blast in the face, but comes on earlier and quicker. Ah, but climb a big hill, and wow, does it come on strong. I call it subtle, but very satisfying.
ol ron
 
Want mild upgrade for towing while keeping in mind warranty issues. Members who are using a VA, let me know your thoughts.
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01 2500,SB, Club Cab, 5spd,3. 54 LS, Bright White, Camel Leather. 01 Sunnybrook 27' 5ver--All Stock
 
I have run one for 18 months. First on my 2000 then on my 2001. I had one of the original units. I understand that the "new" units are even stronger than the original units. It's probably the best single plug in upgrade you can do. Mi dos pesos... .....

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, EZ with elbow(25PSI) Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag-Hytec Cover, Kleen Wheels, Energy Release, 70 gal. fuel, 20K Reese. 22,000 miles on 12/19/00 (RV Dealer)
 
As for the VA the power is definately there. The low end improvement is huge and lots of guys are claiming a 1-3 mpg improvement. See if someone near you has one that you can try to see if it is the right thing for you right now. You should also look at the connector on the inj. pump to see if there is a sticker of some kind that will be damaged if this plug is removed. The plug is under the intake plenum, the big connector. If you have this sticker and your dealer saw it damaged you would have a fight on your hands. The DD stealth injectors and a boost module that doesn't clip any wires might be another way to go.

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99 2500 QC 4X4 AUTO SB 24V LARAMIE SLT 3. 5 LSD 285-75-16'S Everything but leather NRA Member
 
Have a VA installed along with the 275's. They seem to be a perfect combination for the person who is going to be doing some heavy pulling and not "dragging" everything in sight. The power is remarkable and when tied to the ground with my DTT VB and TC it is the perfect combo to pull the 14000lb 5th wheel I am about to take delivery of. Can't stand to drive the truck without the VA. Good luck!

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2001 Ram 3500 dually, 4:10, auto, SLT+,anti-spin,custom side paint, Custom pin striping,Advanced Thermal Products Sound Blanket Kit, Smittybar nerf step,Geno's stainless wheel well trim, tonneau cover, air dam, chrome monster tip, mud flaps/chrome tips,pyro-trans-boost gauges, Bosch 275 Injectors, Van Aaken, Kondalay TC & Valve Body.
 
Millfly: Once you take delivery of that new 5th wheel, is it going to take us $3. 00 to mail you a 15 cent post card?

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, EZ with elbow(25PSI) Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag-Hytec Cover, Kleen Wheels, Energy Release, 70 gal. fuel, 20K Reese. 22,000 miles on 12/19/00 (RV Dealer)
 
Want mild upgrade for towing while keeping in mind warranty issues. Members who are using a VA, let me know your thoughts.

The VA might be right for you. Very easy to install, unless your plug is as tight as mine, then it takes a few minutes of wriggling. I was afraid I was going to break the plastic on the plug. I think the warranty issue can be argued either way. Even if your model doesn't have the "void" stickers on the plug, any smart mechanic can look at the lack of dust on the plug connections where you just removed the VA a few hours earlier and know exactly what you have done. I recommend you discuss your plans with the OWNER of your local dealer; get his personal word on what the agreement is. Don't ask him to put it in writing; I'm sure he can't do that because of DC.

I have seen no verifiable mpg improvement. I'm finding that mpg varies so much as a function of temperature, that I feel I need to see 60 degree weather again before I can be fair about this.

Power-wise, I did see an improvement. Timed acceleration, 50 to 75 mph dropped from 15 seconds to 10 seconds. In lower gears, I can't tell any difference, because without a load to tow my truck jumps to max rpm shortly after you press the pedal anyway. #ad


Some may point out that the EZ has a boost module, but for towing, I'm not sure you really want to pull increased boost for long periods of time, this is not an advantage in this application (opinion only, I'm sure others disagree). My thoughts are that both products are good, but I like the fact that the VA makes a model that is specifically set up for each version of the Cummins engine (non-HO, HO, RV, etc. ).

With your 5 speed, the VA will allow you to stay in 5th gear longer if you want to push the transmission design limits, but I think it would still be wise to drop to 4th gear (direct drive) when pulling a big load up hill. To do otherwise is just asking for 5th gear problems. And the dealer will probably believe that it was your increased power that failed 5th gear. This answer won't be popular, but I feel that if you install mods like the VA you are taking a big chance on being able to defend warranty claims. I've done some mods, but I'm accepting that risk because I feel a 100k warranty doesn't mean that much anyway, especially on a Cummins diesel with manual transmission. It is at 200k, 300k, 400k where I expect things to maybe start breaking.

If you're towing "heavy" but within rated limits, you might want to consider waiting before BOMB'ing unless you're really unhappy with present power levels.

P. S. - don't forget to get a pyro before you do any power mods.

[This message has been edited by HC (edited 01-22-2001). ]
 
Once you have it in, you'll hate driving without it. Much more responsive. I did not see a milage increase though.
 
HC, I thought 5th was 1:1 on the NV5600... you mentioned that 4th gear was direct drive. I assumed you were talking about the NV5600 (6-speed) as you made reference to the HO engine several times in your post.
 
On the 5 speed, 4th is 1-1, and 5th is OD. Something like . 74

Originally posted by John:
HC, I thought 5th was 1:1 on the NV5600... you mentioned that 4th gear was direct drive. I assumed you were talking about the NV5600 (6-speed) as you made reference to the HO engine several times in your post.
 
Is the VA mild enough to use with a stock Automatic. I plan upgrading transmission when I go with bigger injectors. Is this flawed logic or should I just wait and do all three at one time?

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1999 FLAME RED 2500 SLT, QC, 4X4 AT, 3. 54 AGATE LEATHER

[This message has been edited by M1A2 (edited 01-22-2001). ]
 
One of the transport drivers I use has a 2000/3500 with over 200K on the odo. He was having trouble when pulling an RV of the trannie dropping out of O/D when he would hit a hill. I got him a VA and he runs up and down hills in O/D with no problems. He HAS had 2 VA units fail on him, however they are the old style units. I am going to try and talk him into the new upgrade.

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2001 2500 QC, ETH/DEE,4:10s, LSD, EZ with elbow(25PSI) Boost/Pyro Guages, 4" Turbo back, BD Brake,Mag-Hytec Cover, Kleen Wheels, Energy Release, 70 gal. fuel, 20K Reese. 22,000 miles on 12/19/00 (RV Dealer)
 
John, you are correct. In the nv5600, 5th is direct. In the nv4500, 4th is direct. Since he discusses the HO, he should have the nv5600. Last I heard, the only way to get the HO is to get the nv5600.
 
Sorry I confused folks - I switched horses in the middle of my discussion without giving warning. #ad

When discussing my experiences, I mentioned the HO twice because that is what I have.

But the paragraph that begins "Although the VA will allow you to stay in 5th gear longer... " was directed to John, who said he had a 5 speed; that's why I suddenly started talking about 4th being the direct drive gear.

I'll go back and edit my post to make this less confusing.

[This message has been edited by HC (edited 01-22-2001). ]
 
Thanks--I understood your answer, and thanks to all that responded.
JohnB

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01 2500,SB, Club Cab, 5spd,3. 54 LS, Bright White, Camel Leather. 01 Sunnybrook 27' 5ver--All Stock
 
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