PO'd about fuel $$$$$

[hammersley]

How can the oil companies continue to gouge us - and I know some of you folks work for these crooks - sorry - BUT when they had the guts to show their quarterly profits at an all time high - WTF!!!!This is in you face! These clowns started this at the turn of the past century when Standard Oil was broken up (1899). That turned into Standard Oil of New Jersey. Break that up (1911) and you get Exxon and several other giant oil corporations. I'm sorry - I hope everybody else is P___ed of as much as me! A few weeks back there was an article in USA Today stating that once the $2/gallon barrier - that's right they had the GUTS to say Barrier - was broken - it would be easier to keep it there. This is no free market - iI'm afraid thet these clowns need to be controlled!

 

[illflem]

What do you suggest, the government take it over? Then we'll break the $3/ga barrier easily. Face it, it's the American way, charge as much as the market will bear.

 

[Ray Torresdal]

pricing

Diesel fuel prices were not this bad before the deregulation of the industry. Fuel was considerably cheaper than gas, as it should have been. Once deregulation occured, the fuel companies started subsidizing the price of gas for the mass consumer by sticking it to the diesel buyers - most of whom have no choice - barge industry, railroads, heavy trucking, agriculture, etc. This keeps Joe Consumer happy, but little does he know that he is paying for his cheap gasoline every time he buys a tube of toothpaste, etc.



Ray

 

[daveshoe]

In the early nineties the low sulphur stuff came out and was required for on road fuel. Then the oil companies had to add storage tanks for on and off road diesel. Who do you think has to pay for all this infrastructure,anyway? Also look at the taxes now versus then[road use taxes]. I wonder how much it will cost for fuel when the ultra low sulphur stuff comes out? First you pay to get it out, then you pay to add lubricity back in.

Makes you think about ''Red Pump Special'' Before I have to get out my asbestos underwear, I said ''think about'' --not implement. :-{}

 

[robobx]

What F's me off the most is the obvious gouging. One place up the street is $1. 599 a couple miles up the road, $1. 499. 20 miles the other way $1. 399 and another 50 miles past that $1. 199.

Now freaking come on!!!!!!

I will walk to the $1. 399 station before I frequent the other crooks.

 

[hammersley]

Well wouldn't you like to see the books!

I've seen the BS about the costs - how come the record profits AND no increase in production! Don't give me the environmental laws - American Industry has taken lots of stuff down south and they can build a new refinery in Mexico pretty fast if they wanted to - but why cut their throat! More supply - lower costs - or is it? I'm not sure we know as NOBODY is auditing these books - we have to rely on the oil companies to bring out their stooges and tell us why the costs are going way up. Talk about the fox watching the chicken coop! Something is rotten here - and if you believe the oil companies - then I'm afraid there's a turnip truck with your name on it!

 

[illflem]

Not sure how an American owned refinery would go over with Pemex, the Mexican government owned oil company. Pemex is the only choice you have for fuel in Mexico, their diesel costs more than ours.

 

[rrausch]

Diesel is still 2. 19 down the street in L. A.

I drove 20 miles one way to bag some at 1. 51 and considered myself LUCKY!

 

[tgbol]

Robert

The real crappy thing is that now Shell and Texaco are the same. You can go down the street and get 5 different prices from 1. 51 to 2. 19 for the same product. I think some of these station owners have the attitude that they are going to make up for losses. The oil companies announced today that their profits are up. DUH But i would like to see them pass on some savings.

 

[hammersley]

That's my real concern - lack of

Competition. This isn't a free market when all the oil companioes are merging!

 

[Uncle Joe]

Originally posted by rrausch

Diesel is still 2. 19 down the street in L. A.

I drove 20 miles one way to bag some at 1. 51 and considered myself LUCKY!

This post would have been timely 6 month ago.

Since then the prices have dropped dramatically,

rrausch, I'm guessing you filled up down town(7 miles from SM)

as the price there is about 1. 50-1. 60

Since my last trip to TX(late last year)the prices dropped to 1. 27 in AZ and 1. 19 in Dallas(check flying j or love's),even here in the SF valley it dropped to about 1. 65(from 1. 85 of a few month ago)

BTW:to rrausch,I'm going to take a wild guess,is your truck dark metallic green????????

 

[tgbol]

Well today it was 1. 51 in Long Beach, 1. 71 in Torrance and still 1. 90 to 2. 19 in West Los Angeles.

 

[gitchesum]

Originally posted by illflem

Not sure how an American owned refinery would go over with Pemex, the Mexican government owned oil company. Pemex is the only choice you have for fuel in Mexico, their diesel costs more than ours.

Actually some of their gasoline and diesel comes from the US. They have a pipeline coming out of ElPaso to Juarez.

 

[tgbol]

Robert

It was down to 1. 49 today at the same place.

Tom

 

[rrausch]

That was a nice station Tom, thanks for the tip! Lots of big rigs use the place by the looks of the pumps. I'd definitely go back there. Seedy neighborhood though!

 

[B9Mile]

Take a look at the Home Heating Oil prices of the commodities markets once in a while, and then you can get an idea of the general trend in pump prices.



http://money.cnn.com/markets/commodities.html



These prices follow the trend of crude oil costs.



You can always check the big truck stop places to get a general $$ idea for your qrea. Then you will know how the station around the corner is doing.



These two companies pretty much follow the trends in the commodities prices fairly quickly.

http://www.pilotcorp.com/fuelpricing/fuelpricing.asp

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm



Some local fuel stations don't really care if they move much diesel fuel, so their prices are generally higher.

 

[tgbol]

In the afternoon the rigs are backed up into the street waiting. One of the reasons I like the place is the amount of fuel they pump. I have never had any problems with the fuel from there.

 

[rkressg]

Be glad you are not in the north east.

I would love to see even $1. 59 for fuel. I am still seeing prices around $2. 00 per gal. Yes, I am glad because prices have come down on average $0. 20 but your prices are way too low.

When in doubt, reach for the red handle, it is a quick way to save atleast . 24c

 

[robobx]

Originally posted by RGilbert

Be glad you are not in the north east.

I would love to see even $1. 59 for fuel. I am still seeing prices around $2. 00 per gal. Yes, I am glad because prices have come down on average $0. 20 but your prices are way too low.

When in doubt, reach for the red handle, it is a quick way to save atleast . 24c

You're still seing $2 in the burgh??? I am so glad we moved from Butler to Charlotte! I just filled up on Friday for $1. 299



Have you been up around Butler lately? I think the Quik fill out 422 is well below $2. , last we were home a month ago it was in the $1. 6X range.

 

[tgbol]

Robert

the price was 1. 46 yesterday

Tom