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Went to mail my Blackstone oil sample off. Used the Blackstone Labs mailer, and it was very clean looking.



Went to Post office #1 (Hawthorne, Calif. ) and the clerk asked me what was in it. I told her it was an oil sample to send to the lab for analysis. She said that it was a hazardous material, and they couldnt accept it. I told her that it was double-sealed, and this is the shipping container that is used across the country to mail samples. She took it in the back to have her mgr make a decision. Mgr came out and said no.



I told her this is an official mailer. She told me that if it was punctured, it would leak oil all over the mail. I asked her about how does valvoline, or any major oil company ship oil? In a box full of plastic bottles, basically the same problem with those, only on a bigger scale. I told her this is the mailer that the lab supplies for mailing through the US Post Office. They probably receive hundreds of them a week from the Post office. She didnt buy it. I was polite, & told her no prob, Ill just go to another Post Office & mail it.



Post Office #2. I figured she was basically being overcautious due to our recent situation, and I'd have no problem at this one. Ended up getting the same refusal to accept the container.



If you guys saw this container, you would see it was very clean, and didnt look like its going to leak, and I dont think I looked like "The Mad Bomber" wearing fairly professional clothing.



Funny thing was one of my mgrs was in the line after me, and commented that he didnt think they would accept it either. hmmmm. I told him that there's businesses that rely on these containers to provide the service, and he said that they are gonna have to adapt to changing times.



At that point, was feeling like I was on the wrong side of the battle. He wanted to know why would I send in an oil sample, instead of just change the oil? Did I have some unusual condition? My reply was , uhhh errr, well, ya see... & explained the extended drain interval thing, & so on, but he thought I was reeeeaaaally getting into this oil thing pretty heavy.



If I get a chance, maybe Ill call Blackstone & suggest that they add some wording to the label indicating that the conatiner is "approved" for shipping.



Was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else. . yet?
 
Shortshift did you try mailing it air or ground? They have stricter regs for Air mail. Like AZcummins said just drop it in a mailbox.
 
We mail an oil sample in for each of our compressors every month. We have about 4500 units operating, which means our guys mail off 4500 oil samples per month.



We have standardized on using the plastic bottle from our oil supplier with seal tape enclosed in a sealed plastic bag (ziplock or tiewrapped) and mailed in a box. This came about when one of our boxes with 24 oil samples was smashed at the post office. We had to really fight to make them believe that the bottles were properly sealed.
 
years ago when I was still stuped (I mean young), I returned a torque converter core from a very burnt trans thru UPS. And this converter was a real stinky one, it was a early THM-200 and the fluid was black, burnt electric smell!, I stuffed a rag in the end, taped some plastic over the opening (like take holds on a oil coated shaft?) and marked the box every where in big letters showing which side was the top. Well you guessed it, the driver that picked it up set it upside down in the truck. Anybody that has ever worked with a torque converter knows unless there is a drain hole in it, you can't get all the oil out, (but the UPS guy did!)
 
I would get the location/address of the post offices that refused the oil sample and pass that on to Blackstone. Maybe they can set them straight. I think the USPS could lighten up a bit.



I always throw mine in the box no problemo, and I have the Oil Analyzers prepaid sample kits with included postage which is one nice thing to not hassle with unlike Blackstone.



Vaughn
 
Originally posted by Vaughn MacKenzie

I would get the location/address of the post offices that refused the oil sample and pass that on to Blackstone. Maybe they can set them straight. I think the USPS could lighten up a bit. Vaughn



You know, the USPS is forever whining about how they are losing volume to the internet, yet they refuse ligitimate business like this.



They raise their rates, while the service gets poorer and poorer, and wonder why no one wants to deal with their crap anymore.
 
Higher costs for less service

I recently mailed a certified check to a business in Las Vegas, a distance of 300 miles from my home. It was mailed on 5/23, didn't arrive until 6/3. How impressive. Will the miracles of modern technology never cease?
 
I've USPS mailed oil samples for years with no problems but ran into something I couldn't believe a few weeks ago. Wanted to mail a two and a half gallon jug of an experimental use insecticide to another of our Ag research stations in Montana. This stuff was for sure as hazardous as they come, wasn't even registered with the EPA. I was honest at the PO expecting them to say no. Lady at the PO said no problem! Just had to put it in a plastic bag and box it with padding.



Shortshift, you don't wear a turban do ya?;)
 
Its the commiefornia mentality. I love the state but there some other aspects of living there that suck. I have never been questioned when mailing my samples. Good idea, find the postage amount, put the stamps on it and drop it in the box.
 
Not that it helps, but have never had a problem with the Blackstone mailer. They don't even give it a second look :confused: . Next thing will be a hazardous material charge, like the ones they place on primers or gunpowder, for shipping :rolleyes: . LOL, look out, I have 4 ozs of motor oil, and I'm not afraid to use it.



Scott W.
 
I also use the "Oil Analyzers" pre-paid mailer package and send it through the postal service. I have never had a problem with them accepting them.



Wayne

amsoilman
 
Jetson, Heehee! That aughtta get a look or two.



Nope, no turbine either. This was new to me also! Havent had any problem in the past.



Im thinking that since both post offices were close to each other, there may have been some new procedure come down the pipe and theyre just being overcautious. Who knows, maybe they know something we dont.



Anyways, Ill just stick it in a small box & send it off. It wasnt any real big deal, was just pretty surprised that Id have the same problem at 2 different P. O. 's. Kinda made me a little P. O'd (pardon the pun).



Yep, Good 'ole California... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . Gotta love it.



When will they learn that when they treat people like children, thats exactly what they will get, people that act like children.



Thanks for all the replies. May all your oil samples come out clean, & prosperous.
 
I sent BlackStone an email about this and they sent me a letter to take to the post office with your sample if you think you are going to have problems. If anyone wants a copy of it, send me an email at -- email address removed --
 
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The march of the misinformed! Sounds like some pencil sharpeners need to go back to eraser cleaning!! You may want to contact your postal inspector since some people need some 'helpful clarification'. I asked a friend who IS a helpful postmaster, and I checked postal regulation 52 (available online): since within limits and with proper marking you can mail: diesel fuel (!), paint, varnishes, certain cleaner solvents, non-flammable oil in a double-walled shipper appears to still be ok. You might want to quote from article 52 of the postal code next time if they insist on a 'hot stove' contest!!
 
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