Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) power boxes for 24v

[Wyatt 1]

Divorce

After the catcher, try the Bluechip Redline box. Pricey, but they go to 4000 RPM, and you can get upgrades for the cost of shipping if they ever do any.

man the catcher + twins a better combo, then the redline box?? Whats cheaper divorce or the truck?? Long as I get the truck, does it matter :--)



Just kiddin :-laf



The low end is the only thing right now that concerns me, I knew what I was getting into but things are always getting better

 

[Wyatt 1]

When I switched to the "special" CATCHER, Bob told me that the special version was specifically designed for not only guys running the Comp but for guys with big injectors (Mach 6+, etc. ) and twins as it modified timing less at the top and allowed the entire combination to work better.

Thats the stuff I like to here, a better working combination, thanks DieselRam,

 

[seagrave2001]

I was looking at a comp box but this is cheaper then one & sounds like it is overall better for the engine. My only question is: Is it safe to use with a stock auto transmission and truck?

 

[DieselRam30]

Thats the stuff I like to here, a better working combination, thanks DieselRam,

Not a problem, happy to help.

 

[DieselRam30]

I was looking at a comp box but this is cheaper then one & sounds like it is overall better for the engine. My only question is: Is it safe to use with a stock auto transmission and truck?

I am not going to do a black and white yes or no here. It depends on a lot of things. First, how do you drive? Second, do you tow? Third, what condition is your trans in right now? Fourth, you have EGT, boost, and FP gauges, do you also have trans temp (if it's there sorry I missed it)?



My basic response is: be smart. I would always advise building the truck (read: transmission) before building the horsepower itself. You won't need a complete aftermarket all-billet transmission to handle a CATCHER, but it can't hurt either.



As far as the rest of the truck, it should probably be ok, just watch the EGTs. If they get too hot (especially while towing), it's time for exhaust and intake upgrades.

 

[DISPATCH]

what kind of HP increase do you get with the catcher???



drew

 

[darkhorse]

The CaTCHER yields almost exactly the same top end power that you get with an Edge EZ. Normally about 50 hp. The big difference is in the instant throttle response.

 

[JeffWhite]

you mention a special version for comps, etc. - how about for high output

ETH an '02? I was told that with the higher timing, the ho didn't like the

original Catcher... yes, no, maybe?

 

[darkhorse]

Mine is a "modestly" BOMBed HO & my standard version CaTCHER is wonderful.

 

[Jeepmullet]

modestly, (laughing smiley)

 

[Hohn]

you mention a special version for comps, etc. - how about for high output

ETH an '02? I was told that with the higher timing, the ho didn't like the

original Catcher... yes, no, maybe?

Nope. The HO runs slightly less timing from the factory, and the regular catcher should be just what you need.



That said, I tested the "special" catcher in my HO with Mach 4s, and I can't imagine needing more response or timing. It's just BAM-- it's there!

 

[JeffWhite]

??

Nope. The HO runs slightly less timing from the factory, and the regular catcher should be just what you need.



That said, I tested the "special" catcher in my HO with Mach 4s, and I can't imagine needing more response or timing. It's just BAM-- it's there!

Was this always your concensus? Reason I ask, when I mentioned I would

like to do this upgrade on my truck, to a friend with a SO, he said he thought

it was not the best idea, and I thought he said "just ask Hohn"??? I realize

things and opinions change, just wondering what up.

 

[nps]

I realize things and opinions change, just wondering what up.

If I recall, there was a member (not Hohn) who speculated that timing boxes while towing heavy contributed to the demise of his head gasket due to excessive cylinder pressures. Also believe this member had multiple head gasket failures. Doesn't seem to have been a recurring trend with other members that tow with timing boxes.



Don't recall Hohn's position on the matter. But since Hohn tested the 'special' he remained true to the "less timing is good" theory.

 

[Bob Wagner]

If I recall, there was a member (not Hohn) who speculated that timing boxes while towing heavy contributed to the demise of his head gasket due to excessive cylinder pressures. Also believe this member had multiple head gasket failures. Doesn't seem to have been a recurring trend with other members that tow with timing boxes.



Don't recall Hohn's position on the matter. But since Hohn tested the 'special' he remained true to the "less timing is good" theory.

The member mentioned above is TDR Member Throttle Jockey. TJ I believe lost the whole enchilada not just the head gasket :{



TJ is also running the catcher without timing