Power Service Arctic Express

[bighornram]

This product claims to prevent antigelling of biodiesel.



PS Arctic Express



Too good to be true? Anybody tried this stuff?

 

[67guzzler]

And it's only for B20 according to the page. I wonder if it would make a "dent" in B100 or SVO blends.

 

[BarryG]

I have not played with bio yet. Cant even find it locally without driving 50 miles. However I use the Amalgamated TDR blend in my reg diesel fuel. Last time I ordered a drum they sent a bunch of test reports/propaganda and some of it pertained specifically to bio and anti gelling. Might be worth a check. I think the guys name I have dealt with there is Gary Pipenger (or something like that).

http://www.amalgamatedinc.com/products.htm

 

[HEMI®Dart]

JWolf,



I saw that too. I have no idea where to buy it. It may be only available in 2. 5 gallon jugs? Google is no help either. Power Service won't respond to email requests for where-to-buy.



Barry,



I still have 1/2 of a drum of Amagamated left. GOOD STUFF. I will re-order when this runs out.

 

[bighornram]

Here is the thread where I originally read about Arctic Express.



http://www.boulderbiodiesel.com/forum/viewThread. jsp?forum=4&thread=1084



I have sent an email request for more information. If I hear anything I will post it back in this forum.



If it only can treat b20 there is no value in it since you can treat a b20 mixture with ps, though it will only treat the petrodiesel portion of the mixture. There would be no gain. I have read that there is no treatment for the vegetable oil biodiesel so I am leary of this product but I must remain hopefull.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Here is an anti-gel from Lubrizol:



http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3585



Wintron XC30 looks to be good too. I think you can only order online from UK.



http://biofuelsystems.com/wintron.htm



"Cold flow below -20°C" What's the fahrenheit conversion?

 

[Cattletrkr]

If it only can treat b20 there is no value in it since you can treat a b20 mixture with ps, though it will only treat the petrodiesel portion of the mixture. There would be no gain.

Please calrify what you are refering to. B20 cannot be treated with regular PS. 20% of your fuel will still gell.

 

[LightmanE300]

Please calrify what you are refering to. B20 cannot be treated with regular PS. 20% of your fuel will still gell.

You may want to call up brian wilson at powerservice, he will tell you that either will work actually, and the artic express just more severely depresses the cloud/gel/pour points of the 80% petro diesel in the mix, which DOES lower the points of the overall mix... the 20% bio does not remain separate once in the tank. . Regular powerservice DFS will work fine as well, just not as well as arctic. .

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Here is the new additive from Primrose. I read if your email them they will send some PDF brochures about it.



http://store.avlube.com/pr40biwifuad.html

 

[mhenon]

Would regular gasoline thin biodiesel?

Mike

 

[cj hall]

bio diesel is what, veg oil with all the glysiren removed, gasoline mixes with veg oil great , so one would think it should but why? use kerosine its closer to diesel it will be better for the pump and motor gas is not good for the motor if you do want to use it no more than 5% mix it burns to fast and hot from what i have been told

 

[monkfarm]

I just ordered 2 55 gal drums of the power service (arctic express). I had ordered and received 2 drums of the Primrose and after found that it mixed 1 gal to 75 gal (biodiesel) and the Power Service (arctic express) is a 1 to 200 gal mixture. I will see how it is. So far the primrose seems to be working, but we really haven't had much of a test.

 

[NavyDood]

Cant even find it locally without driving 50 miles.

I'm guessing you need more than 96oz at a time? If not, check your local wally mart

 

[Cattletrkr]

So how's the PS Arctic Express working?? I've got some B20 coming later this week and I want to be prepared.

 

[monkfarm]

The artic express seems to be about on par with the Primrose. It works fine when you put it in before the cold weather. But one thing we've learned about biodiesel is that if the bio is exposed to cold weather without treatment (before blending with #1 fuel, and/or additives) it will form crystals that will end up clogging fuel filters. We have heard of additives that will dissolve the crystals (rumors that this stuff exists in Europe). But Once the crystals form, you need either heat the fuel up to 100 degrees f, or filter the crystals out before the fuel hits the fuel tank. At first we thought the crystals would dissolve at 50 degrees f. (Some missleading info out there) and we heated up the fuel to 70 degrees with still problems (Our Peterbilt with the N14 coughed and sputtered right in the middle of a downtown Minneapolis Freeway, our driver (my brother) (yes I heard about it) had to change filters to get going (fortunately Minneapolis's finest were tolerant of this). So you (We) do have to plan ahead to use the (blessed) fuel we love so much (oh the lubricating qualities) (and the sweet smell) of biodiesel. When you use biodiesel, please keep some extra fuel filters handy. (and a filter wrench). (Just in case)

We've also been researching the microns of the filters. When cold, bio will contract, and thicken) causing really fine filters to start clogging (10 microns and lower) (Which has been the tendency of engine manufacturers to use. )

Filters (20 microns and over) work real good in cold weather. Gotta go, hope this helps.

 

[benhall]

monkfarm,



How is your biodiesel doing in your new blast of cold air? I did some checking on the National Weather Service website and it looks like everyone is below zero up there.



Ben

 

[monkfarm]

We had the problems in the fall we were inexperienced and the first cold weather hit. Now we are filtering everything that goes out (everydrop of fuel that hits every vehicle fuel tank is double filtered) and additives are added and we prepare for the coldest weather. We are running B15 presently. . .

 

[monkfarm]

But, actually I was in Dallas, TX when this last blast hit, going to stock trading school (Online Trading Academy in Irving, TX) Great School!! (Have to make more money, I've been spending it all on tankers, loads of fuel, needy partners, hardware,pipe fittings, 5 and 600 gal fuel tanks and pumps. )