Power Service fuel additive?

[WadePatton]

Best place to get Stanadyne? I've been using the John Deere version of Stanadyne, but they quit stocking the Summer blend in late Summer. I don't care to run the Winter blend all Fall and Winter.



I use Power Service, when I don't have JD. Never have seen ANYTHING elso on the shelf.



Hey, where can a get some Stoddard Solvent too? I use too much acetone for cleaning.

 

[24V-DSL]

Get my Stanadyne at Diesel Injection Service in Lubbock Tx.



800. 658. 9355



Case of six 1/2 gals. shipped to me in Oregon $101. 34 (shipping was $17. 34)



I did a lot of checking, and even with shipping, this matched a price I could have gotten by driving 140 miles round trip to pick it up.

 

[WadePatton]

Uh, okay but I don't need bottles that big. I'll check with them.



They'll order the JD stuff (at the greenandyaller store) for me and give 10% off the normal price, no shipping--I thought that was a decent thing.

 

[illflem]

Originally posted by WadePatton

Hey, where can a get some Stoddard Solvent too? I use too much acetone for cleaning.

Cenex sells it in my area, don't know if they are in TN though. It's used in parts washers a lot. Sort of expendsive, $30 for 5 gallons. I'll bet Napa can get it for you.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I like Amalgamated's additve best so far. It's really the only one that gives you lab results to back it up.

 

[d2500]

looking for lubrication?

Why not ashless 2 stroke oil?



Ashless 2 stroke is intended to be burned without leaving deposits, and is designed for the sole purpose of lubrication. It is also cheaper and more readily available than DFA.



So what’s wrong with adding a bit of oil? Even if it burns a bit faster than the Diesel alone, at 1 oz or less per gallon, it shouldn't matter. Are there other factors that I’m missing (other than the fact that I’d be solely responsible for global warming)?

 

[illflem]

The 2 cycle oil will only add lubricity. You won't get the added benefits of injector cleaning and anti-gel.

 

[jrandol]

I've use Power Service since the truck is new and like it, easy to find and the price is always right. I buy it at $10 or so at Wally World in a gallon jug. Getting lazy, with the 110 gallon in bed tank and the stock tank I just throw in a whole gallon at a time even though it'll treat 300 gallons. I fiquire the extra lubricity is good for my aching VP44. I ran 1 jug of Stanadyne a while back, cant say I gained anything over my usual PS.

 

[illflem]

Jeff unless you're getting a full gallon (128 oz) you're paying too much.

I just bought PS in the standard white jug (96oz, treats 300 ga) from Napa on sale for $5. 99, it's usually $7. 99

 

[jrandol]

Originally posted by illflem

Jeff unless you're getting a full gallon (128 oz) you're paying too much.

I just bought PS in the standard white jug (96oz, treats 300 ga) from Napa on sale for $5. 99, it's usually $7. 99

Wow! I'll have to check the bottle next time I fillup. I think it is a full gallon but I might be wrong. I know I've never seen it for $5. 99 down here. Darn cost of living sucks!! I might have to call your Napa and buy a case or 2!!

 

[pwr2tow]

The Jugs of power service sold at wal-mart are 96 ounce jugs which treat 300 gallons of diesel.



The price up here is $10. ?? per jug.



Ron

 

[LightmanE300]

but isn't it really 150 gallons the 96 ounces treats if you want 'double the cetane boost' which makes the treatment reach comparable levels to other additives?? That makes it $10 to treat 150 gals. Additives that are much better like Primrose is $6 a bottle and treats 187 gallons - with 12 ounces. It's very concentrated, not just tons of filler #2 like powerservice. Even stanadyne is about the same price or cheaper. Powerservice is all about marketing. I've never noticed any SOTP change or benefit from running PS either. When starting up in extreme cold temps up north, the engines started noticeably more quickly and ran more smoothly from the start with stanadyne compared to without or with powerservice. Primrose and stanadyne also give me a smoother/quieter idle. Didn't have a chance to try primrose in the winter because I moved to FL Bottom line is that powerservice is easily available, but there are better choices out there.

 

[OnlyCummins]

Originally posted by LightmanE300

but isn't it really 150 gallons the 96 ounces treats if you want 'double the cetane boost' which makes the treatment reach comparable levels to other additives?? That makes it $10 to treat 150 gals. Additives that are much better like Primrose is $6 a bottle and treats 187 gallons - with 12 ounces. It's very concentrated, not just tons of filler #2 like powerservice. Even stanadyne is about the same price or cheaper. ... snip...

Are you sure about that? Just did a search via Google & came across Primrose's website where I found info for 2 DFAs. Accessed the PDF's for both & they both stated that they were 'only' good for a 3-4 cetane boost. If that's the case, then wouldn't that make Primrose more expensive than PS, ~$12 vs ~$10 (or ~$6, if you live near illflem). Am I missing something?



My local NAPA doesn't even carry PS. Let alone at $5. 99 or even $7. 99! Did notice another DFA in a 1gal 'tin' can that, if I remember right, was priced lower than PS from Wally World or Tractor Supply.

 

[illflem]

Originally posted by OnlyCummins

My local NAPA doesn't even carry PS.

That's because you live in Florida where it doesn't get cold. My local Napa usually has just a couple of bottles until winter hits, then they have a pile of it five feet high.

You've got remember most diesel owners, me included, only use additive in the winter for anti-gel properties.

 

[Claw231]

Tonight I was in a Riley's car parts store and saw a bottle of Lucas Fuel System Treatment. On the bottle it said that it treats both Gas and Diesel. This has been the only treatment that I have seen for both. I thought about trying it, but I want some opinions before I screw up something.

Thanks,



Here is a website that has the fuel treatment on it. ( I hope this works)



http://www.eliteone.com/lucas/fuel.htm

 

[illflem]

I try to avoid one size fits all type products myself.

Besides $60 to treat 500 gallons is way on the high side.

 

[Pit Bull]

If you have a Sam's club by you check and see if they have the Rotella DFA, mine has it for a great price, I've used it for several years and it does a good job.

 

[Shovelhead]

I use the 2. 5 oz dose of Lucas fuel additive in every tank for lubricity.

 

[Mike Ellis]

MMO is pretty cheap compared to the special-purpose additives. Try a jug, and see if it works or if Ellis is simply full of beans.



Of course it could be the MMO fumes talking... (ranks up there with Hoppes #9 for sniffoliciousness)

 

[Mike Ellis]

I went through my Excel spreadsheet of fuel purchases and copied out some "before / after" results for use of different additives. I took care to pick only cases where the driving conditions before/after were similar (extended trips etc). For the cases where mpg is below 20, I was pulling small utility trailer.



The comments indicate what went into the tank at THAT fillup, the numbers on the same line therefore indicate performance of the PREVIOUS tank of fuel. Example: on Feb 4th 2002, I had returned 18. 6 mpg on the previous tank of plain diesel, and decided to put in 16 oz. of PS to see if it would improve. The next tank I filled with plain diesel, and the 18. 8 mpg showed PS didn't do much.



Since my truck has returned average of 20. 1 mpg over its life with a 0. 8 mpg standard deviation, an improvement / reduction of 0. 5 mpg is essentially in the noise and can't be relied upon as evidence of the additive's performance. Interestingly, only with MMO have I seen a statistically signficant increase. My results have indicated that, at least for my truck and driving style, there isn't much difference between PS and Stanadyne performance-wise, and MMO appears to give better results overall. YMMV



Fillup Date Trip Main Gals MPG Comments

02/04/02 544. 8 70728 29. 273 18. 6 Add 16 oz. Power Service

02/07/02 576. 2 71304 30. 577 18. 8 Plain diesel fillup

08/15/02 432 79088 21. 803 19. 8 Added 8 oz. Stanadyne

08/16/02 305. 4 79393 16. 167 18. 9 Added 8 oz. Stanadyne

08/17/02 409. 3 79803 21. 945 18. 7 Plain diesel fillup

08/21/02 602. 8 80405 31. 376 19. 2 Plain diesel fillup

09/10/02 634. 3 81040 31. 767 20. 0 Plain diesel fillup

10/11/02 391. 4 82510 18. 912 20. 7 Add 16 oz. MMO

10/26/02 440. 1 82950 20. 246 21. 7 Plain diesel fillup

11/17/02 541. 1 84081 26. 302 20. 6 Add 8 oz. Stanadyne

12/01/02 479. 9 84561 25. 125 19. 1 Plain diesel fillup

01/13/03 550. 7 86305 29. 056 19. 0 Add 32 oz. Power Service

01/21/03 537. 1 86842 29. 119 18. 4 Plain diesel fillup

10/20/03 575. 5 101724 28. 645 20. 1 Add 16 oz. MMO

10/23/03 527. 1 102251 24. 297 21. 7 Plain diesel fillup