Pre-Summer Question

[biggieou]

I'm getting ready to pull my truck out of the barn for the winter and I was wondering if anyone has a diagram of the fuel system? I want to be able to crank the engine and build oil pressure before fueling it up. I didnt know if there was a hot wire to the pump or not. Last year I thought I disconnected the correct wire, but the damn thing fired up (go figure I actually don't want a Cummins to start and it still does!!). I just want to make sure I dont dry fire it again.



Thanks!

 

[dpuckett]

There is a BLUE wire going to the pump shut off solenoid that powers it. Remove it, and if it still starts, you have probelms with your solenoid plunger, or a definite lack thereof.



Daniel

 

[Greenleaf]

I did the very same thing a couple of weks ago. Pulled the blue wire from the solenoid and cranked the engine over with a battery charger on the battery. Install the blue wire and it will fire right off.



I have been driving both trucks now for several days. What's taking you so long? Still have snow on the ground near Ravenna?

 

[dpuckett]

I'm curious to know why y'all dont drive them in winter. Of course, with GL's govt, job, HE can afford a second vehicle, I guess.



DP

 

[JLEONARD]

I'm curious to know why y'all dont drive them in winter.

Because they operate in the rust belt. It would be a bucket of rust like mine has become. And there's no saving it. Now with the liquid calcium treatment it will be worse.

I would have preferred to let mine sit if I could, but I don't have a place to store it.

 

[Steve Graham]

cut... .

I have been driving both trucks now for several days. What's taking you so long? Still have snow on the ground near Ravenna?

Snow on the ground? Your so lucky! I've already had to mow my yard! At least with the snow you can let it lay, but you gotta cut the grass.

 

[biggieou]

I'm just now getting it out because I got a new job at the Federal Reserve Bank in Cleveland, so I really haven't had the time to get it out. But now the weather is finally picking up and it appears that we should be in the clear for anymore snow(as I say that I'm sure a storm is brewing).

DP we don't drive them in the winter for the reason that JLeonard said. My truck is in it's original condition(no undercoating whatsoever) and it would get demolished in an average winter up here. I've literally watched previous Ranger's of mine disintegrate before my eyes through the course of a winter and theres not a dang thing you can do about it.

Steve, I will take cutting grass over 2 foot of snow and below zero weather. Snow isn't bad as long as you're the only one on the roads, but factor in all the morons that don't know how to drive on dry pavement and it gets 1000x's worse in the snow!

 

[Steve Graham]

Steve, I will take cutting grass over 2 foot of snow and below zero weather. Snow isn't bad as long as you're the only one on the roads, but factor in all the morons that don't know how to drive on dry pavement and it gets 1000x's worse in the snow!

Yea, you don't have to shovel sunshine But on the other hand we have to put up with your "snow birds" here in the winter. There driving down the road at 25 mph sightseeing when your trying to get to work. :-laf

 

[JLEONARD]

What's the matter Steve, they keeping you from making it in time for the early bird specials??:-laf

 

[Greenleaf]

His 0800 T-Off @ the local green.

 

[Steve Graham]

His 0800 T-Off @ the local green.

Make that the local gunrange :-laf

 

[dpuckett]

New road salt....

And why hasnt this cr@p been outlawed? (anyone who has passed Chemistry 101 knows calcium chloride IS *A* salt, just not sodium chloride like table salt). Oh yeah, duh, (possible) racket with body shops, and it forces you to buy newer and newer vehicles, which pollute less, in theory. Guess washing it off weekly or so is out of the question if it snows daily, huh? Why cant they be like rural MO 15 years ago, and spread sand? It doenst hurt anything, the people who crash will crash on wet pavement anyway, so they arent helping anyone by spreading salt.



I mowed the one yard for the second time today. Letting the dogs out all winter really helped green up half the yard.



DP

 

[PToombs]

DUDE! You need to relax! :-laf It barely snows down there anyway.

You can't wash it out of all the cracks, body creases, support panels, etc. Now up here the Thruway Authority is using this stuff called "Magic", some chemical, works better, colder. Slimes up the windows more, comes off harder, turns to a white film almost instantly.

 

[Greenleaf]

Something to do with school buses. They want the pre 07 buses off the road. They tell us the diesel bus is killing kids. There are tons of pre 1990 buses out there still. They hope to finish them off.



My 1990 still has paint on the frame rails and stickers on the drive shaft. The chassis looks nicer than the peeling body paint. :-laf

 

[JLEONARD]

 Now up here the Thruway Authority is using this stuff called "Magic", some chemical, works better, colder

I think that's the calcium cloride crap that they started using here.

So windshield and front of the hood stay nice now... now cracks or chips.

But the body metal disintigrates before your very eyes.

Gee nice tradeoff. Let's the state off the hook.

 

[PToombs]

Jay, I don't think it's even calcium. My friend worked for the T. A. and he said it's a chemical that works colder than calcium. Liquid form, no chips, like you said! When it dries on the window, the wipers WILL NOT take it off, you have to add water to wash it.

 

[Greenleaf]

Magnesium Chloride. It's sprayed on. The tank fits in the dump bed of the truck.



It rots off the brakes lines of your pickup truck and rots the brake table (portion of the brake shoe the lining rivets on to) of big trucks/buses. Basically, vehicles are not safe to drive as components fail that otherwise would not. I have to replace brake shoes with 60/70% lining remaining due to the table rust-jacking the lining loose from the shoe.



Vehicles are getting dangerous to operate. The OTR trucking industry is passing the added cost of maint. onto us, the consumer.



Enjoy.

 

[Jgolden]

I use an old Dodge (82) to plow my driveway. Yesterday I went out and picked up bunch of rust scales, rotted body chunks and pieces of that poor truck that had fallen off onto my driveway.

Would be fun to weigh it and see what the losses have been over the years.



Here they used to just use sand but people( and the legal system) have higher expectations of a clear/dry road when they go to work. Pity the local, county, or state DOT that hasn't cleaned a road when someone who should have stayed home, has a crash.

The liquid stuff is even used in store parking lots. There are some treatments used on salt water boats I'm told that may help but I doubt it. Bass Proshops, "Salt terminator"? I think it is called.

 

[TWorline]

Please do not tell our local DOT about the super chemical, they are just useing salt water on our roads, once a week wether they need to or not. We can always tell when it is going to get "bad" out, they stripe the road and then it rains! The last time they striped it it had not been below 32 degrees in 4 days and the forcast called for light rain and 34 degrees. Well I guess you have to get it out of inventory.

 

[PToombs]

Hey Joe, that's funny! :-laf My buddy used to plow Carousel Mall, he had a 88 F-350 2 wheel with a sander on it. I couldn't turn one nite, (1/2 loaded front was really light!) and whacked a pole with the plow. You should have seen the pile of rust that was knocked loose! I bet it lost 80 or 90 lbs. :-laf