Prime-lLoc Close Out

[Dave Remillard]

I went by Cummins N. W. in Portland Oregon today

to stock up on filters. They are closing out all of their Prime-Loc kits for $59. 95. They are stocked mostly with kits for 92/93 & 98/99, but do have of few of the others they thought. If interested the # is 1-800-283-0336 and ask for the parts counter. They will ship them out for a s/h fee. Had I only waited until now. :--) Try to beat this price.

 

[DEZLPWR]

Hmm, I wonder why they are selling them so cheap...

I seem to remember reading some threads here on the TDR a while back about the Prime-locs potentially causing harm to the Cummins. Not sure if it was just with the 24V, or with the 12V as well...

 

[John_P]

DEZLPWR:



I also read that some of the members had trouble with

the Prime-Locs.



I have had one on my 96' 12 valve since I bought it and

have had no problems with it whatsoever. I like mine,

especially when I go to change that fuel filter!

On my truck you had to "dig" waaaayyyy back under

the firewall to get to the "original" location of the

filter.



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John_P

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

That was a 24v issue. The 24v versions of the prime-loc seem to cause a restriction in an already overly strained system. In my case by simply removing the prime-loc I went from 1 psi to 6 psi at the output of the filter at WOT. I have the prime-loc sitting in the garage that anyone can have for free if they want it.

 

[Dave Remillard]

Looks like Steve's price beats Cummins N. W. Oh well, just trying to help someone save a few dollars. You know, as time goes by I'm sure glad I have a 12 valve. Hard to believe you can't even relocate a dang fuel filter without causing other problems on 24 valve engines.

Maybe thats why they have several kits for 98's. They do have some of the kits for the 12 valve engines however.

 

[illflem]

I directed someone to the Prime-Loc Portland clearance a couple of months ago, all they had on sale was 1st gen and 24 valve models. They had 12 valve units also but wanted the full close to $200 price for them.



The Prime-Locs make it easier to change your filter, something I never thought was difficult to begin with, but in doing so block off access to a large portion of your engine including your injection pump. Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

 

[Dave Remillard]

Illflem What you say is not doubt true, however they must have had a change of heart as I was told they rid getting rid of them all and will not stock them at all. Special order will be the only way to purchase one from them in the future. I would like to see your arms and hands some time, because you have to be verrrry limber and double jointed to get to the filter other wise. Maybe you could share your method with us. I tried myself for more time than my patience would allow and ended up having Cummins change it out. I watched the first time and it took their mechanic nearly an hour from start to finish. This thread was meant to let folks know about this sale that may have been thinking about getting one, and its only a toll free call to find out what they have available. Not to start a debate that is now beginning to look almost like the oiled air filter thing. To each their own.

 

[illflem]

no-strokin, the trick to changing the filter on your '95 is to remove the two nuts holding the brake booster/master cylinder on then swinging it towards the drivers side. It looks like it is held rigidly in place with metal brake tubing but in fact it moves very easily. Also disconnect the vacuum line to the booster, it just pulls off. Only other trick is to open the filter bleed screw and use a broom handle on the manual pump to remove the air. If the pump doesn't seem to be getting a full stroke bump the engine to move the cam slightly. 15 minute max job, I find the hardest part to be disconnecting the water in fuel sensor wires.



The fellow I directed to Portland Cummins NW for the Prime-Loc hadn't ever changed his fuel filter because he though it required special arms also. After I shared the above tricks with him he was thankful that CNW didn't have his Prime-Loc on sale, he found the stock filter to be easy also.

 

[Koa Man]

I just changed the fuel filter on my truck two days ago, for the 4th time, and timed it with a stop watch from start (popping the hood) to getting the engine started again. Took a total of 23 min. 17 sec. My filter is in the stock location. I install the filter unfilled and push the prime button about 120 times (that takes about 90 sec) to fill the filter canister. Turn the engine over for about 5 seconds each time and on about the 5th try it fires up.

I do not disconnect the master cylinder or anything else. Hardest part like illflem said, is disconnecting the water sensor and slipping the filter strap wrench over it.

 

[Dave Remillard]

Again this thread was intened to let folks know what was available, and not a debate. I appreciate those that have found other ways to take care of their trucks, but we can't all be wizards. ALOHA

 

[Turbo Thom]

KOA Man:

You just told the world why I got the Prime-Loc. The filter wrench. I never could use one and would just twist it off. I have the stength to do it but then I would look like a cat got my arm.



A new style filter wrench would serve me well



OK now, who's the designer here? CPFF?



. . Preston. .

 

[Koa Man]

It was not my intention to put down the PrimeLoc or those who use it, or cause a "debate" or brag about my "mechanical prowess. " Just wanted to show that it is not a difficult or time consuming job after doing it a couple of times. (illflem does it 8 min. faster than me. ) The filter strap wrench I use (purchased at Checker) is the one that uses a 1/2 dr. extension. Tape the extension on so it doesn't fall off and you can get it under and around the filter. I use the wrench to loosen it only, then take it off and use the ziplock bag trick so diesel doesn't spill all over and twist it off by hand. The key to doing most things quick and easy is repetition. I have no doubt that no-strokin and Turbo Thom (and everyone else) can do a ton things a lot faster than me, simply because you do it all the time. I read that Bill K can remove a trans, replace a TC and get the truck running again in 1. 5 hours. . I would give myself a min of 12 hours for that job, simply because I haven't don't it before and don't know what to expect. If I offended anyone with my previous post in this thread, I apologize.

 

[illflem]

I just use a large pair of Channel-Locs to loosen the filter. With the booster out of the way there is plenty of room.

 

[Turbo Thom]

No KOA Man:

You took it wrong. Everythings cool. No problem.



. . Preston. .