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msperos said:
You bet Rusty Thats little ol' me I could pull the same info on you with the last name Creekside, Born in 47' :rolleyes: . Do you shred every piece of mail,. I'm just saying there are bigger risks out there. So thanks for googling me if you're in Colorado stop by I'll smoke ya a brisket :D
Try that and you'll come up dry - that's not my last name (look again - the correct one is on my profile. ) Yes, I do shred credit card applications and anything else with data subject to identity theft.



One of my employees had his identity stolen just before Christmas by a dishonest store manager who took his check and driver's license number, printed up a number of blank checks and has forged thousands of dollars of checks before being caught. The individual whose identity was stolen is already getting hate mail and phone calls from the merchants who took the bad checks wanting their money (despite the fact that they know the checks are forgeries. ) In addition, he is having to change all his banking and driver's license information and carry notarized affidavits from several Houston-area police departments stating that he's a victim of identity theft since warrants are being issued for his arrest based on the information on the forged checks. So, yes, I see how it affects individuals and take it very seriously.



The same goes for you - if you find me and find out where I live, drop by and I'll fire up the smoker and we'll have some good Texas-style brisket! :D



Rusty
 
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Sounds good brother. the offer is open come on up we'll fire her up... . My wifes identity was stolen a long time ago it was a ***** to clear. If some one wants it they'll get it this board is the least of my worries.
 
RT66DOC said:
How long has this been going on? A major violation of trust as far as I'm concerned. If "management" is trying to figure out the most efficient way to cause this site to crash and burn, they've hit on a real winner.



No more posts from yours truly unless/until this changes. Hard to believe; makes me sad.



This policy has been in effect since 2001. If it is a concern of yours if you remove your location (which you don't have listed) it will remove just about any chance of anyone locating any information about you. All that someone could find out about you is that your last name is Adams - how many Adams are there in the United States? We know of zero instances of any problems being caused by this policy in the 5 years it has been in place. We have however had MANY instances where we have had communications from members where it helped.



Here is a copy of the announcement that was put up back in 2001 when the policy was changed:



From: Robin Patton



As promised, once the activations/reactivations were caught up, I have taken a look at the decision to post TDR subscriber last names on the TDR website.



While no final decision has been made (today is the first day I’ve been able to sit and quietly study all of the input I have received) I am taking action to TEMPORARILY suppress the user title field. This will make your last name invisible to everyone but the TDR administrative staff and moderators. I stress this is a TEMPORARY situation; it will allow a cooling-off period for those of you who have allowed this to become an emotional issue. It also allows me time to seek additional input from users, Internet professionals, the TDR moderators and legal staff.



User concerns. As I understand from your posts, e-mails and telephone calls, the key issues are:



- “I’m afraid of identity theft. ” Please keep in mind that the ONLY information that the TDR is disclosing is your last name. We do not require or even suggest that you post any other identifying information (you can even suppress your e-mail from viewing by others). The only way you are identified on the TDR Website is via your username (which you can select and request it be changed, as needed) and your last name (i. e. Diesel Fanatic/Patton).



- "I'm afraid someone will ‘spam’ my e-mail account. ” Please note that several users choose to use free Hotmail, Juno or any of a host of other free e-mail services for purposes of setting up their TDR Website account. They keep their “personal” e-mail accounts private and use their free e-mail accounts to gain access to public forums. Note that with this new software, you can change your e-mail address (as well as password and all other personal information and signature) easily and as frequently as you like.



- “I’m afraid someone will be able to physically locate me. ” Again, keep in mind that the ONLY information that the TDR is disclosing is your last name. Any other identifying information that is posted, you posted and you can delete at any time.



- “I’m afraid that D/C or Cummins will void a warranty claim I may present. ” Again, keep in mind that the ONLY information that the TDR is disclosing is your last name. Only for the very few of you who have very unusual last name’s should this be a serious concern.



Organizational concerns. We have attempted to censor the site and/or reprimand people participating in the TDR Discussion Forums very little. We struggle with a few individuals posting inappropriate comments, disrespecting others and their views, suggesting (with some level of authority which they may/may not possess) that truck owners do things that would not be in the best interests of their vehicles. The ability to remain totally anonymous discourages personal responsibility. Fortunately, 99% of the TDR members exercise tremendous restraint in what they post. Unfortunately, 1% does not. And that 1% makes it difficult for the rest of us. I believe that some personal accountability increases the value of the material posted/information offered/courtesy extended.



Resolution. I have received an abundance of constructive criticism this past week. Since very little of that input has offered meaningful suggestions that would eliminate users’ concerns while minimizing the organizational concerns, I have to assume that there is no easy answer. If there were an easy answer, we would have found it by now.



In an attempt to address both sets of concerns, I have drafted the following plan. This is a draft only; it is subject to change based on input from users, moderators, Internet professionals and legal staff.



- Temporarily turn off users’ last names from view to the public.



- Effective October 1, 2001 (or as soon after that date as we can organize this process) we will reactivate this field (last names) for viewing.



- At any time, for anyone wanting to “disassociate” from prior posts (for any reason or for no reason at all), the TDR Staff will be glad to set up a new username and password for you. If we “delete” your old username, old posts will be reflected as posted by “Guest,” removing concerns regarding historical posts. If we “inactivate” your old username, old posts will remain viewable to the public just as they were posted. If you elect this option, we encourage you to set up a free e-mail account to further insure you remain anonymous.



If you have constructive ideas for improving this plan, I would like to hear them. Please e-mail me at rpatton@ix.netcom.com. But please, constructive input only. To be honest, I’ve had more than enough badgering, threatening, and discourteous comments from the 1%.



To the rest of you, thank you for your business and your continued support of the TDR magazine as well as website. Your support is truly appreciated and valued.



Prepared and posted: June 9, 2001
 
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RustyJC and msperos,

Hey, if I can find both of you can I stop in for brisket? Texas style sounds very good. I'll bring the beverage.



BTW-what time is dinner?
 
Sure - I just need about 8 hours notice to have it ready when you get here (wherever here might be - I've changed my location to a more generic version of here. ;) :D )



Rusty
 
RustyJC said:
Are you THIS ONE? :D



Rusty

What's your point Rusty? (and don't say trying to make a point). You don't even have an unlisted phone number, but I won't post it here. :rolleyes:
 
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Wow, I never even noticed that! Someone likes you r truck, sees your in XXX XXXXX Nevada, look up your last name in the phone book and dam your truck is easily found. Some of us have THOUSANDS into our rigs, And for the time being, I guess Ill pull my User info under location. I have seen others recently do so after reading this thread. Not paranoid, Just cautious. I have faith in My TDR brothern I have met, But there are others out there with alterior motives I am sure. 0. 02.
 
Guys,



In all seriousness if someone wants to "steal your identity" all they have to do is grab your license plate number.



The only people who can see the last names are TDR members. Non-members, site visitors, etc cannot read user profiles where the last name is located.



Personally I see no risk here with my last name showing up, and honestly don't get the panic about it. Speaking as a member, not as a site moderator, just to clarify.



*EDIT* Oh BTW as a moderator not only is my last name visible to the entire world, non-members included, but so is the first letter of my first name. Heck some of us even have our full first and last names listed. If anyone should be screaming it should be them. Relax people. :)
 
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i'm aware of the risks of identity theft but every time you use a check, credit card, show your drivers license for i. d. ... etc, you run the risk ...



i do worry about dodge realizing who i am and denying warranty requests as i do have a rare last name ... but that's just part of the game i got into when i began modding the truck ...



fwiw this site has saved me MUCH more money that dodges warranty services have ...



although if it ever comes up for a vote i would vote for no last names



thanks
 
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Paranoid?

I'm not.

Do you guys ever give your credit card to a waitress or give out personal information on a cell or corless phone. Or what about when your buying all of these goodies for your trucks. Do you really know who is taking your info? The list can go on and on. You can't live your life in a box, paranoid about every little thing. If that is how you want to live more power to you. I want to enjoy it!



That's my two cents.



P. S I have had my info stolen.
 
Parks-



I'm a bit confused... . I have been following this thread and will look at what folks have listed in the personal profile. When I click on yours, I see that where others last names are located... . your shows up as "super moderator. " :confused:



Now, Your Highnesss, (joke) how, why, can those who wish not to have there last names show up like yours does not.



BTW- What exactly is a 'super moderator'



... and where goes one get such a cape? :D
 
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All of the moderators show up as a super moderator on their user title. A super moderator has moderating privileges over all of the forums. A moderator only has privileges in his own forum. We have everyone as super moderators so they can cover for each other. All of the moderators have their names listed right under their handle right on the main forum screens - everyone can see our names.
 
Steve St. Laurent said:
All of the moderators show up as a super moderator on their user title. ... ..... All of the moderators have their names listed right under their handle right on the main forum screens - everyone can see our names.

Aha- Thanks for clearing that up!



This seems to be an issue of TDR wesite policy. What if a poll were to be taken as to how the (paying) members feel about the last names being listed. Would the administrators entertain the wishes of the masses?
 
We received lots of input from the membership when the policy decision was made back in 2001. Everyone's input was taken into account and the policy was made. I don't foresee it changing.
 
Steve St. Laurent said:
We received lots of input from the membership when the policy decision was made back in 2001. Everyone's input was taken into account and the policy was made. I don't foresee it changing.

I tend (as of now) to agree with Steve. Is sounds as if this was discussed ad nauseum back in a day. This is now a matter of policy that is up the the member who is signing up to be aware of. If the terms are not agreeable to the signee, then decline it becoming a member



If this is policy, so be it. I do feel that we may lose a lot of expertise if this is to be. It also seems as if other websites do not have this policy though. Is our website flexible for the benifit of the whole?



BTW- should I even be adding input since I do not mind my name being out in the breeze? I am a pying member and I'll support what the majority or the administrators desire! It is a great site!
 
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Steve St. Laurent said:
This policy has been in effect since 2001. If it is a concern of yours if you remove your location (which you don't have listed) it will remove just about any chance of anyone locating any information about you. All that someone could find out about you is that your last name is Adams - how many Adams are there in the United States? We know of zero instances of any problems being caused by this policy in the 5 years it has been in place. We have however had MANY instances where we have had communications from members where it helped.



Here is a copy of the announcement that was put up back in 2001 when the policy was changed:



No, my location is not listed as I removed it a couple hours ago.



Sorry, Steve. Mia culpa that I didn't notice the 2001 change. But better late than never - I'll submit my "resignation" post haste and would have done so in '01 had I noticed the policy announcement. Again, I take full responsibility for my ignorance.



As was said before, "Take it or leave it", "Here's your money back" is a lame response, IMO - arrogant, condescending and never expected from TDR, of which I have been a part since before this site existed. Hell, I have every issue of the TDR since Number Freakin One. Now I have the last one in my collection.



My "Member Since" whatever it is reflects only the date when the board was changed. I joined TDR in '96 when I bought my truck and have been on this forum since its inception. So, just about ten years x 35 bucks a year = $350 and worth every penny for the knowledge, access to expertise and camaraderie I have found here.



At this point, the issue, to me, is more that of your imperious attitude than the disclosure of my last name. Reminds me of Henry Ford - "Give 'em any color they want as long as it's black. "



Thanks a bunch for re-publicizing my last name.



Vaya con Dios and keep the "refund".



Hmmm... just noticed this is my 666 post. How poignant.
 
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