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Hey guys, quick update to those that were following my last post on the new pump I'm trying. I'm working off the laptop tonight, so I don't have any pics. to post, but it's this pump 
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The install was the same as any frame mounted pump by the tank, my existing (from the Mallory) relay was used to provide the power to the pump. At the request of PE, I removed my pre-pump Earl's screen filter. It's plumbed in as follows... Earl's compression fitting is on the inbound hardline, which is installed just foward of the where it is visible on the frame as it exits the tank area. My compression fitting is -6AN, so I had already adapted it to -8AN via -6 to -8AN coupler. After that the -8AN line runs directly to the inlet of the pump. At the pumps outlet, it's -8AN line foward to the fuel filter inlet, where it is again reduced to -6AN to adapt the the Weber fitting (no inbound banjo bolts, pre or post filter, all are Webers).
Initial observations... the pumps exterior appearance is almost to nice to mount on the frame of the truck, as seen in the pic. above. The inlet/outlets are o ringed and the pump was sent with -8AN fittings. I ordered the pump to be pre-set at 17 psi's, thinking I would be seeing 16 psi's post filter at idle. Once the pump was in and running I see that I have 15 psi's pre filter, not a big deal but I have to wonder what happened to the other 2 psi's ??? Perhaps they test with a more restrictive setup than what is on my truck, I'm not sure. Regardless, from my very limited testing on wet roads, here's what I've seen so far... .
15 psi's at idle=14 psi's at idle post filter, no surprise there as my FF is fairly new, with about 5,000 miles on same. While running at idle in neutral, I brought the RPM's up to 2800, which brought the post filter psi's down to 13, according to the SPA gauge. Again, no real surprise as I was not under a load. Once on the road, I tried a few WOT runs with the TST off (road conditions were not favorable). The lowest I could drag the psi's was 11 post filter. Similar conditions with the Mallory would have yielded a reading of about 8-10 psi's.
Dislikes... only one so far. The mounting system consists of four threaded bolts that appear to be 3/16". The threaded ends are seperated by a section of rubber, apparently to isolate the pump from the frame/vibration. I built a simple bracket out of 3/16" stock steel so that the pump would mounted at about the same height as the bottom of the fuel tank. The bracket was bolted to the frame and then the pump was mounted on the bracket. Everything looked good until I mounted the pump to the bracket, the pumps weight on the rubber mounts allowed the pump to list downward at the inlet (if you look at the pic. above, you will see the mounting bolts, the bolts do not run through the rubberized section, hence the sag when weight is applied). I was running late for work so i corrected this problem with a temporary fix of a zip tie, through the frame and secured to the pump's body, just inward of the inlet fitting. It will be a simple fix to replace those bolts with some straight stock 3/16's bolts and a simple rubber spacer pad, just want to call the Co. before I make any changes to their mounting system. That's my only gripe to date.
Here's a link to PE http://www.productengr.com/PE_4300.htm . I am posting this as information only and don't expect anyone to run out and try this pump, as it is untested in our trucks. Also, I didn't choose this pump for it's rated 270 GPH flow. The pump is backed by a two year warranty. I spoke at length with a rep. from PE and he is well aware of my intended use. They are confident that the pump will last for our applications, time will tell but I intend to find out. I'd also like to thank CScott, a fellow TDR member, for bringing this pump to light as a possible solution to our lift pump woes.
Sorry for the long post, I'll post some pics. of the install Sunday night.
Scott W.
#adThe install was the same as any frame mounted pump by the tank, my existing (from the Mallory) relay was used to provide the power to the pump. At the request of PE, I removed my pre-pump Earl's screen filter. It's plumbed in as follows... Earl's compression fitting is on the inbound hardline, which is installed just foward of the where it is visible on the frame as it exits the tank area. My compression fitting is -6AN, so I had already adapted it to -8AN via -6 to -8AN coupler. After that the -8AN line runs directly to the inlet of the pump. At the pumps outlet, it's -8AN line foward to the fuel filter inlet, where it is again reduced to -6AN to adapt the the Weber fitting (no inbound banjo bolts, pre or post filter, all are Webers).
Initial observations... the pumps exterior appearance is almost to nice to mount on the frame of the truck, as seen in the pic. above. The inlet/outlets are o ringed and the pump was sent with -8AN fittings. I ordered the pump to be pre-set at 17 psi's, thinking I would be seeing 16 psi's post filter at idle. Once the pump was in and running I see that I have 15 psi's pre filter, not a big deal but I have to wonder what happened to the other 2 psi's ??? Perhaps they test with a more restrictive setup than what is on my truck, I'm not sure. Regardless, from my very limited testing on wet roads, here's what I've seen so far... .
15 psi's at idle=14 psi's at idle post filter, no surprise there as my FF is fairly new, with about 5,000 miles on same. While running at idle in neutral, I brought the RPM's up to 2800, which brought the post filter psi's down to 13, according to the SPA gauge. Again, no real surprise as I was not under a load. Once on the road, I tried a few WOT runs with the TST off (road conditions were not favorable). The lowest I could drag the psi's was 11 post filter. Similar conditions with the Mallory would have yielded a reading of about 8-10 psi's.
Dislikes... only one so far. The mounting system consists of four threaded bolts that appear to be 3/16". The threaded ends are seperated by a section of rubber, apparently to isolate the pump from the frame/vibration. I built a simple bracket out of 3/16" stock steel so that the pump would mounted at about the same height as the bottom of the fuel tank. The bracket was bolted to the frame and then the pump was mounted on the bracket. Everything looked good until I mounted the pump to the bracket, the pumps weight on the rubber mounts allowed the pump to list downward at the inlet (if you look at the pic. above, you will see the mounting bolts, the bolts do not run through the rubberized section, hence the sag when weight is applied). I was running late for work so i corrected this problem with a temporary fix of a zip tie, through the frame and secured to the pump's body, just inward of the inlet fitting. It will be a simple fix to replace those bolts with some straight stock 3/16's bolts and a simple rubber spacer pad, just want to call the Co. before I make any changes to their mounting system. That's my only gripe to date.
Here's a link to PE http://www.productengr.com/PE_4300.htm . I am posting this as information only and don't expect anyone to run out and try this pump, as it is untested in our trucks. Also, I didn't choose this pump for it's rated 270 GPH flow. The pump is backed by a two year warranty. I spoke at length with a rep. from PE and he is well aware of my intended use. They are confident that the pump will last for our applications, time will tell but I intend to find out. I'd also like to thank CScott, a fellow TDR member, for bringing this pump to light as a possible solution to our lift pump woes.
Sorry for the long post, I'll post some pics. of the install Sunday night.
Scott W.
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I had the same problem w/ the rubber isolators on a Pre-Luber on one of my other trucks. I was thinking about using them on the Summit pump if it had not leaked, but w/ only two mounting holes, I decided that they wouldn't work. Man, those things are noisey. BTW the 4601 is working great. WOT=10. 5psi. 
. When I saw the mounts the PE came with, I was skeptical, but I figured 4 bolts would surely support the pump, HA !. LOL at the multicolored zip ties ( can you send me the link and do they have anything that wouldn't clash with anodized blue and gold 
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