Competition Promotion of Diesel Motorsports

[COMP461]

I guess the post is not to distinguish between the DHRA and NHRDA , it is more of the responsibility that I feel some people should take in the promotion of the sport.

I don’t think that the problem is with the members of either organization, but with a deep held belief that leadership is some how a conflict of interest,. I do not have first hand knowledge, but hear the stories from the embattled sides. I do have a problem, in what I hear from the grape vine about some things that disturb me.



I will let the people know the reason I switched from Indy to the NHRDA race, and later had to cancel because of problems not involved in any way with the racing team. Believe me I have experiences in making deadlines, I could have made that race if I had been allowed to go, but a fire department deal, involving National security , was the real reason. I also heard ahead of time that DHRA was going to tech me with a fine tooth comb at the track, even thou I have passed tech at NHRA races all year long. KTACUMMINS or Brian Block assured me this would not happen, and I think he would have tried to the best of his ability’s to give everyone a fair shake. But……. I was not driving 800 miles for a 4 hour long race on two days. To be disrespected in this way.



I know that good money was offered to the other fast team to just show up, I would not have accepted the money, just not the way I race, but, it was never offered, nothing but rumors of a tech Fieldday was the word .

I know for a fact that none of the pro car were even teched, I have been snubbed by the DHRA in every way, on their very web site is a truck that has never made a successfully pass , and Eric’s dragster , which has yet to make a respectable pass. I know that attempted were made to keep me out of Diesel Power magazine, but I still have the ability to get thru the BS and present my point. Why should I support them in any form or fashion?



Now if some one with out conflicts of interest, like say David Dunbar, or

David Lot would step forward, I might help out. David and Brian Block were the only reason I even considered, taking time out of a heavy R&D program to go racing. I have more then one project, Diesels are not my only project, but they have become a passion.

Another example is COMP. Now I know we dont see eye to eye on some things, and I am sure that his intentions are good. Not showing up at a major event to me is wrong. It does not promote the sport at all. Here is a man that has the fastest truck ( for now ) and doesn't show up. Maybe there were actually other commitments or the owner wouldn't let him come out to play. If that was the case then, its out of his control. But along with having the fastest truck, isn't there a responsibility that also comes with that?



I do like the fact that he is willing to race for charitable organizations and the like, that in itself is showing a responsibility.





See where I am going with this?

I don’t mean to offend the little guy by not going to the diesel only races, but the fact is, most every one at those races, like everyone on here is already entrenched in who they like , the demographics is not diesel performance diesel owners .

You go to Major dragging events where a large number of people there, and quite a few are diesel owners, that have never heard of diesel performance outside of UNCLE GALE, no offence Gale, I know you will be calling on that one, but the truth is that if you intend on marketing a product don’t go to events where the sheer numbers are low of potential buyers. The market for any diesel performance company is not racers, but ranchers, travel trailer pullers, race car trailers pullers, boat pullers and Doc’s core market horseman and their lavish trailers . 99% of the market has never heard of this or any other diesel site.





I have been working foe a while on a project to call attention to diesel as America’s only alterative, for the future energy needs, not only as a efficient fuel, but as a renewable energy source, the market is in need of a push to sway the public to the side of diesel instead of hybrid electric cars . The potential sponsorship market is ripe out there, and these corporate entity’s don’t want to know how fast you are , but a word Scott Benz coined and he and I talk about almost every day Corporate Citizenship, I do a lot of displays , and motivational speaking engagements also, this is the core of what I am .



I do remember the little guy, answering three to four PM a day , and offering my phone number more often then not and few of you on here have taken me up on this , and my knowledge , that I some times share , much to the chagrin of Doc and co.

So the next time people want to bash me for this little entertainment I get by bantering on here remember that I talk with most of my fellow banterer, and do have respect for their views .

 

[Teamropin983]

Eric

Remember that PM on ADM? Excellent post.



Guys don't rip on Comp too bad for not showing up at either of the diesel races. Remember that promoting the diesel sport is not regulated to just racing at diesel event's. Look at it this way if only diesel folks that go to diesel races are the only ones subjected to diesels then the sport want get much bigger than those that are already involved.

Going to gasoline races with a fast diesel sure does get alot of attention and a love or hate reaction from gasoline competitors. So by Greg going to gasoline races he is doing his fair share of promoting diesel racing.



I have been to only one DHRA race with my truck and it got rained out but I have been to WFC 3 times and each time made it in 3 or 4 gasoline magazines reaching thousands of people that would otherwise never be made aware of what we love. I have been in Worlds fastest street car magazine and will now have a nice feature in Ford High Performance Truck magazine put out by Primeadia as well as the new Diesel Power mag. While at WFC8 this year I got to meet the head of Ford Racing and guess what they are very interested in the diesel performance market.



Why am I telling you this? Take the blinders off there are many many ways to promote this sport that do not have anything to do with any diesel organization or diesel race.

Each one of you can be an ambassador to diesel racing everywhere you go.

Just make sure you don't tell any tree huggers about all the black smoke though as that could backfire



David Lott

Diesel Innovations

Owner of Snow White worlds quickest Power Stroke 11. 55@119. 43.

 

[fest3er]

... I also heard ahead of time that DHRA was going to tech me with a fine tooth comb at the track, even thou I have passed tech at NHRA races all year long. KTACUMMINS or Brian Block assured me this would not happen, and I think he would have tried to the best of his ability's to give everyone a fair shake. ...

This would not happen; it is not how we operate. But if, perchance, it did, I would remove the person responsible for it from the DHRA.



We wrote and published our rules in part because we want competitors to be able to build their vehicles knowing what is OK and what is not OK well in advance of any events. We provide a level field, where everyone plays according to the same rules. If we catch someone cheating (hiding forbidden items to gain an unfair advantage, for instance), that person is tossed out.



There is always risk in motorsports. It is human nature to use any means available to gain an advantage. It is our job, as custodians of DHRA, to produce rules that adequately manage the risk, to reasonably move unfair advantages into the realm of 'cheating', and to assure vendors, manufacturers, fans and competitors that competitions will be keen and victories will be earned, not 'bought'. The rules will always be applied as evenly and fairly as is humanly possible.



If a vehicle meets all 41 or so requirements specified in the Top Diesel section of the rule book, it would be permitted to race in Top Diesel. If it meets the more than 32 requirements in the E/T bracket section, it would be permitted to race in the brackets. Any personal opinions we may have of anyone stop at the rule book.



Neal

 

[COMP461]

not that there is any way to cheat , but I'm sure that all 41 areas of the rules would have been looked at with a magnifing glass on my truck, if you look hard enough you will find somthing wrong on any race car , even a pros .

 

[fest3er]

... Never put complete blind faith & loyalty into a company who has both a CEO and a CIO on the payroll yet whose corporate office is a dude's house. Besides, without a COO they're a ship without a captain. [/list] ...

Stumpy,



I, at the least, do not disagree with most of what you said. However, I must take umbrage at the bit quoted above.



First, one should never place complete and blind faith in anything, even religion. Faith and loyalty are fine traits, but must always be tempered with knowledge and reason. And this is commutative. Knowledge and reason are great things to have, but one must have faith and exhibit loyalty to make the best use of them.



Second, the corporate office is not my house. I only *wish* I had that much room.



Lastly, I am not a 'dude'. I am a washed-up, has-been hippie wanna-be. Get it right!



N

 

[Timbeaux38]

Why would the DHRA look at your truck with a magnifying glass? it was hot and I'm sure they would have had better things to do. Besides, it would be tough to tech your truck with all of the event's attendants swooning over it... . :-laf

 

[fest3er]

not that there is any way to cheat , but I'm sure that all 41 areas of the rules would have been looked at with a magnifing glass on my truck, if you look hard enough you will find somthing wrong on any race car , even a pros .

That same magnifying glass would be used on all vehicles.



N

 

[Twisted Shifter]

The bottom line is that I think we all want the same thing. The problem is that some people’s egos have taken control of the situation. We have people on both sides of the fence that really need to take a step back and look in the mirror.



I can say this as fact because it is my real life experience. I have been to my local track and I have talked to other DHRA members from FL on the phone. Not one of them had a very positive thing to say about DHRA. Since I really want to race, I went looking for another organization, I found the NHRDA. I already had a bad taste in my mouth from all the negative feedback from DHRA members when I posted about Moroso is a NHRA track ,,,,,,“sign me up for the NHRDA” in the competition forums. One of the great leaders from DHRA proceeded to go off on me about how Moroso ran the DHRA program. Great tactic for recruitment! For that one comment I will never join the DHRA and it explains why the local track is looking at you Eric and asking WHY do you only have 6 trucks showing for an event.



So I guess what I am trying to say with all this rambling is…….



Get you heads out of your 5th point of contact and start being positive influences on the sport. Its not about what group is better, its about DIESEL RACING and PULLING! The sooner you boneheads figure that out the better off we will ALL be.



I for one want to go racing and will do everything in my power to promote the sport. So shut up go out to your truck do some double secret squirrel stuff to you engine and lets race!





Twisted Shifter

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Me.

(insert big here)

And your doing a damn good job of it too, I might add...

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Take the blinders off there are many many ways to promote this sport that do not have anything to do with any diesel organization or diesel race.

Each one of you can be an ambassador to diesel racing everywhere you go.

Just make sure you don't tell any tree huggers about all the black smoke though as that could backfire



David Lott

Diesel Innovations

Owner of Snow White worlds quickest Power Stroke 11. 55@119. 43.

First off, it was good to meet you at IRP. Another person that I gained respect for as you had time to talk/share your knowledge.



I feel that the blinders are still on but am not sure of the way the promotion of the sport needs to be. How do you see the future of the sport, and the direction its going?

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Hey now!! Lets not forget you live in the sticks!! A VFD is running the pull, DHRA is sanctioning the Diesel classes. We have had a running display ad in Farm and Dairy, Farm World. Thats where the masses go to find 6 state pulls.



The VFD has ads on 4 radio stations right now, they call it the "Thunderpull" (They came up with it, not DHRA. )

Plus ads in the Area Shopper, Tri County news, full color flyers posted around etc, etc.



And yes, there obviously is a limit to money that can be spent on advertising.







The internet and TDR has probably done more to promote "Diesel" than any of us. (Diesel owners)

Without TDR, the competitors would never have met each other.

I know I never would have seen that old picture of Dave Mitchell with the turnout stacks billowing clouds of smoke, would never have met the GLTDR, the west coasters, etc.



And I truly believe, the more orginizations running Diesel competitions, the better. I don't know of anyone that thinks there should be just one, or two.



It has been a large volume of individual efforts, that have got us where we are now. And maybe the normal Diesel guy won't like the attention all of us have brought onto them?

I only live about an hour from you ( depending on how fast I drive) and havent heard anything in my area about it. I have been doing the best to tell those people I know about it. There are 2 radio stations here that would do good in promoting it and would generate some interest I believe. Jefferson county Fairground just had the BIR RIGs there and they alway generate a thousand or so ( guessing)



I guess where I wanted this thread to go is... . IMO its the grass roots people that got this all started. I also believe it will be the grass roots people that keep it going. Like the announcer for TiM last year, sorry, dont remember his name, but he was the down home country style that made everyone feel at home. At least I felt so.



Eric has done a great job , from what I see in promoting the diesel motorsports. I was surprised to see the threads on getting hotel discounts and slicks from those involved. It shows me that behind the scenes, things are still turning. Most of us here dont see that if its not posted.



I guess its more of a " where do we go from here " attitude that I am inquiring about. This isn't about who's better than who, as some want it to

be, its more of how do we generate more interst for the sport.



Ideas/Suggestions welcome.

 

[Sled Puller]

Yes, but that hour gets you right into "Deliverance" back country! I honestly didn't think you guys had radio reception up there.



I think their advertising concentrated more on Erie, Youngstown, Pittsburgh. You must be on the edge.



I think you are right about the grassroots thing.



I also think dragracing pick ups of any sort is just a novelty that will wear off. Sled pulling trucks, will last forever, because its what trucks do. But I am biased, of course. :-laf

 

[Dl5treez]

First, one should never place complete and blind faith in anything, even religion. Faith and loyalty are fine traits, but must always be tempered with knowledge and reason. And this is commutative. Knowledge and reason are great things to have, but one must have faith and exhibit loyalty to make the best use of them.

There's the Fest I know!

Second, the corporate office is not my house. I only *wish* I had that much room.

Just tryin' to give you an upgrade.

Lastly, I am not a 'dude'. I am a washed-up, has-been hippie wanna-be. Get it right!

I humbly issue to you my sincere apologies... . there will a piece offering of hemp blankets, incense, and Earth, Moon & Fire vinyls headed out Next Day Air. And I promise I'll only refer to you as "Old Hippie" from now on. :-laf



You know I've been looking for a name for the truck... .completely forgot about Stumpy. THANKS!

 

[DHRA]

Greg,

That road is a two-way. You do nothing but make every effort to degrade or disrespect DHRA. And when you aren't doing that you are jabbing me as a driver or making comments that I shouldn't race and work for DHRA. Then you want me to invite you as an exhibition vehicle? Your out of your mind. If Dr. Barry Sadler would like to exhibition his vehicle I would love to have him and it, but you have buried yourself with me. I have no respect for you at all. So continue to come up with your conspiracy theories, they are false. I don't see how you can say all the crap you say and I am not allowed to not like you because of it, doesn't make any damn sense to me.



Twisted,

bro I'm sorry for that. I remember saying that and was offended that someone would even suggest what you did. The races at Moroso are their races using the DHRA rulebook, not DHRA races at Moroso. DHRA functions as a rulebook only in that situation. The member track program is designed for the track's to do their own promotion. We are working hard to assist them though. We have taken the time to list previous members in Florida, called several diesel shops in the area for support for them, and are still scratching our heads about what to do. We need help from the members in the area to spread the word. That series is can be tailor made however you want it. Once again I apologize for ******* on your post.

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Yes, but that hour gets you right into "Deliverance" back country! I honestly didn't think you guys had radio reception up there.



I think their advertising concentrated more on Erie, Youngstown, Pittsburgh. You must be on the edge.



I think you are right about the grassroots thing.



I also think dragracing pick ups of any sort is just a novelty that will wear off. Sled pulling trucks, will last forever, because its what trucks do. But I am biased, of course. :-laf

HILLJACK COUNTRY ... get it right ! :-laf



I concur about the drag racing, I am biased too !



In this area the truck pull thing I believe is big. People look for something to do on a Friday- Saturday nite. Staying home and tanning possum skins gets old after a while... :-laf

 

[Twisted Shifter]

All I want is to promote the sport. I for one really don’t care if I am a member of XYZ, I just want to race and have fun with a great bunch of guys. I by no means think I am the PR god but I think I can give the sport a shot in the butt locally. I have already been talking to a few people and I think I/we can make this happen. It’s nothing against DHRA or Eric as a person. I would hope that Eric could respect that. I am also a hardheaded ex-Army guy, and that’s why I continue a mission until completion.



I would really like to see the day that we are all one big happy family again……



SO I WANT TO START MY OWN



D Diesel

H Hot

R Rod

D Drag racing

A Association

 

[Teamropin983]

First off, it was good to meet you at IRP. Another person that I gained respect for as you had time to talk/share your knowledge.



I feel that the blinders are still on but am not sure of the way the promotion of the sport needs to be. How do you see the future of the sport, and the direction its going?

Thanks it was good meeting you too.

The diesel craze is growing and will grow no matter what. It's how quick and what direction it takes that matters to us. You've heard the term "Life is what you make it" this is no different than any thing else you do in life.

If you feel passionate enough about something others will see and feel it when you talk about it. At that point is where you will make the biggest difference to that person,you have the ability to sway them one way or the other. I have been able to convert many a gasoline owner to diesel by just having a good old heart to heart with them. I don't consider myself a sales person but I can sale just about anything I believe in, each and everyone of you have the same ability built in whether you know it or not.

I am a Ford boy through and through but I really enjoy time over here simply for the enthusiasm you guy share about diesels.

So it's really up to each individual to promote the sport they love whether it be drag racing or sled pulling as long as it involves a diesel. A gasoline gear head cares about performance period just convince them to dare to be different. Remember the paramid schemes that work so well in sales they will also work for the diesel sport one happy convert tells another and so on and so on.

The sport is what you make it.



David

 

[COMP461]

Greg,

That road is a two-way. You do nothing but make every effort to degrade or disrespect DHRA. And when you aren't doing that you are jabbing me as a driver or making comments that I shouldn't race and work for DHRA. Then you want me to invite you as an exhibition vehicle? Your out of your mind. If Dr. Barry Sadler would like to exhibition his vehicle I would love to have him and it, but you have buried yourself with me. I have no respect for you at all. So continue to come up with your conspiracy theories, they are false. I don't see how you can say all the crap you say and I am not allowed to not like you because of it, doesn't make any damn sense to me.



.

Perfect , , just the example of what I am talking about , it’s your personal feelings and not what would have been best for the DHRA, my problem is not with DHRA but some personnel in its leadership, and you have in public hit the nail on the head.



You wanted to be top dog at your event, and didn’t want anyone else there to take away that spot, you were confident, oh so you thought that you could have out run Scott Benz, but as to having the undisputed worlds quickest truck, one most people would have been drawn to because of the MOPAR backing, how ever small it might be, and its appeal as a pick up, was total out of the question. You had seen the professional way we present our self’s in public. Pro uniforms, provided by MOPAR, and the hand out we had printed would have been nice for the fans, but this might have over shadowed you deal.



Your personal feelings were in play, and when the rumors of unfair treatment, in tech , and I know for a fact that none of the pro diesel were even teched , was brought to the attention of a senior tech official , I am sure it made it to a level where a phone call would have squelched it . You called and offered money, to others to just show up, these people like me would not normally accept it, and they still haven’t gotten a check. You pushed a lot of us away, some of them former division directors of DHRA. Because of your dealings, the Denver event will never be a DHRA deal, and that was in the hands of some one who could have easily made that happen, remember for every person that speaks the truth in open , there are five behind the scenes that choose to be less forward.



I to know people that own tracks, they use to run comp, and they have never heard of the DHRA, and their track as being a member track. Houston to be exact. Your personal vendetta against people that have voices some apparent concerns is tearing DHRA apart. An organization is not the leadership to do with as you please, but it belongs to the members, and the people at the top are stewards of the organization. Unless by chance you are only using DHRA as a front, to be a promoter, and do this for profit.



I have a great Ideal for a diesel points system, and several people are working on it now. This could have been DHRA, but it will go the NHRDA because of their openness, and their quest to do what is right for the racers. This points system will allow you to run any where, any time and earn points, and the points champion could earn as much a $ 10,000. You don’t think non diesel guys bracketing racing across the good old USA want take notice and run a diesel in their normal bracket racing, to earn points in another organization at the same time.



Finally to all you that I some times open my mouth and offend , this is just me , I am a former labor union president , and still active in union politics , I speak my mind and don’t set back and grumble and gossip. If it’s broke tell someone, if its worth talking about then tell every one .

 

[Amish Elegance]

Quote: "it will go the NHRDA because of their openness"



http://turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134295



Sounds open and inviting to me ...



Every one is proud of the work they've done and the organizations they're a part of. As far as I can tell, the founders of both diesel racing organizations are both racers, or participants in there respecive organizations. We'd never let em live it down if they weren't.



While it is apparent that both organizations are growing and doing all they can for the sport, they are still run by humans with feelings, emotion, and pride in the work that they do. Sometimes this gets the best of people. If both organizations had huge PR departments with the job of massaging every public statement issued, this organizational competition would be a whole lot more healthy. (in the public eyes anyway) But for now we dont.



Greg, while no one can argue that you've brought a large spotlight on diesel racing; some may say you've centered the light on yourself. (and are dancing naked in it Oo. ) You've got some innovative ideas that push the limits of creative thinking in the field. Thats great man, but if you want us everyday diesel heads to stand behind you as a poster boy, you cant act as though we're just a stepping stone for you. The way you talk about the "little diesel events" really are offensive to those who work so hard to put them together, attend and participate in them. Keep this up and Id guess its only a matter of time before you step on NHRDA's toes for all the hard work they're doing too.



Sorry for the long post.

 

[DavidTD]

I really hate to see all of this bickering. :-{}



Ok folks, lets look at this from a different approach.



Sport Compacts had no racing organization to support their style of racing. NOPI (Number One Parts Inc) approached NHRA about starting a class within NHRA. They were turned away. NOPI then sought assistance from NHRA to become an alternative sanctioning body through NHRA, wrote rules, developed races and started the NDRA which created a huge following to which these racers enjoyed TV coverage, huge corporate sponsorships, etc. NHRA saw the money being made and decided they now wanted to get a piece of the pie and started the NHRA Sport Compact series.



Aside from the last sentence, that is exactly how DHRA was formed.



Let DHRA, NHRdA, or any other diesel organization develop like NDRA and we might find NHRA trying to control or take away what MANY have worked very hard to accomplish. I am speaking the truth here and NHRA doesn't care about you, me, or anyone. They care about $$$ and what is best for them.



If you don't like Eric fine. Are you going to let THAT keep you from racing with DHRA? If so, you will find other reasons to get ****** off at another organization and not race there either. We all can't have what we want in every case. The job of DHRA is to create an equal foundation for fair, safe competition and to attract the attention of corporate entities to HOPEFULLY support the sport and racers via sponsorship and publicity. DHRA has done the best job of this PERIOD.



Many of you are admitted "new" to diesel performance or diesel racing. Years ago, especially with the growth of the internet, racers have tried to compare their achievements with others across the country. This was impossible because there were no rules. There was no way to compare ride for ride, time for time because we had to depend on the achiever to tell us the truth which in many cases did not happen. So how do you fix it? Form a racing organization, write rules, and race. DHRA did that. How many asked if Fletcher's 10. 13 was done with N2O? How many have asked what he weighs? Has anyone gotten a straight answer. And even if you get it, how do you know he is being honest? I'm not calling Bill a liar, I am simply stating that NHRA rules allow any weight and N2O. So in this case any racer can tell you what they want you to know. People ask these questions so they can COMPARE his achievements to their own.



NHRda says they follow NHRA rules. Since NHRA has no diesel class, that means you follow GENERIC NHRA rules. No weight standards, you can run N2O or whatever you want because all they will care about basically is shirt, shoes, long pants, helmet if you run under 14. 0 and cage if you run under 12. 0, and the appropriate license/certification if you are that fast, until they don't want you, then they will pick the rules apart to exclude you. Example, NHRA had a crankshaft rule that would have eliminated ANY solid front axle 4x4 truck from their tracks. Luckily for us, those same NHRA tech inspectors never enforced the rule (in most cases because they didn't know the rules enough to realize their WAS a rule). When DHRA went about writing their rules, every rule from NHRA was looked at and modified to fit OUR style of racing. The crankshaft rule was one of them. NHRA signed off on the rules. When Rhonda was challenged in the NW, I remember all of the banter about WHO fixed it. Let me tell you this. Without the DHRA rule book having increased the height limit to which NHRA agreed to, Rhonda would have either had a long fight to get the rule changed or would have watched the racing from the stands. I don't care what anyone says, NHRA will not just change rules due to a racers complaint. This is just one example of WHY we need our own organization for diesel racing.



If you want to race NHRdA, race it. You don't need to join them to do what they are doing. Any of us can create a club, get some sponsors to put up a year end prize, and race with our friends. I've been doing it for 4 years now. But understand you can do exactly that with DHRA at your own track and for those that don't like DHRA officials, you won't have to see them or talk to them. The benefit is you have the support of a diesel organization, recognized by the NHRA as an alternative sanctioning body and NHRA APPROVED the rules they run under to be LEGAL on their tracks. Just because you can't get a person in NHRA to say they know Eric or DHRA exist simply means you obviously aren't talking the right person. I can tell you that two years ago, NHRA allowed us to race sub 12 seconds on a NHRA OWNED track without a cage because it was a DHRA race and DHRA said it was ok. The track manager said " I don't care what DHRA says, I say no". I called Eric, Eric called someone, and the track manager got a phone call from NHRA and we ran. If that isn't proof of NHRA knowing who DHRA is, then I can't give a better example.



But let me tell you this for sure. NHRdA is NOT a sanctioned organization from NHRA. They are also not the 1st diesel drag racing organization. If you think NHRA is our friend here you are also being mislead. As soon as NHRA decides there is enough interest in diesel racing, THEY will try their best to stomp DHRA, NHRdA, and any other competitor out. Because of what I saw first hand with NDRA, and speaking with NDRA officials on how they were treated by NHRA in the beginning all the way to the creation of the NHRA Sport Compact Series, I will not support NHRA for diesels unless that is all thats left, and even then I still may not.



And if you want to discuss who will bring in the sponsorship dollars when it does take off and who will get them TV deals, ask the import racers... It's not NHRA.



As you can tell by the length of this, I have great passion for this sport and seeing it survive and what I have been reading from mostly those against DHRA is really getting to me. And for those that are mad at DHRA, maybe you should really look at what you are upset about. I've been upset with DHRA too and everytime I have picked up the phone, called Eric and resolved the issue. That doesn't mean I got my way either. It just means we talked about it like adults, and I was either granted my request, or explained why he would not. Isn't that what adults do?



And before those of NHRdA get upset with me, I think it's great you started your own organization to promote diesel motorsports. I'm glad you are enjoying the time and friendships you develop in your quest. Just please leave the DHRA slamming out of it.