Competition Promotion of Diesel Motorsports

[Turbo Thom]

I ve read all the post and the only thing I don't quit understand is Rhondas question about "what does the weight matter". Spray or no spray. For your bracket racin you're right, but the head's up pro street boys, that's ET and MPH. Or did I misunderstand?

Things are looking up. Good post Neal. Oh yeah, I can build your loops for ya if you need.



. . Preston. .

 

[COMP461]

All sides have deep feelings , the future is fast approaching . NHRA is expanding to diesels , and nothing will stop that now , they have seen the snow balling popularity of diesels , and the demographics that this brings. Good …. Bad , who can foresee the future.

NHRA senior officials on conferences calls with myself and others including Fletch have expressed an keen interest in classes from Super Stock to Competition eliminator , this will give all concerned a place to run and gain exposure need to acquire the sponsorship deals like Scott and Dustin now enjoy , and I am on the verge of inking. You can still run the smaller races , and these organization will benefit from the money infusion in to these classes. I would have likes and still want the Pro Street Class to be across the board , running DHRA ,NHRDA and also NHRA and possible IHRA in the last to they would run as Super Stocker or possible competition Eliminator . we all know where the Pro Street class is going , it will require big money to compete. If still around the direction PRO STREET is going in is a pure propose built race vehicle.



The DHRA is a privately owned for profit business , as stated by one of its owners , Good …. Bad , I don’t know . this group needs to take a good long look within it self . is it going to be a for profit event promoter , or a organization for the races and the fans .



NHRDA is a recognized group with in NHRA that just wants to race , and has a lot of good Ideals , their organization , in its infancy . Good …. Bad time will tell.



Now as the urging of people like David Dunbar , and others we want to try and fix this. There are a lot of hurt feelings and people that have perceived they have been wronged . my self included . I myself will continue to run NHRA in the super categories , and with the new power plant run Top Sportsman where a 7. 95 minimum index is in place . Scott and Dustin Benz , and myself have seen increased momentum of this snow ball , and popularity among the fans .

NHRA is where the maximum amount of exposure is available for now , the attention it gets for the entire diesel industry benefits us all . There is far more at stake then just diesel racing , but a future of this nation energy policy is in play as we speak. Bio Diesel , and other renewable energy sources are pitted against the little hybrid electric vehicles as the answer to our Nations Future energy needs.

Great things could come from the NHRA’s interest , we should try and shape the outcome of these changes . Standing by and doing nothing or ignoring the rising tide will leave you no voice in the arrangements and class rules . the diesel only organization will become like the Good Guy series , a very necessary component of the big picture.









so here we are , now what do we do????

 

[R-N-R]

Agreeing to disagree seems like a good place to start.

 

[DavidTD]

I'm pretty much done with this too. I think Scott said it best, go out and race. Support the sport, the racers, and their accomplishments.



I personally am proud of everyone that has spent the time and energy, not to mention dollars to grow the sport and get out there and race. Keep it up. I am looking forward to seeing or meeting every racer/fan that is planning on attending Atlanta, and if I can do anything to make your visit here better, just ask. I haven't a clue as to who will be fastest, but here is to a safe ride on their way to lowering the current Pro Street record of 10. 77.



Greg, I hope you can convince Doc to let you come out. The fans and I would love to see some side by side action between you and Keating. I know Scott can't make it here with the Lucas Dragster, so I am steadily working on my John Deere 770 to give Eric something to chase.



And while my wife Penny can't nail Rhonda's . 02's on the tree, she will be bracketing in my truck to keep the guys honest. :-laf

 

[Rhondasway]

Preston and Neal, I understand that it is frustrating for someone who is trying to have the quickest truck out there. There can only be one at a time. However, penalizing the guys who know how to make a fast truck just doesn't seem right. If there are guys who want to compete that way, fine, but don't expect everyone to participate.

Being the fastest comes down to some definable factors: power, weight, transfer of power, and aerodynamics. Let's take my truck for example. There's no question it's the quickest 4x4 around here. Other guys trying to keep up with it keep saying, "... but my truck weighs more. " Is that my problem? No. If you're convinced my truck is so much lighter and it means so much to you, put yours on a diet.

Do I think Fletcher (or Comp, or anyone) should have to add weight or de-tune their suspension so I could have a better chance of beating them? No. They have faster trucks and that's just that. If I want to compete with them, it's up to me to build a truck that can.

Again, the DHRA can and should do whatever it wants for its customer base. Just understand that some of us will follow our own paths.



Sheddy, thanks for imparting your wisdom on this thread; you must have some extra time when you're not winning events, eh? I don't think there will be a "he said" side regarding my post, as I have to believe Eric will show some integrity here. I do not intend to say any more about it; it's "water under the bridge... "

 

[Teamropin983]

Let me just say that in any professional heads up drag racing class there are minimum weights allowed for the competitors. Any body can stuff a big engine in a lightweight vehicle and go fast 1st rule of hot rodding 101.

When everyone weighs the same for a particular class it makes the builder get real creative and that is what makes heads up racing as competitive and fun as it is.



David

 

[COMP461]

Doc is not the reason I’m not out racing ,far from it . The reason it’s a cross between my being a lieutenant on a DOD fire department , my own business ventures , and my involvement in a competition eliminator engine R&D program for G. M. PERFORMANCE PARTS .



Doc has provided the funds for me to complete one of the two engine programs , in the next few weeks , the pistons will be back from the coaters Wednesday the more advanced program is still a few months away from completion , this engine should be the most advanced Cummins drag racing power plant yet built. Having more in common with a Pro Stock engine then a diesel



I could have been at either of the two races if good old uncle Sam had not chosen that week to play games . That’s all I can say about that . The plan was to put Mat Thomas of S&T water jet in the seat as driver , for that weekend , Mat runs Pro Mod , and is an accomplished wheelman . but after all the late nights and with out any seat time , it was decided to go with safety first. The new motor was so close to being completed , and the rush to put a reblocked motor back in the truck would have taken up valuable time and resources that could be applied to the new program. I am no longer satisfied with a 8 second truck but have pulled out the stops to run in the 7 second range. This is very possible , and will be accomplished as soon as possible, but this takes testing and track time .



At one time I only looked at this ride as something to get me by , until the next comp ride came along . Since then diesels have become my passion , and I have turned down a very competitive comp ride to stay with this project. I have had aspirations to run Pro Stock , and still hold a Pro Lic. But that is not as satisfying to me as the diesel deal.



I am confident that my future plains will be in a diesel. I have also turned down a offer to build a diesel dragster , one I like trucks , and two I told Scott I didn’t want to step on their toes . The math suggests the dragster could easily run in the 6 second range , but this would be a totally different deal, and involve a DURAMAX . I am sure that a Chevy is the future of diesel motorsports for me , as former deals are now waking up to diesel drag racing and they are looking for a old friend .

 

[Turbo Thom]

David... ... ..... That's what I was trying to say. A Lott said a lot. Thanks.



R-N-R... ... ... ... I agree. What was the point?



. . PT. .

 

[Fletcher]

Tlbaa

I agree, the Longhorns sprout their horns at around 6mo allowing more opportunity to rope them before hitting that risky 500 lb size, The corrientes are more agile however, the slower horn development shortens practice time. Remember, heelers always have two hind legs to lasso (unless you throw a three legged calf in to the arena) but, the header needs at lease four inches of horn to hit……

 

[msperos]

I thinks thy honorable goeduck harvesters goeduck nectar hath fermented. :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[R-N-R]

Putting our best soot forward!

One small and perhaps somewhat painful step in a positive direction, could be a giant leap forward for Diesel Motorsport Organizations co-existing peacefully.



DHRA - Diesel News Desk / Div 6 Slaughter



Thank you!

 

[Fletcher]

One small and perhaps somewhat painful step in a positive direction, could be a giant leap forward for Diesel Motorsport Organizations co-existing peacefully.



DHRA - Diesel News Desk / Div 6 Slaughter



Thank you!

Psychoanalysis “the understanding of modern day human behaviorism” and the four critical stages of teaming ( Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing) Enhancing cohesion “cognitive restructuring, turning negative aspects into positive situations" I'm washing my truck for the picture…yehaw… just kidding, that was a really nice of them...

 

[Teamropin983]

Psychoanalysis “the understanding of modern day human behaviorism” and the four critical stages of teaming ( Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing) Enhancing cohesion “cognitive restructuring, turning negative aspects into positive situations" I’m washing my truck for the picture…yehaw… just kidding, that was a really nice of them...

Somebody has to take the first step

Ya'll better learn to get along or a Furd will be passing you up :--)



David Lott

 

[sbentz]

Greg, I hope you can convince Doc to let you come out. The fans and I would love to see some side by side action between you and Keating. I know Scott can't make it here with the Lucas Dragster, so I am steadily working on my John Deere 770 to give Eric something to chase.

Heck, you never know where we show up for a fun time. Georgia peaches? May have to drop in. The women, not the fruit. Dustin is young and (somewhat) unnatached, maybe we should come down for a little "southern hospitality..... "

 

[sbentz]

Psychoanalysis “the understanding of modern day human behaviorism” and the four critical stages of teaming ( Forming, Storming, Norming and Performing) Enhancing cohesion “cognitive restructuring, turning negative aspects into positive situations" I’m washing my truck for the picture…yehaw… just kidding, that was a really nice of them...

Agreed, that was good. I have contemplated using the Cumminsracing.com site for similar promotions, but selfishly, I have not enough time (or intelligence) to keep up. Again, whoever SERVES the end user the best will win.





(OK, like paying for me to fly over to Hawaii for a exibition race..... C'mon, step it up, those guys know how to party! Maybe we could make biodiesel out of pineapples. I can smell it now..... )

 

[DavidTD]

Heck, you never know where we show up for a fun time. Georgia peaches? May have to drop in. The women, not the fruit. Dustin is young and (somewhat) unnatached, maybe we should come down for a little "southern hospitality..... "

Bring that bad boy down here and I will have the peaches here. (Just can't guarantee which kind) :-laf

 

[Turbo Thom]

David is right... ... ... ... ... ... They are in full bloom now. The only thing you have to remember Scott, even though peachs looks pretty all light red and yellow, they need to be washed first to get the peach fuzz off. Then they're good to eat.



That would be to much for y'all to come down here. Like Gary Scelzi. I bet he ain't ever seen a diesel dragster.



Too much.



. . Preston. .

 

[Fletcher]

David is right... ... ... ... ... ... They are in full bloom now. The only thing you have to remember Scott, even though peachs looks pretty all light red and yellow, they need to be washed first to get the peach fuzz off. Then they're good to eat.



That would be to much for y'all to come down here. Like Gary Selzie. I bet he ain't ever seen a diesel dragster.



Too much.



. . Preston. .

Our state's low tide, kelp eating, eye squirting, goeduck can eat a Georgia's peach and secrete pit dust on the sandy shore before you can even blink…

 

[sbentz]

Funny you mention Gary Scelzi, he was zipping throught the staging lanes in California last year on a scooter, and about lost it trying to spin around and come back to check out the dragster. He loved it.



Hmmm... Peaches or Oysters..... Georgia to Seattle, can't get any further apart... . After truck fest, we need to finish our final schedule.

 

[Turbo Thom]

That me be so, Fletcher, but the peach is so sweet and the juice of angles. Our peaches are very much on the effeminate side, and that's the way we like it. If you ever eat one Georgia peach, you will never go back to that corner of America you live in. Now tell me about the goeduck.



. . Preston. .