Thats odd, my EGT's dropped too, i cant imagine why yours wouldnt. Mine had real bad seperations on the side that i know where causing heated air leaks, i have since (Thanks to a tip from a fellow TDR member) riveted it together (Looks really cool too). Other then that, i dont know what the problem would be. Good luck and keep us posted.
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David, at our next meet on the 28th you will have a new one from me to try out. 
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I wish I had known this before, I would have given you one to test, before I sent one all the way out to PA to be tested.
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's, A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
#adI wish I had known this before, I would have given you one to test, before I sent one all the way out to PA to be tested.
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's, A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
Hey guys!! before you S/can your psychotti,do the rivets,shave some of the 1/2''flange off where it goes into rubber seal,install sheetmetal strap across box inside just before cone so at the other end filter is flush,you will now have some clearance between filter and housing,now drill about [10] 1/2''holes in housing now road test,you will be breathing much better and you won't have to throw the box away. good luck JDMJOE
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[This message has been edited by Joe (edited 04-19-2001). ]
Joe, I have turned wrenches for over 25 years to make my living, and for some reason I just cannot grasp what you are doing to modify the housing. The only thing I can pick up on with no problem is riveting the two side strips and the drilling of the holes. I am a little fuzzy on the trimming of the 1/2" part and the metal strip. Is there any way you could email me a picture or two? I am not very computer literate so I would not know how to post a picture on this thread. If you can help it would be appreciated.
David
David
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What is the intake noise you are talking about? My turbo is loud with just the RE-0880 and no Pschotty but I assume you are talking about the "cowl" noise that everyone talks about? Is it a different noise than the turbo?
When I took the boot off my stock airbox, I'd get a whoosh noise when I shifted so is this like the cowl noise?
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Mark Callahan
1998. 5 3500 4x4 24V 5spd, Geno's Muffler Kit, Chrome exhaust, Western Hauler Headache Rack, Chrome Rocker Panels, A-Pillar Mounted Boost ,EGT and Oil Temp Gauges, Rhino Linings sprayed in bed liner , CATZ lights, No Turbo Silencer Ring (Yeah Baby!)
What is the intake noise you are talking about? My turbo is loud with just the RE-0880 and no Pschotty but I assume you are talking about the "cowl" noise that everyone talks about? Is it a different noise than the turbo?
When I took the boot off my stock airbox, I'd get a whoosh noise when I shifted so is this like the cowl noise?
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Mark Callahan
1998. 5 3500 4x4 24V 5spd, Geno's Muffler Kit, Chrome exhaust, Western Hauler Headache Rack, Chrome Rocker Panels, A-Pillar Mounted Boost ,EGT and Oil Temp Gauges, Rhino Linings sprayed in bed liner , CATZ lights, No Turbo Silencer Ring (Yeah Baby!)
Have you ever listened to someone in the next room by putting your ear up to one of the air conditioning ducts? Because the duct connects the two rooms, it also carries noise from one to the other. The same is true when you cut a hole in your firewall to install the Psychotty. You have connected the ducting for your A/C unit to the inlet for your turbo, so more of the turbo noise is "piped" through into the cab via your A/C outlets. Based on the responses on this board, 90% to 95% of the folks like the effect. Without the Psychotty, I could hear the turbo spool up only when I passed or pulled a major hill. With it, I could hear minor variations as the cruise control attempts to maintain steady speed out on the freeway. Right now I'm running without the Pyschotty, mostly because I wanted the extra protection of the foam pre-filter, but I will probably need to either reinstall the Psychotty or add a heat sheild when the real summer heat hits, or I'll never get to 300 during a shutdown.
Hmmmm... . hmmm... with just the RE-0880, I can really hear the turbo working up and down. It doesn't take a hill either.
HC- the noises sound interesting but I'm kinda with you on the foam filter + a heat shield. I think the increased filtration is a good idea and the heat shield will take the heat away. Another thought I've had is that right next to the RE-0880 is the hole for the old airbox. It connects right into the front quarter panel where all the cold air is flowing right by. Perhaps with the heat shield more air will be sucked from that hole instead of from the engine b/c an area of lower pressure will be created around the filter. I haven't seen the heat shield though so I don't really know what it looks like.
I've still got my Todd T. Aluminum box so I'll hang onto it until I come a decision.
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Mark Callahan
1998. 5 3500 4x4 24V 5spd, Geno's Muffler Kit, Chrome exhaust, Western Hauler Headache Rack, Chrome Rocker Panels, A-Pillar Mounted Boost ,EGT and Oil Temp Gauges, Rhino Linings sprayed in bed liner , CATZ lights, No Turbo Silencer Ring (Yeah Baby!)
HC- the noises sound interesting but I'm kinda with you on the foam filter + a heat shield. I think the increased filtration is a good idea and the heat shield will take the heat away. Another thought I've had is that right next to the RE-0880 is the hole for the old airbox. It connects right into the front quarter panel where all the cold air is flowing right by. Perhaps with the heat shield more air will be sucked from that hole instead of from the engine b/c an area of lower pressure will be created around the filter. I haven't seen the heat shield though so I don't really know what it looks like.
I've still got my Todd T. Aluminum box so I'll hang onto it until I come a decision.
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Mark Callahan
1998. 5 3500 4x4 24V 5spd, Geno's Muffler Kit, Chrome exhaust, Western Hauler Headache Rack, Chrome Rocker Panels, A-Pillar Mounted Boost ,EGT and Oil Temp Gauges, Rhino Linings sprayed in bed liner , CATZ lights, No Turbo Silencer Ring (Yeah Baby!)
Joe, check this out for another idea.
ifflem has posted a great, almost free improvement for the stock air box. I finaly got up the nerve to cut a 4 1/2" hole in the cowl in the Phscotty location.
After cutting the cowl, I cut two, 2. 5" holes on the back side of the dirty side of the stock air box and using a jig saw connected the holes, making a slot about 2. 5 X 4" (I have to recheck if anyone is interested in the actual sizes). Dryer vent hose will conform to the air box opening and with a rubber gasket from a big truck trailer taillight assembly, it fits the cowl hole nicely.
Now, the challange is to find a stock type, pleated paper element that flows more air than the Fleetguard air filter I'm currently running.
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"95" 3500, 4WHD, 5 spd, 4. 10 LSD, Rancho 9000's PacBrake, Isspro EGT, 50lb. boost, TST #5, AFC kit 215HP injectors,no cat, muff
After cutting the cowl, I cut two, 2. 5" holes on the back side of the dirty side of the stock air box and using a jig saw connected the holes, making a slot about 2. 5 X 4" (I have to recheck if anyone is interested in the actual sizes). Dryer vent hose will conform to the air box opening and with a rubber gasket from a big truck trailer taillight assembly, it fits the cowl hole nicely.
Now, the challange is to find a stock type, pleated paper element that flows more air than the Fleetguard air filter I'm currently running.
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"95" 3500, 4WHD, 5 spd, 4. 10 LSD, Rancho 9000's PacBrake, Isspro EGT, 50lb. boost, TST #5, AFC kit 215HP injectors,no cat, muff
I thought about installing the Phscotty for quite a long time until I actually saw one first hand and was shocked by such poor quality for what I feel is too high a price. Now, after thinking further about an air cleaner solution, I doubt I'd try one, reguardless of the price. There has to be a better solution out there.
I've seen some big block GM trucks with what seems to be a better idea. They had a square air box roughly the same size and shape as our stockers, but with a round filter, somewhat smaller than a 0860 (hooks to a 3-3/4" tube), inside. So the question in my mind is why not make a squarish box, the same size as stock, with an 0860, or simular, inside. It would have almost double the filter area of the stocker and would give a heck of a lot more options for getting cool air to the engine than a 4. 5" hole in the cowl.
I've seen some big block GM trucks with what seems to be a better idea. They had a square air box roughly the same size and shape as our stockers, but with a round filter, somewhat smaller than a 0860 (hooks to a 3-3/4" tube), inside. So the question in my mind is why not make a squarish box, the same size as stock, with an 0860, or simular, inside. It would have almost double the filter area of the stocker and would give a heck of a lot more options for getting cool air to the engine than a 4. 5" hole in the cowl.
Bart, and all, the reason for the cowl induction is, because that is really the only Good place to get clean, cool air from.
with the mods to you stock box you are still stuck with a filter that doesnt flow as much air as the RE 0880, and most of them look like something you made at home. that is what spawned the idea, in my head to make them from aluminum, or you could use SS. but the facts are you need alot of clean air, not heated from the road surface, and something you can be proud of, to open your hood and show.
My goal is, to make these things cheap enough that those who want one can afford one, and with the benefit of being able to be proud of it and show it off to all...
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's,PowerMax3 adj. , A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
with the mods to you stock box you are still stuck with a filter that doesnt flow as much air as the RE 0880, and most of them look like something you made at home. that is what spawned the idea, in my head to make them from aluminum, or you could use SS. but the facts are you need alot of clean air, not heated from the road surface, and something you can be proud of, to open your hood and show.
My goal is, to make these things cheap enough that those who want one can afford one, and with the benefit of being able to be proud of it and show it off to all...
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's,PowerMax3 adj. , A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
Just recieved my Psycotty!
To add to what Todd said. The stock filter (or K&N) and airbox won't flow enough air. When I turned up the power (see sig. ) I could suck the filter minder to over 50% on a freshly cleaned K&N.
I have installed the Psycotty and as advertised my egts dropped at least 100 deg. wot. As for usual operation the temps have dropped 20-50 deg.
As for the noise. The HX40 and 880 filter alone added a lot of turbo noise so the addition of the Psycotty was barely detectable.
As for the quality, works for me. We can sit here all day and find fault with anything that is brought before us, but how many of you are deveolping new products?
I comend Todd for his efforts, but don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. And for your information Scott can't even walk right now do to some poor excuse for a surgeon.
I am not affiliated with toys4u and do not stand to gain from the sucess of the said airbox. Scott is just a friend as are many of you fellow members.
We are all to quick to bash in my opinion.
And that will destroy our brotherhood.
Brant#ad
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01 Excab 4x4 Driftwood, agate interior, Potect grilleguard, DeeZee FX black, Weatherguard crossbox, Montezuma tool box, Honda air compressor, fold down g/n hitch.
Geno's pillar mount combo guage, HX40, Jardine Exhaust, 5"
chrom tip, PE EZ, Hot PE box, DDIIs, Dunrite TC, Transgo shift kit, and K&N RE-0880 (soon to add Psycotty).
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To add to what Todd said. The stock filter (or K&N) and airbox won't flow enough air. When I turned up the power (see sig. ) I could suck the filter minder to over 50% on a freshly cleaned K&N.
I have installed the Psycotty and as advertised my egts dropped at least 100 deg. wot. As for usual operation the temps have dropped 20-50 deg.
As for the noise. The HX40 and 880 filter alone added a lot of turbo noise so the addition of the Psycotty was barely detectable.
As for the quality, works for me. We can sit here all day and find fault with anything that is brought before us, but how many of you are deveolping new products?
I comend Todd for his efforts, but don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. And for your information Scott can't even walk right now do to some poor excuse for a surgeon.
I am not affiliated with toys4u and do not stand to gain from the sucess of the said airbox. Scott is just a friend as are many of you fellow members.
We are all to quick to bash in my opinion.
And that will destroy our brotherhood.
Brant
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01 Excab 4x4 Driftwood, agate interior, Potect grilleguard, DeeZee FX black, Weatherguard crossbox, Montezuma tool box, Honda air compressor, fold down g/n hitch.
Geno's pillar mount combo guage, HX40, Jardine Exhaust, 5"
chrom tip, PE EZ, Hot PE box, DDIIs, Dunrite TC, Transgo shift kit, and K&N RE-0880 (soon to add Psycotty).
Performance Diesel Dealer
bpete, I agree, good post. I just had the turbo boot off for a oil change 2 weeks ago. No dust on the turbo blades. Mine was installed in late January and the roads are plenty dusty with all the remnants of winter storms still present. Sorry to hear that Scott is in bad health, hope he is on the road to recovery soon.
Scott W.
White 2001. 5 3500 ETH/DEE 4X4 Quad cab SLT,tow package and camper prep,Husky liners front and rear,DiPricol pyro,boost and oil temp gauges,SPA fuel pressure and temp. gauge,Edge EZ,Psychotty air,Bully Dog stage III injectors,ATS 3 piece manifold,HX40 turbo,4" BD exhaust,4" BD E-brake,McLeod clutch,Mallory 4150 lift pump,Mag-Hytec rear,Go-Rhino grill guard,Lund bug shield,PM tractor utility back up lights,Penda bed mat and blow by bottle is bye bye !!! I love the smell of diesel in the morning, it reminds me of... . VICTORY !!!
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White 2001. 5 3500 ETH/DEE 4X4 Quad cab SLT,tow package and camper prep,Husky liners front and rear,DiPricol pyro,boost and oil temp gauges,SPA fuel pressure and temp. gauge,Edge EZ,Psychotty air,Bully Dog stage III injectors,ATS 3 piece manifold,HX40 turbo,4" BD exhaust,4" BD E-brake,McLeod clutch,Mallory 4150 lift pump,Mag-Hytec rear,Go-Rhino grill guard,Lund bug shield,PM tractor utility back up lights,Penda bed mat and blow by bottle is bye bye !!! I love the smell of diesel in the morning, it reminds me of... . VICTORY !!!
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I like bpete have no affiliation with toys4u, other than being a very satified customer. I have found that Scott is one fine person to do business with and his Product does what he says it does. I also knwo it isn't hard to invent the wheel after someone else has. My hats off to Scott and hopefully he'll be healed up soon and back among us.
Here is some testing I did last summer...
EGT test using different air filters and configurations hauling cattle up a 5 ½ % grade 5. 6 miles long, two cows at a time. Tried to visually load cows so that the weight was the same. Outside temp (o/s) taken off in cab gauge. Cruise set at 65 MPH in 5th. EGT reading at the top of grade.
W/ stock housing and new paper filter (Fram) o/s 74 Deg EGT 1200+
with about one mile left had to kick the cruise off, down shift to 4th, and slow to 60 MPH to keep the EGT under 1200.
W/ stock housing and K&N filter o/s 78 Deg EGT 1100
W/ Open RE-0880 K&N filter o/s 80 Deg EGT 1050
W/ Psycotty housing w/ insulation tape and RE-0880 filter o/s 84 Deg EGT 900 - 925
There is also a big seat of the pants difference between the paper filter and a K&N in the Psychotty housing. The engine just feels freer to run with the bigger filter and the Psychotty housing.
~ Dee Rawson
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97 2500 Club 4X4 3. 54, Forrest Green/Driftwood, LSD 5 speed, & Psychotty Air System, TST #11, 370 HP injectors, timing at 16 deg. , 16CM2 housing, AFC spring kit, TST EGT gauge & 0-60 boost gauge in A Pillar, Cat-be-gone, 4" Dynomax Bullet muffler, Crome 4" turn down, 2 Electric Fans, One inside/ One out front, AmsOil Through out, Geno's trans filter kit, AmsOil Bypass system, Lund Winter front, Leer Cab Level Shell Driftwood , 255/85R16, South Bend's Hypo Clutch*NRA/USPSA member and proud of it*
[This message has been edited by drawson (edited 04-28-2001). ]
Here is some testing I did last summer...
EGT test using different air filters and configurations hauling cattle up a 5 ½ % grade 5. 6 miles long, two cows at a time. Tried to visually load cows so that the weight was the same. Outside temp (o/s) taken off in cab gauge. Cruise set at 65 MPH in 5th. EGT reading at the top of grade.
W/ stock housing and new paper filter (Fram) o/s 74 Deg EGT 1200+
with about one mile left had to kick the cruise off, down shift to 4th, and slow to 60 MPH to keep the EGT under 1200.
W/ stock housing and K&N filter o/s 78 Deg EGT 1100
W/ Open RE-0880 K&N filter o/s 80 Deg EGT 1050
W/ Psycotty housing w/ insulation tape and RE-0880 filter o/s 84 Deg EGT 900 - 925
There is also a big seat of the pants difference between the paper filter and a K&N in the Psychotty housing. The engine just feels freer to run with the bigger filter and the Psychotty housing.
~ Dee Rawson
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EAT'M UP
97 2500 Club 4X4 3. 54, Forrest Green/Driftwood, LSD 5 speed, & Psychotty Air System, TST #11, 370 HP injectors, timing at 16 deg. , 16CM2 housing, AFC spring kit, TST EGT gauge & 0-60 boost gauge in A Pillar, Cat-be-gone, 4" Dynomax Bullet muffler, Crome 4" turn down, 2 Electric Fans, One inside/ One out front, AmsOil Through out, Geno's trans filter kit, AmsOil Bypass system, Lund Winter front, Leer Cab Level Shell Driftwood , 255/85R16, South Bend's Hypo Clutch*NRA/USPSA member and proud of it*
[This message has been edited by drawson (edited 04-28-2001). ]
first, I am not claiming to have re invented the wheel, i simply made one from aluminum because it looks better, and after talking with others found they had problems with the psychotty system ranging from sucking it closed to cracking and seams failing. the other most common complaint was noise, so i overcame that too.
Here is some testing "I" did this past weekend;
(90*F ambient temperature with tests conducted traveling in 2 opposite directions. )
65MPH @4PSI OF BOOST 575-600*F
70MPH @6-7PSI OF BOOST 600-625*F
75MPH @8PSI OF BOOST 675-700*F
DYNO JET 248(tests conducted; first 2 runs with filter open laying on fender, second 2 with filter and aluminum tube installed)
NOTE:temperatures DID NOT EXCEED 1050*F on any run.
RUN 1. 311. 8HP 675. 0 FT-LBS
RUN 2. 308. 5HP 675. 7 FT-LBS
RUN 3. 309. 7HP 676. 6 FT-LBS
RUN 4 310. 0HP 673. 8 FT-LBS
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's,PowerMax3 adj. , A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
[This message has been edited by Todd T (edited 04-30-2001). ]
Here is some testing "I" did this past weekend;
(90*F ambient temperature with tests conducted traveling in 2 opposite directions. )
65MPH @4PSI OF BOOST 575-600*F
70MPH @6-7PSI OF BOOST 600-625*F
75MPH @8PSI OF BOOST 675-700*F
DYNO JET 248(tests conducted; first 2 runs with filter open laying on fender, second 2 with filter and aluminum tube installed)
NOTE:temperatures DID NOT EXCEED 1050*F on any run.
RUN 1. 311. 8HP 675. 0 FT-LBS
RUN 2. 308. 5HP 675. 7 FT-LBS
RUN 3. 309. 7HP 676. 6 FT-LBS
RUN 4 310. 0HP 673. 8 FT-LBS
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Todd,
2001 Q-cab SB 4x4 5spd 3. 55's,PowerMax3 adj. , A pillar Boost/EGT,4" turboback exhaust,custom built aluminum airbox W/K&N-RE0860 through the cowl, and more to come...
[This message has been edited by Todd T (edited 04-30-2001). ]
I just installed a psycotty on my 98 12v with the stock turbo, less silencer ring, and a TST #11 camplate. I don't see what all the fuss is about with noise. This setup makes less noise than an HX40 and an 880 filter. I think it sounds awsome in the cab. Only drove it home so I don't have any numbers to publish.
No I did not try the stock air box without the tube. I wanted the cone filter.
Todd, I will repeat what I stated previously. "I commend you on your efforts" (to make a good product better). But I don't feel that you had the right to bash Scott because he was not interested in you're idea/product. If you box takes off then it is his loss. It was his choice to make, he made it, live with it. Don't beat him up for it, he has done you no harm.
Best wishes
Brant
No I did not try the stock air box without the tube. I wanted the cone filter.
Todd, I will repeat what I stated previously. "I commend you on your efforts" (to make a good product better). But I don't feel that you had the right to bash Scott because he was not interested in you're idea/product. If you box takes off then it is his loss. It was his choice to make, he made it, live with it. Don't beat him up for it, he has done you no harm.
Best wishes
Brant
For those of you that were talking about a Psychotty box that was being made out of aluminum. . is this what you were talking about?
Aluminum type Psychotty airbox
Kev
Aluminum type Psychotty airbox
Kev
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