Attention: TDR Forum Junkies Alright, here is the scoup... ... I am building a GMC conversion truck with a 5. 9... some might remember some of my posts in the past. Anyway, I also pull up here in Ontario, Canada in our Pro-Street Diesel class. Anyway, for two years that the class has beeing going conversion were fine and now all of a sudden it changed but the rules still make to sense and two of them contradict each other.
Here are the rules and the two that are in question are
#2(changed) Engines will be restricted to 6 or 8 cylinder compression ignition engines. All vehicles will be equipped with an O. E. M. engine available in a 1 ton or less from the factory. The use of compressed fuels will be prohibited. Dry ice or water introduced into the combustion chamber will be prohibited.
#21- No engine conversions, model to model or brand to brand.
Model to Model also means that I couldn't even have swapped a Duramax into my 1989 because it had a 6. 2 in those years!
If you ask me this is very unfair and its making a pulling a very rich mans sport seeing in order to be competative I would need buy a $25K Duramax instead of building my own truck and spending half and getting the engine I want!
Is it worth the fight? most of the rules I have seen for pulls in the USA all say that as long as your engine is from a 1-ton or smaller you are OKAY and conversions are fine.
Please respond if you have an oppion and I will be bringing this up at our next meeting.
I have also posted all the rules under this post for you all to see.
Thanks in advance... . RyanB
Pro Street Diesel Class
Class prize money to $600. 00. First prize being $125. 00 decending by $10. 00 back to 6th place. Motioned by Dean Astles, 2nd by Greg Kidd. Votes for 11, 2 against.
The following are the rule changes as discussed at length by the class. These rules are submitted for executive approval.
Rules:
(unchanged) 1. All Pro Street Diesel trucks must be licensed and insured.
(changed) 2. Engines will be restricted to 6 or 8 cylinder compression ignition engines. All vehicles will be equipped with an O. E. M. engine available in a 1 ton or less from the factory. The use of compressed fuels will be prohibited. Dry ice or water introduced into the combustion chamber will be prohibited.
(changed) 3. Turbos must bolt directly to the factory style manifold without the use of an adapter plate and must be a factory style turbocharger. Each vehicle will be equipped with a single turbo only, unless offered as O. E. M. equipment.
(Changed) 4. All vehicles will be equipped with an exhaust system that exits behind the drivers’ compartment. Two 3/8 diameter bolts must be placed in a cross pattern within 1" (one inch) of each other and as close to the final turbo as practical in the exhaust pipe.
5. (unchanged) Diesel fuel must not enter the cab.
6. (unchanged) Dual wheeled trucks will be allowed.
7. (unchanged) Hitch point is to the rear most point of the truck, rigid in all directions and a maximum of 22" from the top of the hitching device to the ground. (see rule 30 of the General rules) No part of the hitching device to exceed the centre of the rear axle. No bumper hitches are allowed.
(Changed) 8. Drive shaft hoops must be installed on all trucks. Drive shaft covers must be constructed of at least 1/4 inch steel, that will safely contain the “U” joints and the ends of each shaft. All shields must be securely mounted to the vehicle.
9. (unchanged) All drivers must wear a DOT approved seat belt and a DOT approved helmet.
(Changed) 10. The use of traction or ladder bars as a supplement to factory suspension will be permitted. They must be a minimum of 60 inches long. There must be a minimum of 1" of suspension travel. There are to be no limiting straps on any suspension component or blocking of suspensions. Air bags must not exceed 30 psi.
(Changed) 11. No weights are allowed forward of the truck bed.
(Changed) 12. Tires must be stamped DOT and not cut or shaved in any way. Tires must be a maximum of 35 inches in diameter and not to exceed a tread width of 14 ½ inches per tire and a maximum rim width of 14 inches. The overall width of the vehicle shall not exceed 96 inches measured at the tire tread.
13. (unchanged) All trucks must have working brakes on all four wheels.
14. (unchanged) Any changes or modifications of the rules will be done with the unanimous vote of the class rep and 3 elected tech people from the class with approval of the executive of C. O. T. P. A. in whole.
15. (unchanged) No truck may hook in two different divisions at the same event.
16. (unchanged) All trucks are subject to a tech inspection at any time during an event by a Track Official.
New Rules
17. All vehicles will be allowed one trial pull per pulling season to conform to all rules set forth herein. This pull will be a trial pull with no points rewarded. All concerns must be addressed by the next pull. If the vehicle doesn’t conform before the next event the vehicle cannot participate in the event until the outstanding issues are resolved.
18. Vehicle weight will be set at 8200 lbs with a 1% variable.
19. Hitches will remain with the vehicle. The sharing of hitches will be prohibited. All hitches will be florescent orange in color.
20. All Driver’s side windows will remain in the open position before and during the pull.
21. No engine conversions, model to model or brand to brand.
22. No slipper clutches.
Elected Tech Reps
Heath Mulock
Bill Sisson
Here are the rules and the two that are in question are
#2(changed) Engines will be restricted to 6 or 8 cylinder compression ignition engines. All vehicles will be equipped with an O. E. M. engine available in a 1 ton or less from the factory. The use of compressed fuels will be prohibited. Dry ice or water introduced into the combustion chamber will be prohibited.
#21- No engine conversions, model to model or brand to brand.
Model to Model also means that I couldn't even have swapped a Duramax into my 1989 because it had a 6. 2 in those years!
If you ask me this is very unfair and its making a pulling a very rich mans sport seeing in order to be competative I would need buy a $25K Duramax instead of building my own truck and spending half and getting the engine I want!
Is it worth the fight? most of the rules I have seen for pulls in the USA all say that as long as your engine is from a 1-ton or smaller you are OKAY and conversions are fine.
Please respond if you have an oppion and I will be bringing this up at our next meeting.
I have also posted all the rules under this post for you all to see.
Thanks in advance... . RyanB
Pro Street Diesel Class
Class prize money to $600. 00. First prize being $125. 00 decending by $10. 00 back to 6th place. Motioned by Dean Astles, 2nd by Greg Kidd. Votes for 11, 2 against.
The following are the rule changes as discussed at length by the class. These rules are submitted for executive approval.
Rules:
(unchanged) 1. All Pro Street Diesel trucks must be licensed and insured.
(changed) 2. Engines will be restricted to 6 or 8 cylinder compression ignition engines. All vehicles will be equipped with an O. E. M. engine available in a 1 ton or less from the factory. The use of compressed fuels will be prohibited. Dry ice or water introduced into the combustion chamber will be prohibited.
(changed) 3. Turbos must bolt directly to the factory style manifold without the use of an adapter plate and must be a factory style turbocharger. Each vehicle will be equipped with a single turbo only, unless offered as O. E. M. equipment.
(Changed) 4. All vehicles will be equipped with an exhaust system that exits behind the drivers’ compartment. Two 3/8 diameter bolts must be placed in a cross pattern within 1" (one inch) of each other and as close to the final turbo as practical in the exhaust pipe.
5. (unchanged) Diesel fuel must not enter the cab.
6. (unchanged) Dual wheeled trucks will be allowed.
7. (unchanged) Hitch point is to the rear most point of the truck, rigid in all directions and a maximum of 22" from the top of the hitching device to the ground. (see rule 30 of the General rules) No part of the hitching device to exceed the centre of the rear axle. No bumper hitches are allowed.
(Changed) 8. Drive shaft hoops must be installed on all trucks. Drive shaft covers must be constructed of at least 1/4 inch steel, that will safely contain the “U” joints and the ends of each shaft. All shields must be securely mounted to the vehicle.
9. (unchanged) All drivers must wear a DOT approved seat belt and a DOT approved helmet.
(Changed) 10. The use of traction or ladder bars as a supplement to factory suspension will be permitted. They must be a minimum of 60 inches long. There must be a minimum of 1" of suspension travel. There are to be no limiting straps on any suspension component or blocking of suspensions. Air bags must not exceed 30 psi.
(Changed) 11. No weights are allowed forward of the truck bed.
(Changed) 12. Tires must be stamped DOT and not cut or shaved in any way. Tires must be a maximum of 35 inches in diameter and not to exceed a tread width of 14 ½ inches per tire and a maximum rim width of 14 inches. The overall width of the vehicle shall not exceed 96 inches measured at the tire tread.
13. (unchanged) All trucks must have working brakes on all four wheels.
14. (unchanged) Any changes or modifications of the rules will be done with the unanimous vote of the class rep and 3 elected tech people from the class with approval of the executive of C. O. T. P. A. in whole.
15. (unchanged) No truck may hook in two different divisions at the same event.
16. (unchanged) All trucks are subject to a tech inspection at any time during an event by a Track Official.
New Rules
17. All vehicles will be allowed one trial pull per pulling season to conform to all rules set forth herein. This pull will be a trial pull with no points rewarded. All concerns must be addressed by the next pull. If the vehicle doesn’t conform before the next event the vehicle cannot participate in the event until the outstanding issues are resolved.
18. Vehicle weight will be set at 8200 lbs with a 1% variable.
19. Hitches will remain with the vehicle. The sharing of hitches will be prohibited. All hitches will be florescent orange in color.
20. All Driver’s side windows will remain in the open position before and during the pull.
21. No engine conversions, model to model or brand to brand.
22. No slipper clutches.
Elected Tech Reps
Heath Mulock
Bill Sisson
