Quadzilla's fuel box

[lilwilbur]

Any of you guys running Quads new box? Stated hp gains of 440hp seems a little unreal. Are these gains actual RWHP?



wilbur

 

[Tomeygun]

it is on there website? ohh, thats the "race" adjustable one, 140 HP... well, timing and pressure - TO THE MAX!



i guess it is possible

 

[lilwilbur]

If it is possible that cannot be RWHP numbers. If someone can explain different please do.



Is there anybody running this box? If so have you dynoed it to be sure of the claims?



wilbur

 

[fencebuilders]

Originally posted by lilwilbur

If it is possible that cannot be RWHP numbers. If someone can explain different please do.



Is there anybody running this box? If so have you dynoed it to be sure of the claims?



wilbur

Sure,it could be pre -drivetrain loss numbers.

 

[lilwilbur]

This is my point, or I guess what I was wondering. I think that it makes the gains a little mis-leading.



wilbur

 

[curatchko]

Well... . I don't know about figures, and don't much care either since I can make a dyno say anything I want, but I have the 140 horse box and I will say it's a rocket. It's makin enough steam that the clutch in the torque converter won't hold it... . So until I get a trans upgrade, I have to have some self control and stay out of the 140 horse setting.....



There ain't much on road with me at any given day that can beat this truck on a roll... it's fun!!!



Puts out some black smoke too!!! Oo.

 

[daytripper63]

140 HP model has been discontinued

 

[XcumminsX]

why was it discontinued? throwing codes?



Nick

 

[qzilla]

It did throw a few codes, but it appears we have that solved now. We are still not pushing them as we have different stuff in the works and we are recommending people that want more than a 100hp to wait.



As far as the 440hp, that is engine. We tell you it makes a 140hp gain. It does not matter if it is engine or rwhp, a gain is a gain. If you make 250 rwhp and at it, you will be at 390rwhp, or 305hp at the motor you will be at 445hp afterwards.



This module has been out a while and it works great on about 98% of the trucks. It makes stupid amounts of power, but we have some new stuff right around the corner that will make everyone happy.



Quad

 

[thames1948]

Is the new stuff going to work on the 600 also?

 

[daytripper63]

Hope new stuff is out soon I feel the need for MORE

 

[lilwilbur]

Quad I am not picking here, just inquiring.



How can you say it does not matter if it is engine hp or rear wheel hp. We "all" deal in usable hp, that being RWHP.



The reason I ask these questions is there are folks who don't understand what actual gains are when speaking of HP. For instance I am helping a friend with a Ram find a box. He asks me about yours and states that he can obtain 440hp with it. Now my friend is not up to speed on the actual gains but he knows my truck will make 416hp with my mods. He excited to see that with a simple box he can make more hp than me. Do you not think he would be dissapointed if not ****** off to dyno his truck or race me and come up short?



Just thoughts.



wilbur

 

[qzilla]

It is going to work on the 600 or so far it does! We wished we had already finished it, but it takes time.



As far as the gains on our older timing box is concerned here is my feelings. I tell you what hp gain I can give you. To get that gain it does not matter where you measure it. Where you have to be careful is if someone tells you it will make 330rwhp. What if your truck makes more or less than their truck did? If your box makes 100 rwhp, should it make 120 flywheel horsepower? That is why I say 140hp gain. If you make 250rwhp stock, then you should see 390rwhp. If you pulled your motor out and it dynos 305hp, then you will in fact be over 440hp! Would your buddy be upset if dynod his trucks that Dodge claims 305hp and got only 260rwhp?



I know how you guys feel about usable HP and that is fine, just remember we advertise hp gains. ALso if anyone ever calls and asks any of our guys will discuss this.



On another hand where did you see the 440 hp number? Are you sure you aren't looking at the 6L Ford site?



On edit, I think your buddy might have added 305 and 140 on his own. I do not think that has ever been advertisied on the 5. 9L common rail. Maybe we can hlep clear things up for him.





Quad

 

[daytripper63]

Kids always say

(Are we there yet?)

Here we always say

(IS IT DONE YET?)

 

[qzilla]

I know, I hate to even bring new stuff up.

 

[lilwilbur]

Saw the 440hp quoted here .



wilbur