2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Quality Brakes

[MRoberts]

I don't have them (yet), but they are on my dream list and supposed to be the best available for our trucks. Applied Rotor Technology.

 

[CTD12V]

I have a old Ammco Brake shoe grinder. Not everbody has seen one of these so I'll give a brief description. . .

Interesting! Thanks for the info and picture. I suppose regular brake shops don't do that kind of thing -- at least not anymore?



CTD12V

 

[kentdiesel]

Interesting! Thanks for the info and picture. I suppose regular brake shops don't do that kind of thing -- at least not anymore?



CTD12V

I'd say you'll have a long hunt finding a shop that uses one of these. I know about them because I was taught by old guys who worked as mechanics in the 50's and 60's. After my uncle died who had a shop from the 50's to the

90's I lost access to a Shoe Grinder so I did a search on the Internet and bought one several years ago to improve the rear brakes on my Dodge without the trouble and expense of rear disc conversion.



After seeing the difference in my truck I thought about selling a kit with 2 new drums, new arc ground shoes and new larger rear wheel cylinders. It would give 94 to 99 trucks rear wheel disc performance at about a 1/3 of the cost of disc brake conversion.

 

[CTD12V]

Might be worth a try. Shoot, even just arc-grinding a pair of shoes, if we provided the dimensions of the drums. Of course, quality control might be a little harder that way.



But I think your idea might actually be pretty good, especially if the results are on par with rear discs!



CTD12V

 

[FLynes]

I had a shop arc-grind the shoes on my 65 Plymouth Satellite... I had front and rear drums... the car would stop on a dime. I had totally forgotten about that, until kentdiesel brought it up. I don't know that any brake shops would know how to do that anymore, but maybe I'll hunt around and see if I can get an old machine and do it myself.

 

[Davcruz]

Can anyone running the NAPA HD pads in the front and rear tell me how the brake dust is? Heavy, not heavy? I don't know what brand are on my 2001. 5 currently, but they cover my front wheels in dust in a weeks period, maybe 100-150 miles. Squeal like a pig too.

 

[BWagnaar]

I tried a place called BrakePerformance.com in California, it came out to $261 for 2 slotted and dimpled rotors and semi-metallic pads. I went with dimpled cause they said its stronger than cross drilled rotors. They look good and so far they seem to work ok, no problems of worse stopping. We'll see when they are broke in and I have to slow down from a speed run.

 

[Dave M]

Very nice rotors "BWagnaar". I paid $270 for NAPA drilled/slotted rotors and $70 for NAPA Heavy Duty Pads for a total of $340 versus your $261. What brand are the rotors and are they USA made? They design is similiar to the NAPA ones except NAPA has slots instead of dimples.

 

[BWagnaar]

They said made in the use, I think in Northern California. They had a pair that were drilled all the way through for about $20 bucks cheaper, its funny though, its more work to drill all the way through than to just dimple it... . You get a choice between coatings sliver or black zinc. We'll see how long they last, they say it has a life time guaranty against warping... . I'll test that.

 

[CTD12V]

Nice pics, BWagnaar. I don't want to steal/reroute this thread in a different direction, but is there a way to convert the older style of hub/rotor assembly to the newer one like that where the rotor is on the OUTSIDE of the hub bearing?

 

[BWagnaar]

Well I've just started driving the truck again, after I tore my commuter Toyota apart cause it was dripping a quart of oil every week!!

Does any one with slotted and drilled rotors notice any noise?? Mine make a little noise like a playing card rubbing on the forks of a bike going REALLY FAST. I'm assuming its the pads rubbing on the slots or dimples. I can hear it more when I apply the brakes. Its not too loud, if I have the radio on I dont notice it.

 

[KYOUNG]

your toyota is probably leaking from the shaped Oring under the oil pump, they tend to disinigrate over time.....

 

[TLarsen]

Well I've just started driving the truck again, after I tore my commuter Toyota apart cause it was dripping a quart of oil every week!!



Does any one with slotted and drilled rotors notice any noise?? Mine make a little noise like a playing card rubbing on the forks of a bike going REALLY FAST. I'm assuming its the pads rubbing on the slots or dimples. I can hear it more when I apply the brakes. Its not too loud, if I have the radio on I dont notice it.

I recently put AC Delco drilled and slotted rotors on my '98 with reman calipers and Hawk SD pads. It makes no more noise than the stock rotors and pads made.



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[rivercat]

don't suppose they have a slotted drilled rotor at carquest I have an awsome account there and it would save me big bucks to use them. the not cryo power slots are 110 a side at auto anything and napa online sells their rotor for 170 a side! anyone tryed car quest yet?

 

[TLarsen]

When I bought mine Car Quest did have drilled and slotted rotors, unfortunately, they had just one rotor that was made in the USA and everything else was made in China. Their manufacturer had changed factories and the price was the same - no thanks.

My AC Delco rotors said made in the USA on them, but I suspect anything other than OEM rotors will all be made in Asia very soon.

 

[dieselshu]

Brake pads

I have been running Hawkhead pads with Brembo rotors. Great combo and the pads are used in commercial trucks and police vehicles.



http://www.hawkhead.com/



Dave

 

[esamuelson]

I would like to upgrade my brakes on my 98 dually. Is there larger rear wheel cylinders for these as well? Anyone try the EGR brake package?

 

[RandallScot]

Brakeperformance.com

BWagnaar

Was wondering if you could post your likes, or dislikes regarding rotors installed back in March of '08. Will be purchasing some new rotors soon, and was considering the same ones you got. Thanks Oo. Oo. :-laf