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DHayden said:
I wish every state would yank your license for doing 30 over the limit. Morons around here kill somebody every week on the highway cause they just cant wait to get where their going or they like the sound of that fart can on their ricer.



I didn't say I don't agree with that, I do, just stating that, that's the way it is. The bad thing is, as I remember, we only have a couple hundred state troopers. Washington state on the other hand has over 2200.



Dave
 
i dont really have a problem going 65-70 here in or. hwy patrol is usually pulling over semi's and hasnt ever looked twice at me. cant stand to watch gas pumpers spill diesel all over a nice new rig cause they have to reach the closest dollar. had a 45yr old man tell me it was teh best job he ever had, never seen so many cute girls. kinda felt bad for the guy.
 
We have lived in Oregon about 20 years and that issue of having your gas pumped by an attendant has been voted on a couple of times. The people want their gas attendants. So thats why the fire laws haven't been changed. The last governor raised our vehicle license fees from $11. 00 a year to $15. 00. Then he wanted a sales tax. Us taxpayers told him that if he wanted a sales tax, he should move to a state that has one. Fred
 
I'm not sure, but I think you have to be 16 to get a job in Oregon. It's to "protect" children from "abuse". I grew up in Oregon being "abused" by earning money picking strawberries, beans, hops and pumping gas. They tried to legalize self-serv by having us vote it in, saying it would lower the cost of gas. Trouble was Washington was self-serv at that time and their prices were generaly higher or the same. It wasn't to bad a deal having somebody fill your tank, check your oil and wash your windshield. They would even check your tires if you asked. Most of that has gone the way of the horse and buggy now that the oil companys have swallowed up most of the Mom & Pops.

Oregon is now trying to figure a way to require some sort of devise be installed on your vehicle to show how many miles you travel and to where and on what roads. It seems they have convinced so many people to drive Ugos and the like that the $ from gas tax are not what the used to be.
 
Do like I do, fill up in Washington and smoke through Oregon!



Oregon is in my sales territory and I will go out of ny way to pump my own fuel. It has nothing to do with intelligence or competance. I just prefer to do for myself.



Besides, I don't trust anyone to touch my vehicle, ever. The dealer was kind enough to send my first truck to be fueked and it came back with a little gasoline in the tank. I guess the cold weather warranted a little thinner.



Dave
 
LRamey said:
Then top it with what they call the "Basic rule" which says we can in spite of the posted 55 drive to the conditions of the road, meaning if you have a nice day out & not much traffic you can most likely get away with 70. So what we get is some old granny that thinks she has to drive 55 and the rest of us who want to drive 70 & a big mess.
But hey, we don't have a SALES TAX!!
There, I feel better already. :{

Lonnie

I think you have the "Basic Speed Rule" backwards. I'm not arguing as to good or bad, but what it means is that you can never legally drive over a posted speed limit and that if conditions are such as to make even that speed unsafe, you can still be ticketed for driving too fast for the conditions (VBR). What it boils down to is that in Oregon they can write you a ticket any time they want to. On the other hand it makes no sense at all to drive 55 on black ice in a white-out and claim it was OK because the road was posted at 55. Just try to tell an Oregon Judge that it was such a nice day and since the traffic was light you felt it was OK to drive 70.
 
I remember when I was a kid,in Washington, they pumped youre gas, checked youre tires, washed your windows (all of them) and checked youre oils. Some even swept out the floor mats. Do they still do that in Ore? Probably not. Sorry----- just reminising about a time when customer service was more than a word. . sigh------ I'm all better now doc. ;)
 
snapshot said:
I think you have the "Basic Speed Rule" backwards. I'm not arguing as to good or bad, but what it means is that you can never legally drive over a posted speed limit and that if conditions are such as to make even that speed unsafe, you can still be ticketed for driving too fast for the conditions (VBR). What it boils down to is that in Oregon they can write you a ticket any time they want to. On the other hand it makes no sense at all to drive 55 on black ice in a white-out and claim it was OK because the road was posted at 55. Just try to tell an Oregon Judge that it was such a nice day and since the traffic was light you felt it was OK to drive 70.



You are correct AFAIK. People just don't get it. You may not like driving 55, but that is the limit, everybody driving way over the limit still doesn't make it right. I roll between 55 and 62 about 99% of the time, if you don't like that, then pass, when IT IS SAFE. Just for fun, I tried to pace traffic on I5 between Salem and Portland a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday morning. Most of the traffic was rolling between 75 and 80 with a few going faster. My question is WHY? There was a article here this week where the State Police wrote several wreckless driving tickets recetly, and they mentioned that writing a bunch of tickets for 90 mph plus is common anymore. This was Central Oregon where just about all roads are two lane and none posted higher than 55. Why the need to drive 90?????????



SHG
 
Why the need to drive 90?????????



I think that everyone is so use to "Having it NOW", that they just can't wait for ANYTHING let alone sitting in a car for hours on end traveling somewhere. In the electronic world things get faster and faster but most people just won't accept the fact that have to sit in a car. They really irritate me here in Nevada. Most of the time they are running over 100 on I-15 north which is fine if you are alone on the road, but when there is slower traffic, these guys (and gals) think it is their god given right to push their way through no matter what.
 
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