question for shooters or hunters

[gregdoerfler]

I have a 300 weatherby mag rifle and want to know if anybody knew how much the bullets drop at different yards out to about 500 yards. i know that there are other variables that would change them but just wanted to see what you all had experienced, i am using Remington 178 gr bullets.

 

[ndurbin]

I found this chart on the remington website. 300 weatherby ballistic report

 

[Bova]

I don't have any info on Remington 178gr. bullets but...





A 180 grain Nosler partition with a ballistic coefficient of . 474 fired out of . 300 weatherby @3100fps would drop 42. 5 inches @ 500yds. Thats with a 100 zero on your rifle. at 500 yards the velocity would be 2159fps 1863lbs energy.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

The 300 Weatherby is a freakin CANNON!

 

[Bova]

You said up to 500 yds not at 500yds my bad.



100 yards. 0. 0 inches



200 -2. 7



300 -10. 1



400 -23. 0



500 -42. 5



600 -69. 4

 

[jgillott]

I just started using a 300 Weatherby this year. I'm extremely impressed by its performance so far. I would reccomend it to anyone looking for a consistant, heavy hitting, big game rifle. Here is a link to the Weatherby site. Click on the pdf file in the balistics report section. It will give you all the information you need on Weatherby brand ammo if you are interested.



Justin



http://www.weatherby.com/ammo/ballistics.shtml

 

[gregdoerfler]

i should have clarified my question (thats why i hate typing these questions i know what i want but do not know how to ask the right questions) i have my rifle set at 2. 5 inches high at 100 yrds. although tables might be accurate, i would like some real world measurements, but i will take table measurements also. thanks for the replies and please keep them coming.

 

[Bova]

That rifle has a 200yd zero, here is your chart



200yards 0. 0



300 -6. 1



400 -17. 7



500 -35. 8



600 -61. 4

 

[jgillott]

There are a lot of variables to this information, but maby it will help in your set up. I shot the first deer with my Weatherby on Monday. According to the range finder that I was using, it was standing just within 200 yards. Now I have my rifle sighted to hit center at 100 yards. In order to compensate, I tried to hit slightly below the top of the shoulder thinking that it would drop into the vital area. It actually didn't drop at all from where I had it set. Now I'm sure that I probably pulled up slightly, but it did not drop anywhere near what I was expecting.



By the way... . My setup is a Weatherby Vangard 300 WBY mag, Leupold Vari-XII, Weatherby 150 Grain Spire Point



Justin

 

[DKayser]

What the hell?

What can you hunt in Pennsylvania that requires a 300 Weatherby? Out here we got most of the big stuff, but the . 06 &270 are still king. Not flaming, just curious. I like power too,but find the ol` 06 plenty.

 

[jgillott]

There is really nothing in PA, or anywhere for that matter, that you need a . 300 weatherby for. Of course there are some bear and such that it would be the perfect gun for. Actually I'm using this rifle for deer here to get a little more comfortable with it. A group of us go out west and to Canada for Elk, Bear etc. I don't want the first thing that I shoot at with a new gun to be a trophy that I've spent a lot of money to be hunting for.



Justin

 

[JConley]

The tables are set for a standard atmospheric day, and will only get you "in the neighborhood" in real conditions.



There is no way to accurately tell you what the exact drop will be in your situation since it changes with the weather. A 10 degree temp change in either direction will change the point of impact 1 minute of angle or 5 inches at 500 yards. If the humidity changes 10 % that will add another minute of angle change or another 5 inches at 500 yards. Now you are 10 inches high or low, at 500 yards and the only thing that changed was the temp and humidity. Your zero is only accurate at the time you zeroed. If you want to get accurate at any distance you need a hand held weather meter (Kesteral 4000 is the one I use) and a ballistic calculator. oh yea... wind direction, speed, and up/down shooting angle also affects point of impact. You also need bullet velocity, and ballistic coefficient of the bullet to add into the calculations.



Thought it was easy huh...

 

[PLaFrombois]

Practice, Practice, Practice.



If you have the area that allows you to shoot that distance for practice, do it. You can only improve by shooting at various distances and learning how your rifle will shoot.



In Wisconsin, most of the local gun ranges are only 100 yards. I was pretty good with my '06 at that range. A friend from work invited me to his range, and it was set up for 200 yards. My first four shots couldn't be covered with a plate. By the end of the day, and many shots after, I started to become comfortable shooting at that distance.



Paul

 

[BV]

I would zero it at 200 and then remember that it will be 1-2" high at 100 depending on the rifle/shooter. This will help compensate for the conditions that JConley writes about.

 

[gonehuntingagain]

The best way to find out is to actually go out and shoot the ranges, and do it in all types of weather conditions. You also will want to not just shoot from a bench, but try to shoot the same way that you would in a hunting situation.



That being said, you can get a theoretical drop chart. A chronograph would be needed to get the actual velocity that your particular rifle and lot of ammunition. Once you ge that, then go here:

http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm/ballistics/traj/traj.html



The bullet drop will close, but there is no substitute for actually shooting the distances.



I shoot a 300 Winchester Magnum, which is compareable to the Weatherby. If you reload, I would suggest Nosler's new 200gr Accubond. They have a great ballistic coefficient, fly well, and hit like a hammer.

 

[gregdoerfler]

thanks for the help i was just wonderind if the charts would be close, i have never thought of the temp or humidity play any role. the reason i ask is i had a shot at a deer at about 500 yrds (i am not even sure the distance i did not have a range finder but plan on getting one) and held 8 inches over its back and was close from looking at where the deer was standing and where the bullet hit. i am thinking along the same lines as jgillott with using the 300 to practice shooting for my trip for elk someday. and with the new law here that the deer have to have atleast 4 points on one side i dont want to have to track them t ofind that someone else shot.

 

[Rman]

I won't get into a battle on ballistics but I shoot 7mm rem mag, and I set it roughly 2 inches high at 100 which brings it in at roughly 300 yards. Generally I don't shoot longer than that unless i have REALLY have too. Any longer and you're just bleeding too much energy off the bullet. The . 300 weatherby performs well and should only drop about 42 inches at 500 yards. I use IMR4831 and my book shows 76 grains for a muzzle of 3028 and 86% load density... with a 180 grain nosler.



I can get ballistics like that with my 7mm but the weatherby outperforms energy wise until about 300 yards... this is with a 150 grain on the 7mm though. Everyone is going to have an opinion on caliber and bullets... I think if you shoot well you can kill an animal with just about anything, if you're talking bench shooting then we can throw some more out there to argue about.



Personally I would recommend against the 300 wby. the shells are friggin expensive!!! even to load yourself!

 

[jgillott]

I agree on the price... ... . it is roughly $1. 50-$2. 00 a round off the shelf for the 300 wby.



Justin

 

[gregdoerfler]

i agree also the price is a little high for the 300 shells but i like big guns and plan on getting bigger ones sometime, and its only money you cant take it with you. i have a TC encore pistol in 308 caliber i dont mind the kick but it is heavy to hold steady without resting against something.