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I bought a used 04 4x4 OFF ROAD Package CTD with an Anti-Slip RE. Loved the truck but unfortunately it was stolen about a month ago, and I now have to look for a replacement.



I do NO serious Off-Road stuff and NO planned towing, but I have Anti-Slip RE's in my 2WD Sport Trac and 2WD Ranger, so other than being high-centered, I get along pretty well in most of the snow situations here in the midwest by just throwing a couple of truck tires in the back end. But I got the 04 Dodge CTD for those times the snow is just too deep, or when I have to pull another truck.



So ... the question is ... how important is the Anti-Slip RE in a 4WD vehicle? In other words ... can you get out of and thru non-off-road snow and mud situations by just using 4WD or actually 3WD I guess? The replacement vehicles I am pursuing lean towards the LARAMIE vehicle, but I am finding that most of them with the options I prefer DO NOT have Anti-Slip REs.



Thanks in advance for your opinions.



BH
 
I think you answered your own question... if you have 4WD and have snow the anti-slip is a must. . We just received a new 5500 and it's a 2WD truck... . mostly highway miles... but its got the anti-slip for those times we need here in snow country...
 
A lot of trucks were made without an LSD... while it does help, but not an absolute must have.

I wouldn't pass up a truck I really liked because it didn't have the LSD.

steved
 
Here is an article posted about your question. I asked this question to a auto column. I don't see it worth the $ myself.





Chip: I have a Dodge 4X4 with an anti-spin differential (limited slip rear

end).

Before that I had Ford Bronco with the same.



With both vehicles I have had occasion to be off road in mud or gravel

and

had one rear wheel spin requiring me to engage 4wd to get out. I have

heard

to apply the brake to change power from one wheel to the next. This did

not

> > prove to be effective. So just what advantage am I getting off road?

> >

> > On other occasions (with both vehicles) I have spun out on ice when in

2wd.

> > Could the limited slip rear end contribute to this happening? If this is

so

> > could people who have limited slip be at risk and not know it?















Thanks again for your question. Here is an early copy of my column in

reply.



Best regards,



Chip

>

> A: According to Isaac Steele, my off-roading enthusiast co-worker,

> your problem is common: "Most hardcore off-roaders think a factory

> limited-slip differential isn't much better than a standard

> differential. Limited-slips are fine when there's not much traction

> loss, but they're almost worthless when one tire loses traction

> completely. "

>

> The differential splits the torque applied by the driveshaft and

> delivers it to the two drive axles. When the vehicle turns a corner,

> the outside wheel travels farther than the inside wheel, so the

> differential must also allow the two drive axles to turn at different

> speeds. Therein lies a conflict: how does the differential know the

> difference between a wheel that's turning a corner and one that's

> losing traction?

>

> Dozens of traction-enhancing differential designs address this

> conflict. Some, such as the Torsen differential used by Hummer and

> Audi, are factory equipment. Others are made by the aftermarket, and

> may be retrofitted to most vehicles. Each can be rated on a "torque

> bias ratio" scale of the differential's ability to transfer torque to

> the wheel with traction when one wheel slips.

>

> The standard "open differential" is at the low end of the scale. It

> has a torque bias ratio of zero -- it always transmits all the torque

> to the wheel that's slipping. Limited-slip differentials improve upon

> this. Those with clutch packs, like the one in your Dodge, transfer

> some of the torque from the slipping wheel to the one with traction.

> Those using viscous fluids or helical gear arrangements have more

> aggressive torque bias ratios.

>

> At the top of the scale, a "locker" differential will lock, or

> "spool," the two axles solidly together, so both wheels always receive

> an equal amount of torque. A spooled differential won't leave you

> stuck until both wheels completely lose traction, but it also won't

> turn a corner without scrubbing the wheels. A vehicle with a spooled

> differential can be impossible to maneuver on dry pavement, and unsafe

> to drive at speed on icy roads.

>

> In general, the greater the torque bias ratio, the greater the

> handling difficulty there will be at speed on ice. There are

> exceptions however; the Torsen differential is stable under icy

> conditions, and some locker differentials, such as the Toyota locking

> differential, or the ARB Air Locker (ARB 4x4 Accessories Bull Bars Air Locker IPF Lights) allow the driver

> to switch between a locked and a standard differential by pressing a

> button on the dash.

>

> Factory limited-slip differentials don't generally have enough torque

> bias to create problems in icy conditions. This low torque bias is

> also why you haven't been helped by the trick of pressing the brake

> lightly when a wheel spins. The trick works well when the torque bias

> ratio is high.

>

>
 
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My truck came from the factory w/o a Limited Slip unit. I hated it because, even if the street was a little wet, my back passanger tire would break loose and I would sit and spin. I just had a LS unit installed and it makes a huge difference. I'm very impressed, espically in the snow. I've used my 4wd about 1/2 the time since the LS was put in. IMHO, I'm very glad I have it now. I think all trucks should have them.
 
I Have Two Trucks On With And The Other With Out The Lsd. I Have Driven Both In The Snow And Mud And Couldn't Tell Any Difference How The Preformed. The Only Time I Have Seen A Need And It Wasn't Bad Was When The Tires Have Been Worn Enough To Justify Replacement And I Was To Broke To Do It. If The Truck Without Lsd Was Loaded Heavy And It Had Just Started To Rain And The Road Was A Little Slick Starting On Hill It Would Try To Slip I Just Put It In 4wd And Went On. Then Kicked It Back Out Once I Was Rolling Good.



Would I Not Buy A Truck If It Didn't Have The Lsd? No But I Also Wouldn't Not Buy One If It Had Just Trying To Save Money No Way Either.
 
Bullhauler



I certainly would not pass up a nice truck because it didn't have limited slip. All my trucks have had 4 wheel drive since the mid 70's, and that feature I would never be without. But limited slip, I would never miss.

The limited slips I've had have all been factory set up's which as the above article states are the low end of pole variety. The Ford I had was equiped with LS front and back.

Didn't notice much difference.



Get a truck with 4 wheel drive, equip it with good suitable tires for what you do, and don't look back, because you won't have to.
 
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