Questions on my new 2017

[SnoKing]

I have 3.73's in my DRW C&C only tow about 1/4 time.. I think they are a good all around ratio..

And I am grossing over 24K with 3.42's and they work great. Bobtail at 80 is only 1750 RPM with good mileage to boot. The Aisin transmission is the ringer in this combination, as it gets heavy loads rolling with it lower gears. Again towing in 5th at 60 MPH is 1750 RPM and at or near max torque. Drop the trailer and you have a second overdrive to cruise the freeways at a conformable RPM. What is to not like about that? If I decide to go to a duallie and had the same 16K trailer with no plan for a heavier trailer I would look for 3.42 geared one.

With 6 gears even with 3.42 final ratio there is a gear for every situation, if you have the Aisin. I would not do this with the 68RFE. Only place it wins in reverse is much lower than the Aisin.

Now do I need a duallie with a 39'4" 16K 5th wheel. We just returned from Az 1450 miles and had a lot of wind, and to combination handed just fine. Same going down in the fall. I see no need for a duallie and DW does NOT want one period anyway, as that is our only vehicle in Az. The 2013 3500's forward(think new frame and front end) are so capable that until one has used one it is hard to understand. They are heavy beasts and can handle a lot.

 

[Newsa]

Wish I had a PID that told me when I was in an active Regen. Also, I wish I knew which type

Torque Pro will only give numerical data. It won't interpret the data it collects. So it will never give a notification that you are in active regen. CTS insight has higher functionality to interpret data, and set pararmeters/alarms. That is the extra functionality that you pay the extra $350 for.

My truck has had a dozen different software uploads. And 2 or 3 of those versions of software allowed the EVIC to alert me to an active regen. The current version provides an EVIC message every time it goes into Active Regen. But I went for more than 2 years without a regen message even though I could hear it going into regen.

Passive regen reportedly occurs when the DPF is above 600° F. So when my Torque Pro shows 800-1200° F on EGT #2 & EGT #3, I believe it is doing some soot burn in the DPF.

If you need/want more info than what you are seeing, you should consider the higher functionality of the CTS Edge Insight. People on this forum recommend it highly.

 

[Randy_F]

Torque Pro will only give numerical data. It won't interpret the data it collects. So it will never give a notification that you are in active regen. CTS insight has higher functionality to interpret data, and set pararmeters/alarms. That is the extra functionality that you pay the extra $350 for.

My truck has had a dozen different software uploads. And 2 or 3 of those versions of software allowed the EVIC to alert me to an active regen. The current version provides an EVIC message every time it goes into Active Regen. But I went for more than 2 years without a regen message even though I could hear it going into regen.

Passive regen reportedly occurs when the DPF is above 600° F. So when my Torque Pro shows 800-1200° F on EGT #2 & EGT #3, I believe it is doing some soot burn in the DPF.

If you need/want more info than what you are seeing, you should consider the higher functionality of the CTS Edge Insight. People on this forum recommend it highly.

See that little gauge in the upper middle that says "DPF Mode"? That would light up green when the truck (my Ecodiesel) was beginning and near the end of a Regen, when it was "lighting off" with active regeneration. So, yes, it would most definitely show when the truck was in active Regen. #ad

 

[Newsa]

Teen what's this? See that little have in the upper middle that says "DPF Mode"? That would light up green when the truck (my Ecodiesel) was beginning and near the end of a Regen, when it was "lighting off" with active regeneration. So, yes, it would most definitely show when the truck was in active Regen. #ad

I see. I don't have that option either. So didn't know it was possible in torque pro. I thought you were looking for a message spelled out in English. I didn't know you were looking for a gauge to turn green

 

[Randy_F]

I see. I don't have that option either. So didn't know it was possible in torque pro. I thought you were looking for a message spelled out in English. I didn't know you were looking for a gauge to turn green

Yeah. Thanks for all of the info, nonetheless! I wish we had more Cummins owners who were using Torque Pro. You should see all of the custom PID's on the Ecodiesel Ram and Jeep forums.

 

[kthaxton]

And 2 or 3 of those versions of software allowed the EVIC to alert me to an active regen. The current version provides an EVIC message every time it goes into Active Regen. But I went for more than 2 years without a regen message even though I could hear it going into regen.

It will ONLY give you an indication in the EVIC that it is in regen if the DPF is getting critically plugged because your truck has not been driven long enough for an effective regen (active OR passive).
Active regen takes place frequently, without you even knowing it.

 

[Newsa]

I've done some testing while towing which may help make a decision on which gear to use.

https://youtu.be/cALxd_X6I1o

From the video, it seems you might get better soot control (passive regen) running 1100-1300 RPM while unloaded? And 1300-1600.RPM while towing?

Correct me if I'm wrong. But this seems to be the shift points of the AISIN?

 

[Redemption]

Well after about a month of towing our 15,000 lbs 5th wheel from Phoenix, to Houston, to Tulsa, to Colorado Springs and now to Sacramento......I have a few observations and questions! I have 3.73's, DRW's with the A. Transmission....at 65-68 mph that I travel at on the freeway, I seem to pull about 1750-1800 rims which seem to be pretty comfortable. When I am in city traffic doing 50-65 mph I paddle shift down to 5th and seem to be in the 1900-2000 rpm' which feel "right"...and going through some of the hills and men's I will also shift down out of 6th and into 5th....seems to work fine. I still wonder if I would like the 4:10's better, but the more I drive the more I like my options of driving 65-68 in 6th or slowing down to 60 in 5th....with 4:10's I would not be as comfortable cruising at 65-68 all day? Think 3:73's are a good compromise...especially when we are not hooked up. Now for my questions...is it ok for me to cruise in 5th? Not hurting anything by locking out 6th? And would still like to know if I can use up my Amsoil supply of Cetane Boost and Injector Clean?! And lastly, has anyone installed any tuners on a 2017...if so... how do you like it? THANKS,

 

[SnoKing]

Well after about a month of towing our 15,000 lbs 5th wheel from Phoenix, to Houston, to Tulsa, to Colorado Springs and now to Sacramento......I have a few observations and questions! I have 3.73's, DRW's with the A. Transmission....at 65-68 mph that I travel at on the freeway, I seem to pull about 1750-1800 rims which seem to be pretty comfortable. When I am in city traffic doing 50-65 mph I paddle shift down to 5th and seem to be in the 1900-2000 rpm' which feel "right"...and going through some of the hills and men's I will also shift down out of 6th and into 5th....seems to work fine. I still wonder if I would like the 4:10's better, but the more I drive the more I like my options of driving 65-68 in 6th or slowing down to 60 in 5th....with 4:10's I would not be as comfortable cruising at 65-68 all day? Think 3:73's are a good compromise...especially when we are not hooked up. Now for my questions...is it ok for me to cruise in 5th? Not hurting anything by locking out 6th? And would still like to know if I can use up my Amsoil supply of Cetane Boost and Injector Clean?! And lastly, has anyone installed any tuners on a 2017...if so... how do you like it? THANKS,

I tow in 5th all the time with my Aisin transmission and 3.42 gears. I would only put diesel in the diesel tank. Tuner?? Remember you become your own warranty station.

I bought a 8 year 120k extended warranty, and would NEVER put a tuner on mine during that period. SNOKING

 

[Redemption]

Thanks for the confirmation on pulling in 5th gear! As much as I liked my first Dodge/Cummings (1999 Quad-cab), this 2017 is amazing! This is quite the tow beast! Another question...what is a safe temperature range for the motor oil? During our pull out here to Sacramento from Cheyanne I noticed my oil getting up to 230...what would be my "red-line" for my oil?

 

[Cummins12V98]

You said it! 3.73's are a "compromise". Cummins/Aisin up to 28K combined 3.42's are the ticket. Same RPM in 5th as 4.10's in 6th. Solo driving 3.42's are the best for mileage.

Yes use up your AMZ/OIL.

 

[SnoKing]

You said it! 3.73's are a "compromise". Cummins/Aisin up to 28K combined 3.42's are the ticket. Same RPM in 5th as 4.10's in 6th. Solo driving 3.42's are the best for mileage.

Yes use up your AMZ/OIL.

"And would still like to know if I can use up my Amsoil supply of Cetane Boost and Injector Clean?" Ron, you think it is ok to use a fuel additive?

 

[Cummins12V98]

"And would still like to know if I can use up my Amsoil supply of Cetane Boost and Injector Clean?" Ron, you think it is ok to use a fuel additive?

I don't waste my money but Cummins recently approved PowerService I think it was.

I ran AMZ/OIL's Cetain and Additive on my 11 but did not notice any real advantage.

 

[spoon059]

what is a safe temperature range for the motor oil? During our pull out here to Sacramento from Cheyanne I noticed my oil getting up to 230...what would be my "red-line" for my oil?

Cummins doesn't publish those numbers, same as EGT's. The only thing they say is that the stock Ram computer will NOT allow the truck to exceed safe temperatures, it will defuel the engine before it reaches critical temps.

 

[Redemption]

Not too worried about what Cummings might think about the oil temp as I know they have safe guards in place for the engine... but I would like to know what is "too hot" for my oil? If I'm running high, I would like to know so I could decide to change my oil sooner than called for...?

 

[Newsa]

Not too worried about what Cummings might think about the oil temp as I know they have safe guards in place for the engine... but I would like to know what is "too hot" for my oil? If I'm running high, I would like to know so I could decide to change my oil sooner than called for...?

I think Ram's parameters for defueling upon high temps are based on high quality dino/conventional diesel oil (rotella, Delo, pennzoil, Valvoline, and many others).
210°-220°F seems to be common for a hard-working engine.

And transmission temps at least that high or even quite higher.

I mostly use synthetic...... Just to have the best protection.

FYI, People on here won't like the way you spelled the engine manufacturer's company name. But they might change the name to "Cummings", for the 100th anniversary in a coupla years.

 

[Cummins12V98]

"Cummings" is a place in Georgia.

 

[SnoKing]

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[Redemption]

Sorry to all! After having two '99's, an '05, and an '07 before my present 2017....I cannot believe I wrote "Cummings"!!! instead of "Cummins"!!!! I will take my well deserved punishment in silence!!! I claim " spell check" mishap as my defense!

 

[18Dodger18]

Don't worry too much, Bob, I'm over age 82, so i claim, "Ignoramity"... Olde Bob (18Dodger18)