Race with a COBRA.......Would I win?

[JEly]

He really didnt say how we would start just he would give me a 1/4 mile head start... ... ... ... ... ... I think he knew I would not take his offer even though I would love to shut him up



Jim

 

[J.Davy]

JEly, I would go for it,I just traded my 03 2500 with a 6 speed in for a new one,your auto is even faster as the six is about. 71 or . 72 O. D. . and the auto is . 69 O. D. If you cut your speed limiter wire your speed with those big tires would be 135 m. p. h. @3434 r. p. m. if they measured 34" tall. I cut it on my 03 and gained alot of speed. Could hit 3450 r. p. m. in 6th gear .

 

[robertyoke]

why is the race for 1 mile?? your truck is speed limited to 110 so that is about the same as racing with a trailer... stupid. I like idea of a race in the snow!

some kid tried to race my WRX with his cobra, it was raining and with all wheel drive the subie just walked away, and he just sat and spun.

 

[flimmy]

Tell him you will race if you can pick the last 100 ft. Just make the last 100ft mud. :-laf

 

[Wheezy]

I own a modded 03 Cobra (Same thing as an 04)



Most quarter mile times are going to range from mid 12's to low 11's, depending on traction and driver. After the 1/4 mile is where your gonna' have a problem. I have never owned a car that pulls this hard up top...



I will try to get a video of how hard it pulls. . Can anyone host it?



John

 

[JEly]

Like someone said earlier my chances would be far better if we raced and when I got to the 1/4 mile mark he started... ... ... ... ... I would be up to or close to being to top speed and he would be just starting. If we both started from a dead stop... ..... me being a 1/4 mile up the road I think he would be waiting for me at the finish line.



Jim

 

[KYLE4]

Thats tough 385 hp supercharged v8 weight difference I don't know if I would be willing to bet the money but it would be a fun attempt

 

[DaveMorris]

Well did he say he would race you, or your truck??? If he said race you, then give a call out on the race forum and get one of those TRD guys to meet you there with one of thier trucks instead :-laf ... Heck at the last dyno pull here in STL, a guy spun his upto 145MPH during the dyno pull (man that truck was screaming)... now if you had that 1/4 running start and could do 145 then I think you might have a chance... .



The numbers thrown out earlier mentioned your truck doing 92 at the end of a 1/4 mile... I think (unless you are modded) you will be more like mid 80's and that would make a big difference in calculations...



See if he will do it for a case of beer or something... . but my other question is, where would you be able to do this race with even a hint of safety involved???? at 175 I wouldn't want to be within 3 blocks of this guy, much less in the other lane passing me 70 mph faster while I am doing 108mph, heck I was able to move / blow Semi's half a lane passing them at 140ish and they where probably doing 60, with a little car like that mustang (in my crazy years)... the wind pressure along may litterly blow you off the road...

 

[Patriot_RAM]

J. Davy -- Speed limiter wire? What speed limiter wire? *smile*



I don't think you'd take the Cobra if it's modded, just my $0. 02.

 

[Blakers]

Are there bombed 12 valve trucks on here that could take him? I mean starting dead even for a 1/4 mile?

 

[MichaelWright]

Tell him to give you the 1/4 mile head start, but you want a mile and a half and up the bet to a grand. By a mile and a quarter, the Ford engineering should kick in. He'll probably break a rod or melt the turbo, you win!



Ford did not design the Mustangs, of any model or year, to handle over 70 mph. That is right from Dearborn, many unhappy Mustang owners out there with blown engines who were "racing". I know, I used to paruse the engine plants where the 4. 6's are cast and assembled for a few years.



Found On Road Dead ring a bell? Sometimes First On Race Day, but not usually attributed to "factory" parts or engineering.



Mike

 

[Big MAK]

I 1/4 at 99mph; 15. 24sec; TST on 5/5 (best) -- avg was 98 in 15. 4. Before I had twin turbos; so only getting 38lbs of boost.



I beleive that after reaching top speed you can ease off the throttle to keep from melting things down; it'll hold top speed at about 80% throttle -- running nice and cool. I've only run top speed for an extended period since I put twins on; I -think- (don't know for sure) that'll be true for a non-twin. Try it on open road sometime before putting money on it.



I ran top speed on a wide open interstate (I absolutely don't believe in weaving thru traffic) giving a BMW 3 series a hard time. The poor guy couldn't hang with me. About 5 minutes at 108; 1200 degrees on the EGT. Paying very close attention to the radar detector and the road ahead! The bonehead came blasting up behind me and rode my bumper while I was cruising by a semi; so I let him by; then bumped the TST up; ran back by him; left him in a cloud. Gave him a nice wave when he went by; eventually; when the traffic looked like it would tighten up and like I said; I don't weave thru traffic (that's the difference between fast and stupid IMO).



Just pointing out I -think- the CTD can hold top speed at less then WOT; i. e. cooler running. But I didn't try it before having twin turbos so I don't know for sure.



Also; we've heard from a member (John) that has a Cobra. If it does pull really hard at the top end it may be doing 175 sooner then the half mile marker; which could put it ahead. That could be compensated if the CTD can top out at a faster speed (no limiter).



John; is the published top speed of 175 governored or is it a physical limit -- physical limit = no more gear; pegged tach; can go no faster.



Hey; it's winter; may as well bench race! Oo.

 

[JEly]

This doesnt do me any good but I'm pretty sure the Cobra tops out at 155 mph by the computer... ... ... ... ... now if bypasses that who knows how fast it will go.



Jim

 

[OT-OF-HERE!!]

Racing the Cobra!!!

Tell him you'll give him the 1/4 mile advantage and race a mile!!! Hook up butt to butt with a log chain and see who gets there first. Oo. Oo.



By the way, my cut is a medium rare Porterhouse.

 

[Heavyweight]

MichaelWright, are you being funny? First, the Mustang is Supercharged, no Turbo. Second, All Ford V8's are very durable. The motor in question is stout. They have a beefed bottom end that can handle 600-700HP easy. So what is this Bullcrap about 70MPH? That is a joke! Oo. :-laf

 

[Tim]

Are there bombed 12 valve trucks on here that could take him? I mean starting dead even for a 1/4 mile?

Yes, there are. If you had twice as much power as he has, and the gears to drive 140-150 MPH, there's no way he'd ever catch you, given the head start.

 

[MichaelWright]

MichaelWright, are you being funny? First, the Mustang is Supercharged, no Turbo. Second, All Ford V8's are very durable. The motor in question is stout. They have a beefed bottom end that can handle 600-700HP easy. So what is this Bullcrap about 70MPH? That is a joke! Oo. :-laf

No "crap" involved. I used to work for Ford as a sub-contractor. It was a well known internal policy when it came to warranties and hi-pro Ford vehicles, that excessive speed is not covered under warranty. And excessive speed is anything over the posted speed limit. Not me, Ford. Imagine that!



As far as a new factory Ford motor being able to handle the HP you claim... LMAO! I worked in the plants that cast the block in Windsor Ont, and the final assembly plant in Brookpark OH (Cleveland Engine Plant), and the motor assembly in Lima OH. The motor is a joke, even the assembly guys have admitted that much. Sure they try, but they can only build a motor with the parts they get, most of which are from China and Mexico. And trust me, they are not to the highest quality, I have seen the tons of scrap first hand. And I have heard many an assembler about the poor quality of these imported parts, you know, the guys building the motors. And then there are the engineers that designed all of this stuff, which is another story. And yes, I do know a few of these guys personally.



Mike

 

[qzilla]

Ok heres the deal... ... ... I work with a guy that is a HUGE FORD fan and he has a 04 Cobra with a few mods and he has "offered" me a race and here is the deal... ... ... ... ... ... ... We will race for 1 mile----he will give me a 1/4 mile head start what do ya think my chances would be.

Oh yea he wants to make it for $500 bucks.

I think my truck has some giddyup but just not enough to last a mile.



Thanks

JIM

A stock 04 Cobra would kill you in the 1 mile race. You are going to be limited to about 112 mph at best. You would have a better chance going from a roll in teh 1/4, but those cars are dang quick! I have one. A modded car would stomp you so bad that it would hurt your feelings.



These trucks are great and I am not downing your truck, but those cars, the new vettes and vipers are sick.



Quad

 

[MarStock56]

Keep your money

If I worked with this guy, I would run him with what my truck tows; but not with my truck. Either he is looking for a sucker and some easy cash, or he thinks that you will be goaded into running him with your truck; believe me, you wouldn't stand a chance against his Cobra... ... Now if he wanted to run his nice shiny Cobra against an old '67 Ford GTA Fairlane anytime... tell Scooter to drop a line and maybe we can haul the old girl out with the Diesel and give him a run that will embarrass his pony and his friends.

Mark S.



Confucius says: Never run car against old street cars without knowing what's under the hood!! Oo. Oo.

 

[qzilla]

No "crap" involved. I used to work for Ford as a sub-contractor. It was a well known internal policy when it came to warranties and hi-pro Ford vehicles, that excessive speed is not covered under warranty. And excessive speed is anything over the posted speed limit. Not me, Ford. Imagine that!



As far as a new factory Ford motor being able to handle the HP you claim... LMAO! I worked in the plants that cast the block in Windsor Ont, and the final assembly plant in Brookpark OH (Cleveland Engine Plant), and the motor assembly in Lima OH. The motor is a joke, even the assembly guys have admitted that much. Sure they try, but they can only build a motor with the parts they get, most of which are from China and Mexico. And trust me, they are not to the highest quality, I have seen the tons of scrap first hand. And I have heard many an assembler bit-h about the poor quality of these imported parts, you know, the guys building the motors. And then there are the engineers that designed all of this stuff, which is another story. And yes, I do know a few of these guys personally.



Mike

SVT engines are not built on an assembly line. They are hand built and have very good internals. They will easily handle 500rwhp on a stock bottom end as an everyday driver. They will handle 600-650 maybe 700rwhp on a stock bottom end if they have a conservative tune and run on race gas. A lot of those engine have been hurt at 600+ ponies trying to run pump gas and not monitoring a/f ratio.



Just a little info. The normal Mustang motors may be junk?? I have no idea, but the SVT engines are as good as they get from any factory.



Quad