I guess I'm missing something, are you guys talking about the straps to strap the seat down or are you talking about the Latch that comes in the vehicle that you attach the strap to. Vic R these then sound like where the strap would connect. I just bought 2 new car seats and they came with the straps to hook to the buckle type things your talking about. These car seats are meant to be used without the seat belt, to be used with the Latch system instead. But they also can use the seat belt. I plan to purchase the proper equipment to use the Latch system because it is much more secure and easier to get the seat tight. Any way later... .....