Recall:Out of park alarm 2005

[DFark]

I received a recall on my 2005 Ram 3500 SRW automatic to install an out of park alarm. Being a safety concious owner I figured I would install all updates as they come out. So I take it in to Gollings (Dayton OH) and it is an update on the Computer. My advice to anyone is do NOT have this update installed on your truck!!

Now my horn blasts evertime I dont have the truck in park with the engine running, (I always set the brake anyway) but the worst part is when I am backing up to hitch a trailer and the door is open , and in reverse, the horn blasts about every 3 seconds until I either put the truck in park, or shut the door. I am not opposed to a light or chime, but horn blasting is just driving me nuts. The dealer never told me it would cause the horn to blow, at worst I thought it would be the seat belt chime. I am now fighting with the dealer to try to uninstall this update. Any one else run into this yet??

Doug Fark

 

[ROCKJEEP]

Don't waste your time trying to get it off your truck. It is a safty recall and they can't remove it. if they removed it and your truck poped out of gear and rolled into someone they could be held responcable.

 

[Jeepr]

I considered not having it done on mine, but it is part of the software upgrade, so if I ever wanted software/flash upgrades then it would be in there.



However, I'm disappointed, because the people with 2006's seem to report they can keep theirs from honking by either fastening their seatbelt or clicking the emergency brakes a few clicks. That doesn't seem to work on my recall fixed 2005.

 

[MCrossley]

I got lucky

had mine done and it does not do what it is supposed to and I am not complaining! But the first time it did wipe out my FCM so they had to replace it, apparently it has done it on some trucks according to chrysler... .

 

[brods]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157558&highlight=recall



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155110&highlight=recall



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154369&highlight=reverse+alarm

 

[brods]

I considered not having it done on mine, but it is part of the software upgrade, so if I ever wanted software/flash upgrades then it would be in there... ...

Where did you get that info? The E17 flash is for the instrument panel computer and apparently done differently than a ecm flash, so how would not doing the E17 recall prevent the ecm from being upgraded in the future?



BTW have you found anything other than riding the brake that prevents the alarm while the door is open?

 

[CGuy]

FYI, I just had my '04 in the shop last week for 23K service and state inspection. When I dropped off the truck, I asked the service advisor to have the technician enable the manual idle option thru the cruise control. She looked at me like I had three heads but I told her to just type it onto the work order the way I stated it. At the same time she told me that the safety recall for the auto trans alarm was showing up on her computer as still outstanding. I told her that I did NOT want that fix applied. She was okay with that and just required me to sign her original work order when I picked up the truck with a note stating that I had "refused" that recall. She also asked me to send in the card from the recall mailing stating my refusal. She said that way DC headquarters will update their records and it won't keep showing up each time I bring in my truck for service. Also, FWIW I noticed from reading the finished work order that the technician had a problem getting the "manual idle control" update to take and finally had to update the ECM "as per TSB #18-004-04" and then the update took. So my ECM was updated yet still no auto trans alarm enabled.

 

[OHale]

FYI, I just had my '04 in the shop last week for 23K service and state inspection. When I dropped off the truck, I asked the service advisor to have the technician enable the manual idle option thru the cruise control. She looked at me like I had three heads but I told her to just type it onto the work order the way I stated it. At the same time she told me that the safety recall for the auto trans alarm was showing up on her computer as still outstanding. I told her that I did NOT want that fix applied. She was okay with that and just required me to sign her original work order when I picked up the truck with a note stating that I had "refused" that recall. She also asked me to send in the card from the recall mailing stating my refusal. She said that way DC headquarters will update their records and it won't keep showing up each time I bring in my truck for service. Also, FWIW I noticed from reading the finished work order that the technician had a problem getting the "manual idle control" update to take and finally had to update the ECM "as per TSB #18-004-04" and then the update took. So my ECM was updated yet still no auto trans alarm enabled.

I wish I'd had the forsight to refuse the update. It rarely is a problem, but the other day I backed up to a feed store for some hay and got a horn honk as I got out of the truck. Irritating.



BTW, when they did the recall it disabled the high idle function. If you have had the recall done and had the high idle feature enabled make sure it is still active.

 

[Jeepr]

Where did you get that info? The E17 flash is for the instrument panel computer and apparently done differently than a ecm flash, so how would not doing the E17 recall prevent the ecm from being upgraded in the future?



BTW have you found anything other than riding the brake that prevents the alarm while the door is open?

Bummer, wish I had know that distinction, and I likely would have refused it also. And, as far as figuring out what might prevent it, such as riding the brake, I haven't taken time to experiment with it much. I just know that the seatbelt and e-brake trick didn't work the other day when I was trying to hook up my trailer. arrrggg.

 

[JohnCooper]

How about wiring a relay to the backup light the breaks the circuit to the horn when in reverse!

 

[Nine Ball]

How about wiring a relay to the backup light the breaks the circuit to the horn when in reverse!

hmmm, damn good idea! Or, just a toggle switch to turn the horns off.

 

[BStoecker]

Forget getting your dealer to uninstall the flash. They can't. This is mandated by DCX bean counters as a band-aid risk management ploy to prove that they "fixed" their ****ty engineering. I fought this as well after a dealership installed this without conferring with me first. My stance is that it is MY truck and that they don't have the right to touch anything I don't give them specific permission to touch. Yeah, right. They probably don't, but they have more lawyers and money than I do. And it would take a lawsuit in order to force them to remove this crappy "safety" recall. Just get used to it. You are stuck with it.

 

[RRoton]

I had mine in the shop last week to have the front differential pinion seal replaced.

They never mentioned the recall, and I didn't either.