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Several years ago I heard about a recall for the Remington 700 rifle. I tried to contact remington, no luck. I tried to research this on the internet, but didnt have any real luck either.



On the news tonight, they are talking about a safety issue with the trigger on the 700. Does anyone know about that ? If so, have you had any kind of repair to the trigger mechanism ?



TRat
 
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Remington 700 triggers

I have been using quite a few of those triggers over the years and found none that had issues. That doesnt mean they are failure free. Most of the time, someone has changed the adjustments. Many years ago, a friend had a Remington 725 . 300 H&H. That rifle would fire if you closed the bolt to smartly! He also has adjusted the trigger down past its safety capability!

I saw an "heads up" on that show and believe that it is a witch hunt. Here is a link for you to check out. GregH



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Several years ago I heard about a recall for the Remington 700 rifle. I tried to contact remington, no luck. I tried to research this on the internet, but didnt have any real luck either.



On the news tonight, they are talking about a safety issue with the trigger on the 700. Does anyone know about that ? If so, have you had any kind of repair to the trigger mechanism ?



TRat



I know one such case. It was a recall on the then new Stainless Remington Mountain rifle. It was in a certain serial number range, and the safety wouldn't fully disconnect the sear, so when you pushed it to safety and pulled the trigger, when you disconnected the safety, it would fire. I believe that was 1993-94. I don't believe there was an issue with them firing with the safety on. The 721 Remington's (the predecessors to the 700) were prone to this issue for several years, although I don't remember any safety recalls being issued for them. Most of the cause in the 721s were due to dirt being in the trigger groups. 700s use the same trigger group as the 721s, with a few updates, but are still prone to dirt misfires. If dirt doesn't allow the sear to move fully forward and be engaged by the trigger, it can easily be fired by slight jarring. Sometimes the safety will not fully engage when the sear is not fully engaged, resulting in a failure of both. I've seen many, many unsafe triggers over the years, that were worked on by "competent" gunsmiths... . If you want an 8oz trigger pull, don't expect it to come from a factory trigger. I won't adjust any of them below 1. 5 lbs, and even then only when they'll pass both drop and temperature change tests repeatedly. Most only go to 2. 5/3 lbs safely. My cousin (by marriage) the works in R/D at Remington doesn't like me very much. I always show up at Christmas with crap for him to look at that came out of "his" rifles..... I even gift wrapped some of it for him to take home a few years ago. :rolleyes: His dad loves it, him... not so much. :D



The problem is mass production and the bottom dollar. In the 60's, they had to compete with Winchester for market share, but now that they have a good market, they don't seem to care much for the customer after the sale. If you have a good dealer, they should take care of any serious problems and make Remington correct the problem. I had a . 308 I traded for a few years ago that would only close on about 7 out of 20 rounds per box of factory ammo. Ironically, most Remington ammo wouldn't even close in it. WHen I FINALLY got it back to the factory, and they FINALLY sent it back, they stated that it was within "factory" specs. The headspacing was . 045 too tight, and only lapua match brass, with the necks trimmed would fit in it. I took it off and opened it up to . 300 Win mag, and it actually shot fairly well on a squared long action. Don't you love economics?:-{}
 
First let me say I don't trust the News Media very much!!! The film I saw shows the rifle firing when finger obviously off the trigger and when engaging the safety. Some was Swat Teams(perhaps played with trigger pull) and Border Patrol I believe.

Bottom line in my own opinion and unmodified rifle should not fire when the trigger is not pulled!!! Supposedly(who knows) there is documentation dating back to the 40's a recall has been recommended and ultimately Remington decided against it. I have no bone to pick with them I like a lot of Remington products.

I do understand the Fathers attempt to have this corrected if it is true the last 10 years. I cannot even begin to imagine how it would be to lose a Son I believe from the Mothers rifle with her finger off the trigger. In all a very sad situation.
 
Early M-700, 721, 722 and 725 Remingtons

The big issue back in the 1970 time frame was the bolt! That lockup was fabricated in three pieces, with the body being seperate from the head with the locking lugs. The head slipped onto the bolt body and was silver brazed in place. There were reports of the head coming loose on the bolt body during lockup. The results were catastrophic to the shooter. I inspect my bolts regularly during cleaning. The next old Remington action I plan on building from will have a PT&G bolt! GregH
 
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I have more than my share of Remington Rifles and have never had Trigger issues in any of them. People like to tinker with guns and become self taught Gunsmith's:) and that is how people become maimed. My dad taught me one very important lesson about guns if your not sure of what you are doing DONT DO IT.
 
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