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I bought my V-10 new in 1998 because I didn't want the smell or noise of a diesel to pulll my 7,000 pound 5th wheel. Shortly after I bought it I began to hear stories that the V-10's were not holding up well. I live in an agricultural part of Montana where trucks tend to get used hard in an agricultural setting hauling cattle, equipment, etc. My V-10 was trouble free until about 32-33,000 miles when I developed a coolant leak that was finally diagnosed as two cracked heads at about 35-36,000 miles. At about 37,000 miles I threw a rod bearing while on vacation in Seattle area. I was told by the dealer there that they had problems with the V-10's, particularly cracking heads. They also told me they had seen a fair number of V-10's that had thrown rod bearings. Ultimately the engine was repaired under warranty. By then I had lost faith in a motor that was now out of warranty and had experienced problems at the top and bottom ends.



I got back to Montana and decided to succumb to the diesel urge. I was told by several dealerships that V-10's did not command a high resale price, in part, because the dealers had experienced problems primarily with bad heads. Overall, I was told by several Dodge dealerships that the V-10's were not holding up well.



I have forgotten the numbers I once knew that reflected what percentage of Dodge trucks had V-10's in them but I do remember that the Cummins was by far the most popular motor in the 2500 and 3500 trucks. I think the V-8's may have been the second most popular motor. In any event, the V-10 accounted for a small share of the 2500 and 3500 market. Given what I heard about the V-10 by dealerships from Seattle to Montana and given my own experience with the V-10 knowing that it commanded a small share of the market I think it is fair to say it was not the most popular motor ever produced. I doubt it has generated a following requiring the production of more V-10s to satisfy public demand. Locally I would be surprised if they command even 5% of the local Dodge market for 2500 and 3500 trucks.



I liked the truck until the motor proved untrustworthy. I got 8-10 mpg around town and could get 15 if I babied it in the highway. Most of the time I averaged about 12-13 driving 70-85 on the interstate. My cummins with EZ tows much nicer than the V-10 with the same exact transmission and rear end. Frankly, from my experience, the V-10 with a 3. 55 rear end needed the 6 speed transmission much more than the cummins for towing. The V-10 needed to run in high rpms in 3rd gear to hold Mountain passes while the cummins will hold the same passes in 4th gear easily.
 
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What a POS that Paxton was.



What kind of problems did you have with it? The reason why I ask is I have wanted to put one on my Mustang for quite awhile.



As far as the V-10 goes, when I purchased my truck in 96' I had wanted a cummins ram for a few years. Actually ever since the second gen. trucks came out. I liked that styling instantly, which is something I can't honestly say about the other gens. But that's just a personal preference thing. While I was at the lot I noticed a V-10 ram. It had that big aluminum intake manifold and boat loads of power. And it was only $400 more. I was tempted for a minute but quickly regained my bearings. As sexy as it appeared I knew that it had to be very thirsty, it wouldn't last nearly as long, and it would never have the resale value of the CTD. I have been very satisfied with my truck. Your friend won't be able to hurt the CTD, providing he does the proper maintenance. My only other suggestion would be to stay away from the auto transmission. Bone stock they're junk.





Mike
 
My advice is to look for a clean used 2001 or 2002 HO, 6 spd. Whether the V-10 was any good or not, the Cummins is a stronger engine and will last longer.

Dave
 
Never saw those problems in the dealer I worked at. granted not a lot of V10 came through but saw some with lots of hard work and miles. 150k plus. Saw a few intake leaks(coolant)but that was it. had some customers trade up the diesel and said the v10 had tons more get and go passing with the same loads etc. saw headgaskets leaking on Vipers,was a tsb on that. Lots V10 owners pulled heavy but only a few thousand miles a year and at a $400 option over a 360 was much better then a 454 chevy or 460 ford.
 
I loved my V-10!

There's an exception for every rule. My V-10 was great, right up until I sold it with 116,000 miles on it. I still see it every day--I sold it to a coworker, and he's still thrilled with it.



The only problem was the weak automatic transmission that couldn't handle the torque (new HO (if you can call 37,000 miles new--and it turns a year old tomorrow) has a six-speed :D )
 
The link to the dodge.com site is showing 2002 and 2003 towing guide. If you go to trucks and build/price, you'll see that if you choose 2004, the V-10 isn't an option. A 5. 7 HEMI and HO Cummins are the only options for 2004 until the 2004. 5s are added.

I've always wanted a V-10. I know they love gas and don't have the long life of a Cummins but, it's an engine that we'll never see as an option again. Chevy's 496cid would be a blast but I don't care for the looks or price. Ford's V-10 is small displacement. There is one V-10 powered 5spd 2500 left in our area. I'd sure like to have it but not at the cost of giving up my Cummins for it. If could afford both... :cool:
 
Howdy Bob,



Greetings from Moran. Any relation to Todd, Bob, Courtney, and the other Lander/Pinedale Skinners?



We have several V10 here to pull 8 horse trailers. They do a good job. We also just got three 03 Duramax (two 6 spds. one Allison) The folks who drive the DMs, and personally own CTDs, consider the Duramax to be wimpy POSs when it comes to taking off with an 8 horse trailer - no low end torque! One fellar HAD a Ford SD with the powerstroke. Good solid truck - too bad it didn't have a Cummins (his comment).



There are five personal CTD rigs (four of them 6 spd. ) and everybody loves em! We've had an opportunity to compare and recommend the CTD with 6 spd. with an exhaust brake.
 
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1) V10 was fast, Cummins w/ mods is faster.



2) V10 had great tq, Cummins has unbelivable tq



3) V10 could get 12mpg, Cummins can get 24mpg



4) V10 lasted 87,000 mi. , Cummins should last over 287,000 mi.



5) V10 depreciated a bit, Cummins hold it's value.







Burnt #2 piston 6 months before my preplaned ordering date. I would suggest him to step-up as much as possible, or be left out to dry.





JRG
 
Originally posted by Ol'TrailDog

Howdy Bob,



Greetings from Moran. Any relation to Todd, Bob, Courtney, and the other Lander/Pinedale Skinners?



We have several V10 here to pull 8 horse trailers. They do a good job. We also just got three 03 Duramax (two 6 spds. one Allison) The folks who drive the DMs, and personally own CTDs, consider the Duramax to be wimpy POSs when it comes to taking off with an 8 horse trailer - no low end torque! One fellar HAD a Ford SD with the powerstroke. Good solid truck - too bad it didn't have a Cummins (his comment).



There are five personal CTD rigs (four of them 6 spd. ) and everybody loves em! We've had an opportunity to compare and recommend the CTD with 6 spd. with an exhaust brake.



I don't have any relatives in Wyoming. I think I read about some Skinners in the Pindale area who were guides?



I think my buddy might have his Dodge V10 sold. He won't need a replacement rig until next spring but, if he's buying used, he'd better be on the lookout. It's going to be hard to find a clean, used ton 4x4 around here. I'm going to start researching the big three and try to get a handle on various makes strong and weak points. He has a 80's vintage 1 ton Ford crew cab 4x4 to drive now but needs another truck next year. He doesn't have any brand preference, just wants a truck that will make it through the season. Naturally, I did the sales job on the Dodge. One of the guys who works with him just bought a new ton, long box Chevy diesel with the Allison and he's pretty impressed with that truck. But, the Chevy doesn't have the ground clearance of the Ford or Dodge. A Ford 6. 0 diesel is not on the drawing board:)



Bob
 
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