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Since this truck is driven empty 99% of the time, it rides really rough on our local roads. After riding in my friends ‘04 4WD Cummins, which rides smoother than my 2WD, it was obvious that a change was necessary. I spent about 6 months evaluating other systems, reading anything on the TDR or other sites that would help. I was looking mainly at a way to smooth out the ride as well as control axle wrap during acceleration. Wheel hop is severe at times so this was an absolute must. I thought about adding the “assist” type air bags and removing a leaf or two, but then I would have to add traction bars to stiffen up the rear. I looked at the high quality 4 link “K” brand, but it was just more than I wanted to spend. In the end, the Roadtamer system looked like the best mix of ride & axle wrap control along with an acceptable price. This system was reviewed in the TDR mag issue #51.



I dealt with the manufacturer directly and their representative was always available and willing to answer my questions even before I bought the system. The system includes 2 beams, 2 air bags, a panhard bar, a 1 degree shim, 4 U bolts and Nuts and all tubing and fittings and hardware as well as an air compressor and auto-leveling sensor. No tank is used. Initially they sent the wrong Heim joint for the panhard bar, but after a phone call, the correct one was sent out UPS red. The system is capable of being “dumped” so that you can lower the bags completely. I wired up my own switch for system control. I do not leave it on normally because it will adjust frequently when changing from flat ground to uphill terrain. There is a built in 30 second delay before any height change is made when the system is on.



All the pieces of this system are very beefy and met my expectations for strength. Installation of the two beams is the easiest part. You just unbolt and remove your old springs and bolt the beams in place using the original front spring perch and bolt it to the axle. The rear perch is reused to attach the plate that forms the upper support of the air bag.



The difficulty comes when installing the upper bag supports and the panhard bar. There are self tapping bolts and shims included for the bag supports, but I made my own custom spacer blocks and had to drill completely through two of the holes because the self tappers stripped out in the frame. Snaking the nut into the frame rail was not too bad. I just tack welded a piece of wire to the nut and fed it through the nearest hole.



The panhard bar is the most difficult thing to install. It requires a 3/4” hole drilled in the inside of the left frame rail as well as two through 1/2” holes. The 3/4” hole only goes through the inside section of frame. A bushing goes through this hole and seats against the outside section. A 1/2” hole through to the outside continues from there. This method allows the bracket to be clamped securely to the frame rail without crushing it. When finished, there are three 1/2” bolts holding the bracket to the frame.



Pinion angle became a big deal. After three attempts to get the angle where it should be, I ended up with 1 degree shim on each side to roll the pumpkin down. 1 shim was included and the other had to be made on the Bridgeport.



Installation of the compressor and controls is described best by the photos. The compressor is in the right front wheel well. The remote air intake for the compressor is plumbed up inside the bed where the air is dryer and cleaner.

As part of this system, the manufacturer also recommended a set of Rancho 9000 shocks all around. They were set to the softest setting initially.



Installation took me roughly 2 Saturdays. Hurrying is not in my nature. This is definitely NOT a project to be done by someone without lots of tools and machinery.



Positive view after 30 days of use:



The ride is definitely smoother. The front is also noticeably softer with the ranchos. The rear is still not as nice as I was hoping for, however the reality is that it is much better than before. People can now ride in the back without getting bounced out of the seat.



Due to the stiffness of the beams, there is almost no body roll when going around a corner. I mean this truck does not lean at all. Feels like riding in a corvette when cornering. This system would be great for anyone that has a slide-in camper. I can corner at much greater speeds than before, with complete confidence in control.



The dump control is great for getting under a low trailer ball rather than cranking up the tongue and the truck always sits at the same height regardless of load.



Minuses:



Because of the design of this system, when you take off briskly (to the floor) as these Cummins are capable of doing, the suspension completely extends. In other words, as the wheels turn forward, the axle housing will roll backwards due to the torque reaction. This is really annoying because it will lift the back of the truck to the maximum extension of the bags. I made a gauge to measure this. The air bag extends 6” from its normal “at rest” position. That equates to about 3-1/2” of lift at the rear bumper. The biggest problem with this movement is the fact that the pinion rolls "up" and increases the angle beyond a safe limit. The truck vibrates considerably under hard acceleration.



The wheel hop problem, which easily occurs with this truck, gets really bad when going around a corner under moderate acceleration. It causes the back to violently buck up and down. I feel like a frog hopping down the street when this happens. Part of this is due to the worthless LSD. If one wheel starts spinning, the truck stops pulling, the truck comes down and grabs and then jerks forward and up and on and on.



Needless to say, this was an unacceptable condition. Besides compromising the drivability, it has to be hard on the drive train. The manufacturer says that they have only had one other person complain about this condition and it was on a 12 or 13 sec truck. They had no recommendation for a fix. I don’t think my truck is that fast either.



My solution was to put a set of Beard suspension limiting straps on, so that maximum travel of the suspension is controlled. These were installed this past weekend. I custom fabricated a bracket and welded it to the beam on each side. The top is just anchored in a hole in the top bag support plate. As of this writing, it has helped immensely, however I still have to tune the shocks to get maximum stiffness without hurting the ride. The rears are set to the middle setting right now. I can now take off in a straight line without wheel hop. In hindsight, this is probably not the best way to go to control axle wrap. I don’t really feel like I have this issue under control yet. However, it sure has helped smooth out the ride, and for that it is worth it. I will continue to improve this system if possible.



I welcome any questions or comments.



Jim
 
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Would a top link off the center of the diff help reduce the jacking of the rear suspension on take off? What about an old school pinion snubber? Or a lower "ladder bar" or bottom links to make it a 4 link?



Two places to look are the drive axles of an 18 wheeler, as they use very similar setup for suspension, ie International did in the '80s. Another place to look at is the offroaders or desert racers that use coil link suspension. Coil link suspension is susceptible to "jacking" on acceleration, like you are describing.



Very good write up. I hope that you can get the truck to ride like you want it to. Good luck.



Michael
 
the issue has alot to do with the lenght of the beams, they are short so they give the axle alot of leverage to lift up the rearend. if thy were longer, they would now let the axle twist as much or lift the rearend as much (if at all).
 
one other major issue i forgot to mention. the exhaust system needed to be modified behind the muffler. i had to cut off the pipe and extended it back 4" in order to miss the panhard bar. basically this just moved the hump over the axle back. then the tail pipe had to be re-angled to miss the air bag. i took the opportunity to make the last section of pipe from an old chromed piece. it looks good when it is clean. pics are in gallery.



incidentally , every metal part of the system and the truck undercarriage was painted with black anti-rust paint immediately after taking the pics.



the issue has alot to do with the length of the beams, they are short so they give the axle a lot of leverage to lift up the rearend. if they were longer, they would now let the axle twist as much or lift the rearend as much (if at all).



excellent point! if there were only a relatively easy way to move the front perches farther forward and lengthen the beams it would definitely help or even eliminate the lift problem.



as far as adding any other kind of control, like additional links or snubbers, i will investigate that. the problem i see initially is that the movement of this suspension system rotates in an slight arc as a normal function of travel. any device that would restrict rotation would also restrict necessary movement. a normal spring flexes in front of and behind the axle. the movement of the axle is purely up and down with no rotation (ideally).



thank you for the comments and i will try and put this info to good use.





jim
 
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Hey Jim, very good review. I am considering air in the future. It seems that lengthening the arms is the most effective solution. That would address the axle rise as well as the pinion angle variances. I'm remembering the suspension arms on the early 60's chevy P/U's with coil springs. They were at least 48" long. How difficult would it be to lengthen the arms in the kit?
 
the lengthening by itself would just be a matter of cutting and welding in a section. the beams are basically 2" x 4" x 1/4" thick, radiused corner tube. might even be able to get the manufacturer to make them up for you. just guessing on that.



i think the biggest problem would be relocating the front perches. there will probably be crossmember and stiffness issues as well. i will have to get under the truck and give it a serious look.



jim
 
Nice job Jim. I have highly considered this system for my truck... mainly for ride and level control. An honest talk with Air Lift made me pause as we offroad a lot (KORE Race suspension) but haul heavy. I like the effect for a camper but hesitant to wreck the independence of springs. Ride was improved with KORE mini-paks and Fox shocks and now I plan a dual airbag between frame and overload springs. This controls load on the springs and ride height while still giving me spring suspension. Will let all know how it goes. George
 
Nice Jim! The reason I asked someone to measure their spring perch, which you did for me, was to get a minimum distance I can between the perch and the axle to mount my air bags too for my own air ride!



I designed everything for a 2nd gen long bed, then redesigned a few for a 2nd gen shorty, then I went and bought a 3rd gen, so I am starting over on a lot of things.



Looks good!



Nick
 
redfuelrules:



i don't regularly pull any trailers. i do have a 6 x 12 cargo trailer that i use occassionally but have not used it yet since the air suspension went on. one thing i forgot to mention is that this system is really designed for the 3500 trucks. the reason the manufacturer does not sell these for the 2500's is they don't want you to think that adding this system will increase your load capacity. the capacity can not be legally increased however the right height can be controlled to look correct if you know what i mean.



nick:



glad to help out. i was under the truck last night to relocate the limit straps. i lowered them about 1" because the lower adjustment bolt was hitting the upper plate when the system was "dumped". i was able to cut 2" off of the bolts now that i know where it rides right.



i am very interested in how you implement your air ride. i hope you will post some pics when you get done.



i also adjusted all the shocks up last night and it seemed to help the ride this morning. it did not make it stiffer but it took out some of the bounce.



jim
 
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i also adjusted all the shocks up last night and it seemed to help the ride this morning. it did not make it stiffer but it took out some of the bounce.



jim



might be time to start thinking about 2 shocks per side in the rear then...



great review, sorry so many issues are coming up with it. i have though lang and hard about building an air ride setup for my short box, but then i remembered i work 6 days a week at 10 to 14 hours... not much time for much else when you add in 5 hours of sleep... :D
 
I'm in the process of designing for my shortbed, GWBourne. It is time consuming for sure. I will start another thread when I am closer to fabrication time!





Nick
 
With the improvements in ride and adjustability of ride height, it is a shame the Roadtamer system does not have better suspension geometry. Leaf springs on these trucks are terrible about hooking up and it seems the Roadtamer system may have made traction worse.



I think the instant center (center of axle rotation, where the ladder bar ties to the truck) needs to be farther forward and higher up. This is probably not achievable with a ladder bar setup - but it could be done with a 4 link setup. A longer ladder bar could be used to move the instant center closer to the front of the truck (as a partial fix). Still I think the instant center should be a good bit higher.
 
It is rather timely that you brought this thread back up, as I have been contemplating replacing the Roadtamer suspension system with the one I SHOULD have bought the first time but could not afford back then. Right now, the Heim joint in the panhard bar is bad and needs to be replaced. While this is minor, it is time to reevaluate my goal(s) for this truck.



BTW, this system is no longer offered by Airlift.



Your comment about moving the anchor point farther forward is right on the money for the Roadtamer system. The truck lifts significantly every time i take off from a stop. The most annoying problem though, is if you give it too much power going around a corner, it hops like a bunny rabbit as the inside tire grabs and slips. Because of the geometry of the support arm, the airbag moves a greater distance than the axle and this reduces the airbag "cushion" zone. Thus a firm ride.



The Kelderman system (the one I should have bought) is a 4 link and places the air bags right over the axle. it looks as though this system has been slightly re-engineered since the first time I evaluated full air suspension systems. However, the front anchor point for the 4 link is still at the existing front spring perch. I am not sure if this is good enough and am looking for comments from anyone familiar with this system.



Ultimately, I never achieved the ride quality I was looking for. I could probably achieve what i want by going back to the leaf springs, remove a few leaves and add traction bars and add air bag assist over the springs to level the truck.



I know this is a 3/4 ton truck, but i have been in other brand 3/4's that rode smoother than mine.



For what i use my truck for, a 1/2 ton setup would be sufficient and the new coil setup on the RAM with LONG control arms are a much better setup and reminds me of the 70's Chevy/GMC pickups. If this setup could be retrofitted to an 04 truck, it would be really nice.



I really haven't decided what to do and any costly change will be a tough sell to the wife!



Jim H
 
I don't really know how much these Kelderman kits go for, but if I remember right, they're a little pricey.

I tried several routes with my suspension as well, and have finally hit upon something that works wonderfully for every situation!!!

In short, the rear consists of the followings things:
Carli full replacement leaf springs, Carli long travel air bags, Carli 4" rear hydraulic bumps, and Lazarsmith traction bars. In addition, I'm running the Carli 2. 65 Bilstein shocks.

The Carli leaf springs offer a GREAT ride for daily driving and mild offroading. The long travel air bags allow for light to moderate load leveling without hindering suspension travel at all.

The traction bars in addition to the valving in the 2. 65s really eliminate hopping completely, even at the 600+ hp level sled pulling, etc.

The 4" rear bumps come into play when hauling HEAVY or hitting things offroad with a little more enthusiasm. The rear bumps can be adjusted via Nitrogen pressure up to 400 psi. These act similarly to the factory overload springs, but offer adjustable compression and ALOT better ride as well.

Here's a picture of the bumps:
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You can also see the air bags here with the bumps:
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This has really allowed this truck to be a true all purpose rig, being pushed in every direction harder than most people ever get involved in.

Here I had the entire bed full of heavy tools as well as red oak firewood. I was also pulling double trailers, and had 2500 lbs of tongue weight!!!
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The truck squatted a few inches, and never missed a beat!
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Here I was hauling 2 forklifts for my brother... although they look small, the weight on the trailer was over 16,000 lbs! Again, truck did great...
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Then, when it turns to "play time", or the road gets a little rough, the suspension really begins to shine. It's absolutely amazing, that the harder you push this kit, the better it begins to ride! My truck is heavy (over 9,000 lbs empty), and yet it rides so smooth! Even in activities like below, my cup never comes out of the cup holder!!!

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This is just a small activity (don't have pictures of the big stuff I've pulled) where I've jerked HARD on the truck with no axle hop:
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I know everyone doesn't put their trucks through what I do, but this system really can do it all and do it comfortably... and I'm not sure it's much more than a Kelderman or other high end air system.

I do know that having a system like this has literally saved me in MANY encounters that I could not have planned for... and has saved me a TON of money as well. I have hauled unbelievably heavy, had to encounter fast offroad situations, pull out people stuck, would have been stranded in a blizzard when I slid of the interstate down a hill and into a creek, etc. I have never been stuck, and have never been able to find the limits of this system yet.

Something to consider...

--Eric
 
I also have air ride on my 2WD dually with a Cummins. The rear HD air bar suspension is manufactured by Air Ride Technologies and is four link design with uneven links. A spacer is placed between the driveshaft carrier bearing and the original mount to compensate for the lower ride height.

Forward portion of the air bag is about 3” behind the rear axle with the top of the air bag mounted flush with the bottom of the frame. The panhard bar is located at the rear of the differential.

I have not encountered lift at the rear on hard acceleration you mention. In your pictures it appears your air bag sits quite some distance to the rear of the axle.

Many years ago, I tried rear facing traction bars on one of my drag cars. The result was it kicked up the rear of the car resulting in a loss of weight transfer. The extra distance from the axle to the air bag may be acting as a lever to raise the rear of your truck.

My rear suspension problem is bounce on very rough desert roads in Arizona. I am going to try a shorter rear shock from Edelbrock (self adjusters) to limit the travel and hopefully lessen bounce. The ride is 100% better with air bags than OEM with helper springs on the rear.

The front air bags are an entirely different story. The air bags that came with the Air Ride Technologies setup would not raise the Cummins up to a reasonable ride height, even with 120+ psi in the bags. It would bottom out on the Rancho 9000 shocks. The original front bags were rated at 3150 lbs, I installed a set of 3800 lb. bags. These were installed with much cutting of the upper spring pocket and outer ends of under-engine cross member; reengineering and relocating brackets; plus reengineering the shock mounts. The front bags now carry between 50 and 60 psi, with reasonable ride height, and does not bottom out on the shocks.
 
DShore... the offroad hop/washboard issue is cured with the shocks like Eric has... or smaller Fox like I have (through KORE). It takes that to control the viscious cycling.



Eric... wow! I have a KORE Race from T-Rex days... but I haul heavy and run back country. Had a 15K# lift only get the truck and camper 2" off the ground in Tucson the other day (fixing ABS sensor LF wheel). I did the soft spring set but wrecked em. Went back to stock plus 2 long leafs and two more overloads. I had crushed my airbags. The truck is about 9700 empty, camper and ammo (I mean water) make another 4500 to 5K. I have avoided a sway bar for offroad sake. Still run the 2. 5 Fox shocks. Brought front springs back down... too high with load. It is working now... but still not perfect.



I have dreamed of a bump stop like you have. I have built many convoluted solutions to empty/full issues. I wonder if you could carry 5K easily with your set up.
 
I have dreamed of a bump stop like you have. I have built many convoluted solutions to empty/full issues. I wonder if you could carry 5K easily with your set up. <!-- google_ad_section_end --> <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

I've never had that much in the bed before, but I've had a rear axle weight of 8,600 before because of a few thousand in the bed plus HEAVY tongue weight... and it did great!

I also got the Carli sway bar, and it really gives the best of both worlds... great articulation on the slow stuff, and control on the high speed!

I've wasted alot of money on suspension by trying to save money... I'm learning to do it right once and not look back!

--Eric
 
I WAS buying the best but that was 5 years ago... lots of improvements and you have captured the lot. I checked that sway bar... it is for the front! That twisted my head. I wonder if they have a similar one for the rear. Did you notice flatter cornering with the front sway?



Regarding the load... you were pretty squatted in those pics. Maybe you could have aired up more in your bags. I ride level at 15K, 33" Nittos, stock wheels. Tires get warm but not too much. Amazing really. Did the 19. 5's but too heavy... poor rebound. Like a steel train wheel. Back to light weight that cycles faster. Like to move up a couple inches to bear more weight. Tell me about the sway bar! Thanks, George
 
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