2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Rotation wear question

[Pit Bull]

I have a dually with 8K miles on it. Based on advise from other dually owners I was going to "not" rotate and just let them wear. All of the tires are wearing flat and about equally with 8K miles on the truck except for the front drivers side and it is wearing a little uneven on the outside tread. I run 65lbs in the fronts and 40lbs in the rears. What I was thinking about doing since I only have 8K miles on these tires is to put the spare on the drivers side front where the one tire is wearing a little unevenly and see if the spare wears better. If it does then I will not rotate and see if the good even wear continues. Anybody see any problem with my plan??? Thanks for your advice in advance.

 

[jrollins]

sounds like a plan to me, i personally don't rotate mine but it each his own and i surely don't blame you for trying to save a buck. Keep in mind though if you run a dulley empty allot (no load on the truck) its not uncommon to see funny patch wear.

 

[AMF]

Dude!Iam running 80 psi front 70 psi rear. rotate @ 5,000 miles and rotate spare also. Iam not looking for a blast , but I gota say man you you need Air.



3500 2002 6x6

 

[illflem]

65 front 45 rear for me empty. Jack the pressure up 20 psi on both ends when hauling. No rotation, no problem.

 

[Pit Bull]

Thanks for the replys. My air pressure seems to be OK for how I drive it. Like I said wear is even on all but that one tire. I suspect that the one with uneven wear is not balanced as well. I have alway found that the best balance job you ever get is from the factory. That is why I wanted to try the spare and see if it wore evenly. Like mentioned it is a cheap and easy fix if it works. Just like changing a flat. Looks like rain here today and tommorrow so I will give it a try Monday. On my 2000 3500 4x4 with the Michelin LTX/MS's. I started rotating and rebalancing every 5-6K miles and started having wear problems. I do like the solid shoulder tread patteren better on these Goodyears. Reminds me of the Michelin XPS Rib thread pattern but with more of a snow/rain pattern. I would like to get 40K out of these OEM Goodyears before I upgrade to the Michelin XPS Tractions

 

[MAllred]

I haul a lot and run 72PSI front, 62PSI rear and don't change when load status changes. Also rotate them every 10k. I got 134,000 out of the original Michelins! -- 99. 9% highway driving of course...

 

[illflem]

Should have also mentioned I use Counteract Self Balancing tire beads. One the best products I've ever found thanks to TDR. 80k on Toyo M-55s, looks like they'll easily make 100k.



http://wheelweights.ca/balancing-beads.htm

 

[Pit Bull]

Switched the spare with the tire that was wearing funny. The offending wheel had a lot of weight on it both inside and outside the rim. I hope this will fix it so I don't need to ever rotate.



Thanks

 

[yogibear]

Bill, where did you get your Counteract Beads? I checked out their site, and they don't have a dlr. or dist. list. Do you loose any when you have a flat fixed? Their FAQ did not cover that. TIA,



Larry

 

[illflem]

Larry, I bought my Counteract from a Montana tire chain called Six Robblee's. Here a link to other US distributors http://counteractbalancing.com/mapus.htm



There's another brand of balancing beads, don't remember the name, that can't handle moisture, you have to fill your tires with dried air, too much hassle for me so I went with Counteract. Les Schwab popped my tire beads and dumped it in, all the guys in the shop gathered round the balancing machine skeptical. I almost thought they were right until after 10 seconds the tire went to perfect balance and stayed there. One of my tires was so off balance before that it had weights rowed up on both side of the rim, no more.



I haven't had a flat so I can't answer that question but I did buy two extra bags for the glovebox just in case.

 

[shendren]

Bill,

so, you don't need wheel weights on the outside? also, do you only need this type of balancing if carrying heavy loads? i don't haul much. would this be advisable?

 

[illflem]

Scott, you don't need any weights or balancing at all. The beads can be used on any tubeless tire.

 

[Shovelhead]

A point to remember when using either Counteract, or Equal (the "other" brand) is demand the proper valve stem cores be installed when these products are added.

The special cores have a screen/filter that prevents the beads from being expelled and getting caught in the sealing ring of the valve core.

They didn't use them on mine and after I checked my tire pressure, next morning I had two flat tires. #@$%!



Other than that, mine are

 

[illflem]

I didn't know about the special valves and noticed a hiss once after airing down. My solution has been to clear the valve with a shot of air, works just fine but then you need an air source. The valves are a good idea, only cost a couple bucks each.