Rust in my paint!

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I took delivery in of my white Y2k in January and have been lazy and just bought it to the car wash until this weekend. After washing it and getting ready to put on a coat of wax I noticed rust spots all over the truck! I am not happy and don't know how to approach the dealer on this. It looks like there was ground metal shavings in the paint when they sprayed it. They are tiny specks randomly around the truck. The wax I put on buffed out the small rust stains but I think it will come back in time. Has anyone seen this. One person mentioned to me that it is from the brakes on the trains used to ship the trucks. He said the hot metal from the rails flies up and embeds in the paint. That made sense until I spotted the same thing it the door jams to. Help #ad
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y2k 2500 QC SLT+
3. 54, Automatic, Rhino Liner, every option except camper

 

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Um have you seen the railcars those badboys get shipped in??? Hot metal from the brakes of the railcar? That is absolutely hilarious. I don't have any experience with your problem but I doubt that it was the "brakes" on the railcar. This should be a good story for work tommorrow.

Was gonna post a picture of the new railcars but can't find them on the UP website (I just saw them the other day!) Anyhow hope you get some replies on your problem.

 

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I take it you mean that the rail cars are totally sealed. I've never seen one. How would metal particles get embedded in fresh paint? I atke it they don't have a clean environment at the factory then.

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y2k 2500 QC SLT+
3. 54, Automatic, Rhino Liner, every option except camper

 

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No they are not completely sealed but they are very "closed" in mainly because of thieves. I just find it very unlikely that the particles from the brakes could get up inside the railcar as the wheels are completely under the car. Its difficult to explain which is why I wanted to show you a picture.

 

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Some of the railed in vehicles we get at the dealership have some rail dust show up after a while. Guess it takes a while for the particals to rust. If your dealership has a body shop they can take care of it fairly painlessly. If they do not have a body shop then they should have one that does their warranty paint repair. I honestly don't know where the particals come from but it only happens when the vehicles are railed in and there is a fail code in the warrant labor operations book for rail dust.

 

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I of course could be worng! #ad
It just don't seem logical is all, considering the millions of doallars the rails carry in auto's. But I have neve been on the "recieving" end of the railcar so maybe there is some truth to it?

If theres is I must say that sucks!

 

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I have a friend with a 1year old white lexus that is doing the same thing. They claim brake dust.

 

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It's rail dust! They can wash it out, it just shows up more on white vehicles. I think it is some kind of acid wash.

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'00 2500 QC SLT+, Loaded -cab lights, 3. 54 lsd, Auto, Camper, Trailer Tow, Leather

 

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Is your truck white? I had the same problem with mine, complained to the dealer who "explained" it was polution and effected the white paint more than any other color. They offered to do an acid wash to "correct the problem". I was wary of dealer's 18 year old car wash jokey fooling with my truck and the clear coat! Took it home used wax cleaner then "clay magic" to really clean down to the paint, user "mothers" products and applied 3 coats of wax after all prep work. Almost 1 year later no problem, took sat & sun good 10 - 12 hours work, but pleased with results.

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1999 3500 quad cab, auto aero fendor trim and running boards,
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Thanks for your replies. I agree with you. I don't trust an acid wash. I don't care how safe and effect it is. It just doesn't sound good. I will try another coat of Mothers and see if the rust returns.

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y2k 2500 QC SLT+
3. 54, Automatic, Rhino Liner, every option except camper

 

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Sounds like Industrial Fall out comes from the trains and Industrial pollution in Mexico. The two trucks I have 1988,1995,Both from Mexico have it. DONT machine buff. It will drive the metal dust into the paint and it will be there for ever. That happed to the 88 model. The 95 model has been cleaned with clay but the rust always comes back after a while . Both trucks are white. If you dont keep it waxed the rust specks will start to fleek off after a while takeing paint with it.

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The rust spots can be rail dust. I have the same problem. After it is cleaned the first time it returned. Old vehicles had asbestos brakes pads. The new ones have all metal brake pads. This is the cause of the rust spots(Hot metal particle from metal to metal contact). They all get the rust spots. White is the worst. I had my truck paint protected and still have the problem. I clean my truck witth a clay magic product. Have fun cleaning you truck.

 

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You may want to try a different initial product rather than Mothers. Go to your local paint supply store (PPG or DuPont) and ask for Strata 1000. This is a mild abrasive compound that contains no wax. It is often used to remove 1000 to 1500 grit sanding scratches in commercial shops. After you complete the application and removal of the Strata, use a good quality finish polish such as Meguires. These products aren't cheap, but the best products seldom are.
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'99 Sport 3500 Quad Cab 4X4 /A. T/3. 54 Red w/Downey Cover, Ultra Boards, K& N Filter, DD Stage I Injectors, 4" Exhaust, Pyro/Boost/ Trans Temp.

Towee: '00 American Star 10,000# 5th wheel.

If it ain't a Diesel (Cummins), it ain't a real truck!

 

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Thanks for all the advise. It looks like some rust was on the surface which a mild abrasive should take off. My biggest fear is that some of the rust specks I spotted appear to be very deep. I looks like its a small chunk of metal that is embedded all the way through the paint to the primer. I don't think that will come out. I think the only way to handle it is to keep it waxed. Here in New England the salted roads will make quick work of this flawed paint. I guess I will take it to the dealer. This way at least it will be on record that I had this problem. If I can help save someone else from this it's worth the trip. Who knows, maybe they will actually do something that helps fix the problem. Don't know what to make of it. I've never owned a new vehicle that had any factory flaw worth reporting. I think I'll wait a little while for the rust specks to show up stronger again and then bring it in. I'll let you know what they advise me.

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y2k 2500 QC SLT+
3. 54, Automatic, Rhino Liner, every option except camper

 

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It is rail dust. Do not use an electric buffer, there is a special rubbing clay to clean it up. Take it back to the dealer they were supposed to do it.

 

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HE HE dont worry they just repainted my cab for the same thing. Dodge is aware of it and it happens to the red ones the most. Pisses you offf to have a new truck that has been repainted doesn't it. That will lower the value by about 10%...

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I was told by a dealership in Vermont, that it was caused by iron diposits in a new ice melt that was being used on the highways. The iron sticks to the clearcoat but will buff out. It makes sense, since the spots seemed to only show up in areas exposed to the elements.

 

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use the clay products, small piece at a time knead and throw away clay frequently, use a liquid wax such as meg. final inspection or wipeout, use these liquids instead of water, NOTE knead the clay and throw away piece frequently, it will act like a dirty towel with metal in it, then polish with swirl remover, with a rotary buffer and the a coat of meg. number 7 then wax preferebly meg. 20 or 26 your labor will be well worth the time i know i own a detail shop. good luck and patience. B... ...

 

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Get a clay bar and rub the stuff off,why take a chance of rubbing thru the clear coat,unless you are experienced,machine buffer. I had these speck's on a 97,Driftwood,came off pretty easy. You can take it to the dealer,they take off the speck's ,it comes back with a big door ding,this is a no brainer.