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2500 QC 4x4 6-speed running 265's(see sig).
Pretty heavy bow on this thing. Does anybody have tips/techniques for driving in deep sand (Beach sand). I've heard to drop tires to 20-25 psi. Should I load bed with some weight to even weight distribution?
Any pointers appreciated, I don't have experience with pickups on sand and plan to do lots of fishing on coast. Don't wanna be the guy stuck with a flashy new truck #ad

Thanks!
Jack

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'01 2500 QC ST 4WD SWB, Patriot Blue/Agate.
DEE/ETH, Trailer-Camper-Plow, 3. 54 LSD, rear-slider, cab-lights, 265's.
 
The key to beach driving is momentum. Don't be timid and try to keep from spining the wheels. The idea is to get some speed up so you can float on top of the sand. Less air in the tires makes for more flotation since the tire is soft and the width increases as the tire sinks into the sand. If the going is pretty rough stay above the high tide mark. That way if you get stuck you have time to get out. The less weight the better. Make sure you have a tow strap. The best gadget to take along is a buddy in another 4X4. #ad


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Joe George
Eureka, CA

'95 2500 CC auto 4X4,Combo EGT/boost guage,custom switch panel,PacBrake,TST #5,BD valve body,Automatic motorhome steps on both sides,Foldacover hard bed cover,Cummins chrome kit,Black steel grill guard,Front hitch receiver
 
Don't air down too low if you ever switch to 16. 5 wheels, they'll come right off. Air pressure is all that keeps em' on the rim. Momentum works or BOMB it and put paddles on; that works too!

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99 2500 4x4,quad cab,lwb,black sport,4. 10lsd,5-speed,everything but leather,5" Tuff Country suspension lift chromed,3"body lift,38"Ground Hawg radials,16. 5x12 American Eagle wheels,K&N. VA box
2000 24' Weekend Warrior
97 Yamaha Banshee
 
Also try not to turn to sharp and don't stop unless you can face down hill. Joe Gs'remark about staying above the high tide mark is very wise. Years ago I had a contract to recover rental vehicals in the Cabo san Lucas area,most got stuck in the sand,tide came in, took them out and filled them with sand-we used a CatD-7 to pull them out,the rigs were totaled. It's also a good idea to carry five or six 2X6s four feet long and a high lift jack.

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jacko,
I read somewhere that mud and snow tires are worse in the sand as they will dig in and help get you stuck. If I was going to "sand it" alot, I would seriously consider some very smooth sand tires. My experience is with dune buggies and outside of paddle tracks the big round smooth tires (the less edge the better)work the best. Bansai the deep stuff!
Good Luck,
Ron
 
Jacko,

I just got back from Avon, NC (Outer Banks). Did a lot of sand driving while there. Close to 100 miles during the week. Knock on wood, never got stuck. Did see a Jeep Cherokee stuck real deep. Several tips learned from this trip and others...

1) Lower your tire pressure. I set mine at around 25 pounds of pressure. My dad has a 93 D250 w/Cummins. His tires are narrower than mine, so he goes down to around 20. Kinda makes the truck a little squirrly on the pavement, just take it easy. Took about two minutes per tire to take my pressure from 60 to 25. Find a service station that offers free air for re-inflating.

2) If you're driving where others have gone, try to stay in their tracks / ruts. The road (if you want to call it that) to Hatteras Inlet is about 4 miles long and varies between hard packed sand (with washboards) to very soft sand with no real ruts to follow. The soft sand just kind of grabs at the wheels and really slows you down. NC Dept of Transportation actually has speed limit signs on this road!

3) Beware of driving on sand that nobody else has. There is probably a reason why they haven't. Watch the locals (or at least ask them before you venture out).

4) A tow strap is a good idea. I'd also take a shovel or some sort of tool to dig sand out from under. A friend in a 4X4 is good too.

5) If you begin to sink and spin, don't floor it cuz you'll just sink till your truck sits on it's frame. If you get in this spot, you have to dig ALL the sand out from under the truck, until it's sitting on it's wheels again. This is where the 2X6's come in handy. Put them under the wheels before you start digging.

6) Joe G said to keep momentum up. Good idea, especially in the soft sand. I never went much faster than 25 on the hard packed stuff, maybe 10-15 on the softer stuff. I don't know how you could go much faster without really wide tires.

7) Beware of whoop-de-doos. While my 2000 rides much better than my dads 93, I still tossed my back seat passengers into the air when I wasn't watching for these repetitive bumps. It reminded me of a rodeo rider.

8) Always use 4WD. I never had to go to Lo Range, but I've heard of some who have used it.

That's about all I have, I'm sure others will add more.

A quick horror story. My dad goes to Hatteras, NC or Long Island, NY two or three times per year for the past 15 years, so he has plenty of experience on the sand. Two years ago, he was driving along where others have driven. The tide was coming in. Suddenly, he hit a soft spot and his truck was axle deep in wet sand. Couldn't dig it out, because the sand/water just filled in where you dug. His friend ran down the beach and brought back somebody with a 4X4 pickup. My dad carries a 2" nylon strap (20,000 pound test) for this purpose. The other guy tried to "ease" him out of the sand, but that didn't work. He finally had to back up and get about a four foot running start to "shock" the truck out of the mire. The water was up to the running boards when he got it out. Hosed everything down, but didn't think about the rear drums. Several months later had to replace the rear brakes and drums because sand (salt) had gotten inside and corroded and abrased everything. I guess the moral of the story is that you never know what'll happen.

I don't have gauges installed yet, but I'd be curious to know what the temps were like after driving on sand. I let it idle for a couple of minutes before I shutdown, cuz the engine was really working at times to get me through the deep stuff.

Good Luck and enjoy the fishing.

Eric



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Eric Schultz
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I've been an interested reader on this topic, because there is a beach out on the coast of Washington that can be driven on, and I'd like to go there. Thanks for the informative posts.
I have a tow strap, but not an air compressor yet. I have BF Goodrich Radial All Terrain tires, which are supposed to be pretty good in the sand, especially when aired down.
Andy
 
One thing I didn't mention is that it's a GOOD idea to hose off the undercarriage after a session driving in beach sand. Actually, the best way to wash off the salt and sand is to ford a fresh water creek, but they are not always handy. If you get stuck, especially in wet sand, remove the brake drums and clean out the sand and salt.

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Joe George
Eureka, CA

'95 2500 CC auto 4X4,Combo EGT/boost guage,custom switch panel,PacBrake,TST #5,BD valve body,Automatic motorhome steps on both sides,Foldacover hard bed cover,Cummins chrome kit,Black steel grill guard,Front hitch receiver
 
Thanks for the excellent replies! I received another informative reply below by a gentleman('01 DEE/ETH owner) who is waiting for TDR to send him his login info. Below is a copy of what he sent me:

I do some surf fishing at Hatteras, which should be similar to what you
should encounter further north. Here's my comments:

1. Let your air down to 24 or 25 pounds at first, then if you're bogging
down badly, let it out in 2 pound increments until you get
flotation... ... ... believe it or not 1 pound of air pressure makes a
difference. Remember that when you reduce air pressure and your tires are
hot, you'll drop another couple of pounds when they cool.

2. While driveing, take it easy, try not to go too fast, but keep enough
power to keep your rig moving. Driving in deep sand is like going uphill all
the time. If your truck is surging badly (not from what I call sand bumps)
your air pressure is probably too high. If your air pressure is right you'll
feel a floating cushioning ride.

3. Be careful where you park, try to plan ahead so you will have an easy
time pulling out.

4. I NEVER drive below the high water mark, although, a lot of people do. I
feel like if I get stuck, I don't want to worry about the water flooding my
vehicle, this does happen.

5. Watch the wind and tides, certain wind combinations can pile water on the
beach ABOVE the high water mark during high tides, especially around new and
full moons. Not fun if you're fishing only to return and see your rig
bottomed out in the sand.

6. Carry a shovel and 2' x 2' piece of 3/4 inch plywood so you can jack up
in case you do get bogged. If you do get bogged, don't just keep spinning,
get out let some air out, clear the sand from the front of the tires,
straighten the wheels, and use low range to get yourself out. Most of the
time you see stuck rigs it's due to someone just trying to force the vehicle
out.

7. Keep weight to a minimum, I wouldn't add anything additional that you
won't need. I've even noticed a difference in my old 85 K5 Jimmy between
full and half full fuel tanks.

8. When you take off in some really deep sand, use your lowest gears trying
to not spin too much. You want to creep and float over the sand.

9. Be EXTREMELY cautious if driving at night, it's very disorienting, even
with bright lights. I wouldn't advise it unless you've driven the same
stretch of beach in the daytime and know the pitfalls.

10. I dunno if you have them there, but places with a lot of ground up
seashells (which look like pea gravel) can be trecherous with no firm bottom,
try to avoid those.

11. Carry your trash back off the beach.

I'd be very interested in how you make out, I just got a '01 DEE/ETH and
haven't had it on the beach yet. I do see quite a few dodge cummins at
hatteras so I know they will go on the sand, and go with a buddy who has a
ford diesel with a slide-in, he goes where he wants to but remains very
careful... ... never has had to drop his air below 25 pounds, of course he's
pretty heavy and 25 pounds gives him the buldge he needs in his tires.

Also, check this site out: http://www.ncbba.org/beachdriving.htm

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Martin



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'01 2500 QC ST 4WD SWB, Patriot Blue/Agate.
DEE/ETH, Trailer-Camper-Plow, 3. 54 LSD, rear-slider, cab-lights, 265's.
 
I had my truck & bigfoot camper on ocracoke (40# air) and hatteras (softer - 22#, and white knuckled in spots) this winter (see pics on my site).

I like 4wd low - seems to strain transmission less. Also, lower air makes it easier on the truck.

one thing not mentioned - if you start to bog down, STOP!!! BACK UP SOME, air down some, get some momentum, then go again.


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[This message has been edited by ted kidd (edited 06-25-2000). ]
 
If your going to stop in sand don't brake let your truck coast to a stop. This will make it easier to get rolling again.
If I get a chance this year I'm going to Michigan to visit relatives and drive on the dunes at Silver lake.

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Bill Thomas (Wild Bill)
 
I've been trekking the beaches of Ft. Fisher,NC for the last 15yrs. and only had gotten stuck one time due to LF lockout hub not locking. With tires 12. 50 or wider,I've never had to air down

1) Wider is always better in sand. Find yourself a good almost worn out set of 33x12. 50's, we call them "Onions" and just use them for your beach excursions (sorry).

2) Never hit the sand in 2-wheel drive thinking that if you have a problem you can just put it in 4 wheel drive and everything will be ok because it wont. I've seen too many people bury the ass end and then bury the front end after they put it in 4x4 and they didn't move forward one inch.

3) If you have a winch and you get stuck in the sand,there's very little chance that there will be any trees to hook your winch to. So if you happen to be alone on this venture, buy yourself a swivel boat Anchor and an army shovel.
3a)Take the army shovel and dig a 2 foot deep hole 50 feet away,in front of your truck.
3b) Hook the winch cable to the Anchor and drop them into the hole. Then bury the Anchor and pack the sand good.
3c) Then just winch yourself out! This works extremely well and I have helped a stuck Suburban this way. No need to dig the Anchor out. Just drive over it with the winch cable still hooked to it and it will pull out of the sand with ease.

4) If you don't have a winch, then take a couple of rolled up 10ft lengths of chain link fence. Put the fence under the front tires. This works like a charm since the chain link fence wont sink in the sand when you drive over it.

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