Savannah Dodge can Kiss Off

[DMC]

Stopped by Savannah Dodge today to browse around a bit. And noticed a bunch of balloons and stuff, they were open on Sunday. Hmmmm I was thinking maybe a good day to try and get a good deal. When I heard on the P. A. system that registration for a door prize was taking place and coupons for future discounts were also being given to some of the winners in the drawing. Then they said that anyone not in the military was not included nor permitted to buy a vehicle today, since this event was for military only as a gesture of their appreciation for what the troops had done for this country. Well I appreciate the troops as much as the next guy. I am also hold a Merchant Mariners Document, and am preparing to take the CG exam for Master of Tugs. And I have also registered for call out should the Navy or Marines request I work for them in the service of vessels.



I have no problem with the Dealer offering rewards or incentives for the Military. But to exclude the public is crap. Don't they know that the public is the major contributor to the armed forces. Can anyone say tax dollars?



I won't be going to that dealer again, at least not under the current GM.



Good Day



Don

 

[DMC]

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Thats interesting.



No one has any comments on my rant.



I ussually try not to be biased when I form opinions on things like this.



Maybe I'm wrong, I doubt it.



Thanks for all of the feedback.



Don

 

[CTait]

I wonder if they sold anything? When the local guard unit was called up a year ago the local newspapers were filled with pickups that wives could not make the payments on. They also called up talk radio daily crying about how unfair it was that their husband was activated and how were they supposed to make ends meet on a military income. They held all kinds of benefits for them. They didn't mind taking the pay for the one or two weekends a month that they drill but thought it was unfair that they were activated. While I am thankful for the military I don't feel sorry for them. No one forced them into their decision to join.

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

After spending 20 years in the military, you can guess what I think. I personally think that's a pretty selfish attitude for someone who supports the military. (It's only one day). If you've never been in the military, you have no idea what those guys put up with. And they pay taxes, too. The first couple of months of every year, they basically work for free. No reason to feel sorry for them, they chose what they do, as did I. But considering the current situation, I think we should cut them some slack. And be proud of them.



Jim

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

I fail to see the problem. They wanted to show support for the military so they opened the dealership on a day that they are normally closed to have special offers for people in the military. They didn't take anything from you by doing it - you wouldn't have normally been able to buy on that day as they would have been closed. I think it's great that they were doing something for our military boys and girls and my hat's off to them.

 

[Rocket]

Originally posted by DMC

121 Views and no comments.



Thats interesting.



No one has any comments on my rant.



I ussually try not to be biased when I form opinions on things like this.



Maybe I'm wrong, I doubt it.



Thanks for all of the feedback.



Don

You're wrong... but what the heck we all have been at one time or another.

 

[JConley]

Ditto what Steve said. .



Hmmm... I might have to look up Savana Dodge when its time to buy another Dodge.

 

[DKayser]

I beg to differ......

with the thought that this was a bad idea. My two brothers both toured S. E. Asia . For the most part,people were indifferent about their service. I was a 14 year old kid who was just glad they came back alive & sound. I think they would have been ecstatic to have just been thanked & appreciated. The bull**** they were treated to was uncalled for. What does it hurt anyone else for the service people to get a break on a car/truck? You ain`t paying for it. Firesuit on. Don.

 

[SGibson]

Those kids weren't forced to go, but a whole lot of them are there, all the video games in the world won't prep you for what their going thru. My hat's off to them, their not making any groundshaking decisions but they feel the ground shake everyday..... Indian ocean yahct club 79-83.

 

[Alan Reagan]

Hey, DMC, Thanks for the tug ride a couple of weeks ago. I love that tug.



I'm with you on Savannah Dodge. And I'm in the military. I won't get into a contest over this. I think that when it's a mixed crowd, everyone should be included. Now if they want to have a military appreciation day, then advertise it so that it's no surprise.



You want a good deal on a new one? Milledgeville has a good dealer.



Let me know when I can go ride on that tug again.

 

[DMC]

Hi Alan:



Its good to see that someone is able to read between the lines.



"On the Tug subject" As far as I'm concerned you can ride anytime you like.



I'll PM you later, Getting ready to go fishing.



Have a great Day



Don

 

[Sled Puller]

Originally posted by DMC





I have no problem with the Dealer offering rewards or incentives for the Military. But to exclude the public is crap.

Don

Let me try reading between those lines... . You're upset because you were not allowed to to enter a door prize contest, it was only for the guys getting shot at.



I think the reason they did it that way, was so the salesmen could concentrate on the military guys, the ones they were honoring.





Ya know, if I ever saw a dealer with a sign up"TUG BOAT SKIPPER APPRECIATION DAY ONLY", I would say, well thats cool, they deserve it, and forget about it.

 

[Alan Reagan]

That's where I disagree. Not all of us are getting shot at, all of the time. Yeah, the potential is there, but many units never deploy. Now, it just so happens that Fort Stewart and Hunter AAF are home to the 3rd ID. I think we all know who they are. They deserve military appreciation, no doubt. Don't get me wrong, I am for military appreciation. But if I had my nine year old daughter at one of these places and I was not in the military, she would get her feeligs hurt and I wouldn't like it very much. My point is, if you are going to do something like this, make it clear up front. I live here and didn't know anything about it. Like everyone else, military or not, I don't like it when I get excluded from something I want to participate in. It's not like people our age could just go join if we are not already in the military. Put it this way, there is more support given than most people imagine. That tug, for instance is what parks the Military Sealift Command ships that deliver the hardware for the military. It parks the Navy ships when they come here to. Believe me, those guys are doing their part. Without them there would be no port calls for military vessels or load out vessels in this port.

 

[JConley]

Am I missing something?? Wasnt he told when he got there that it was for the military, and he wasnt eligible?



True people might not be able to join the military now, but the military has been around your whole life, so its not like they didnt have the chance. People dont join the military to get a good deal on a car, so your statement about not being able to enlist is kinda weird.



As far as I see it, I am sure the dealer was open on Monday. Based on the first post in this thread, the only reason to feel left out is because of your own selfish motives. You wanted a better deal, and you couldnt get it.



Many civilians contribute in all areas to support the military. However, the last time I checked, tugboat captains still sleep in there bed at night, and are not seperated from there families for months at a time. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I think they did a good job by limiting the event to those that voluntered to serve in the military, rather than those that wanted to sponge off the event to save a few bucks.





John

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

Originally posted by Alan Reagan

But if I had my nine year old daughter at one of these places and I was not in the military, she would get her feeligs hurt and I wouldn't like it very much.

If my daughter (4 yr old) had her feelings hurt by something like this I would use it as an opportunity to teach her a lesson. First, that just because your breathing doesn't entitle you to everything. Second, that the reason they were doing this was because some of our fellow citizens put their lives at risk and sacrifice their time with their family to help defend our country and protect us.



Yes, I pay taxes that support the military - but in NO WAY shape or form am I doing anything in comparison to what our military people are. Every year I volunteer time at a VA hospital an hour away from me to give a little back to those that have given so much for us. Once my daughter gets older and can help out she will come with me. I feel that anything we can do for our military personel who sacrifice so much for us is great. The "entitlement" mentality that much of the US has is one of our biggest downfalls IMO.

 

[Alan Reagan]

Originally posted by JConley

Am I missing something?? Wasnt he told when he got there that it was for the military, and he wasnt eligible?



True people might not be able to join the military now, but the military has been around your whole life, so its not like they didnt have the chance. People dont join the military to get a good deal on a car, so your statement about not being able to enlist is kinda weird.



As far as I see it, I am sure the dealer was open on Monday. Based on the first post in this thread, the only reason to feel left out is because of your own selfish motives. You wanted a better deal, and you couldnt get it.



Many civilians contribute in all areas to support the military. However, the last time I checked, tugboat captains still sleep in there bed at night, and are not seperated from there families for months at a time. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I think they did a good job by limiting the event to those that voluntered to serve in the military, rather than those that wanted to sponge off the event to save a few bucks.





John

I don't know what he was told. I know I live here, am in the military, own a Ram and didn't know about any event at Savannah Dodge that was for military only.



My statement about being able to enlist is not weird. It's a fact that most people have made a choice in their lives one way or the other when they were younger about joining the military. Once you are past a certain age, you are excluded no matter what you might want to do. So should you be excluded from buying a car on Sunday because you are not in the military? As a member of the military, I've never been given privileges and perks like that before. And if you are not excluded from buying, you should not be excluded from participating in registration for door prizes. Privilege and freedom is for everyone. Why not have a special day for everyone based on race, income, religion, IQ, union membership? I served in Vietnam in the Navy and will retire from the Coast Guard this year. And I still don't believe I deserve special treatment. However, I do believe everyone deserves equal treatment.



And as for tugboat captains sleeping in their own beds at night. Not. Some go 30 days before they get home. Others, like the ones here in Savannah get to bed based on the tides and ship movements. DMC is an engineer. He works when they tell him to work. And if the Navy calls him to go to work for the Military Sealift Command, I believe he will go since he registered with them. And if he wants to buy on Sunday, he should be allowed to. I don't think me and my military compatriots have a monopoly on that.

 

[bmoeller]

Originally posted by Rams-n-Hogs

pay taxes, too. The first couple of months of every year, they basically work for free.

And the rest of the tax paying population doesn't?

 

[QRTRHRS]

Dealers regularly offer special deals to select groups, college grads, military, whatever. While there may be a bit of humanity here, does anyone really think that is this total motivation? So you are excluded in today's daily offering. Big deal. Smart buyers know what they should pay and hang tough in the negotiations.



By the way, having served in Germany during the Vietnam era, I have experienced the stigma of that time. Revealing that you were an "era" vet would quickly end a job interview. No bull, this was real. Then in 1983, this very same thing brought my resume to the top when I got on with AT&T. I was grateful mind you, but I did not gloat, I did not say "it's about time". I did what I had to do. I went where I was told. I expect no special treatment. I feel that if I was wronged, those who wronged me will be judged in their time not mine.

 

[DMC]

Well this has really turned into a mess.



Not what I had intended at all.



However people like SledPuller say things like. ( Let me try reading between those lines... . You're upset because you were not allowed to to enter a door prize contest, it was only for the guys getting shot at. )



For your information I didn't give a rats a** about any door prize. I'm not into entitlements either. I have given far more to mere strangers than I have ever recieved. And by the way I have never drawn a nickel of unemployment. Or any other type of public assistance.



However what really disturbed me was that a civilian couldn't even buy a vehicle that day. I know for a fact that special military incentives are available at various dealers and other places. And I think its a good thing.



You people that assume that I have no respect for the Military. You are dead wrong. My Grandfather put his building business on hold to help build Liberty Ships during WW2. Two Uncle's in the Air Force. Another Uncle that served in Korea, and was a POW for 18 Months. Its not a pretty thing to see a healty adult 6' tall that weighs 120lbs. "Just to name a few". I haven't been in the Military but I haven't had the life Of Riley either.



I think this thread needs to be closed before some more people form opinions that are just plain stupid.



I'm through on this one and yall can continue the fray without having to worry about any rebuttle from me.



Good Luck



Don

 

[Sled Puller]

Originally posted by DMC





I think this thread needs to be closed before some more people form opinions that are just plain stupid.

Too late.

The original post perhaps was too late? LOL!