schaeffer oil in a 6.7l

[2Rowdy]

Just as the title says. Has anyone been running the schaeffer oil in their 6. 7l engines. I searched the posts but found nothing about it in a 6. 7l. I am seriously thinking about switching to the supreme 9000 5w-40. Any comment welcome. I am running fleetguard stratapore filter and an fs-2500 bypass.

 

[JoelMartin]

I'd be interested in knowing also. I just recently started using schaeffer oil in my 5. 9 but would be curious if I could put it in my buddies 6. 7.

 

[Garry Verheyden]

2Roudy, does that bypass filter work as good as they say. Does it take the black out? Also how much does it cost.

Thanks,

Garry

 

[2Rowdy]

No it does not take the black out. I am trying to extend my intervals my first oil sample came back great at 6000 miles and in the next couple of weeks I will be changing oil at 8000 miles this time. we will see. I am very pleased with it so far and would recommend it to any one especially on a 6. 7. It is still early in my use of it.



Joel how has your experience been with it in a 5. 9. The rep says it has been formulated to work in the 6. 7l.

 

[Garry Verheyden]

Thanks! I thought it was supposed to take the soot out, making it clearer.

Garry

 

[DPellegrin]

Just be sure that Schaeffers has an API classification like CJ-4. I'm not talking about a claim that says "meets CJ-4" or "meets CI-4". I'm talking about an actual API licence that allows Schaeffers to display the API service classification "donut" on the bottle.



regards,

 

[2Rowdy]

Yes, it is on there I looked at it.



Garry

My insolubles were . 4%. Acceptables are supposed to be . 7%. I am by no means an expert though.

 

[Buffalo]

2Rowdy,



Have you been to bobistheoilguy.com. It is a lubrication related website & has a lot of information about Schaeffer's products. They are considered 'VERY GOOD' products & used oil analysis seems to back up those claims.



I believe that the latest Supreme 9000 is rated as CJ-4, which, would be compatible with your new 6. 7 engine.



If you need to get ahold of Schaeffer's, their number is 1-800-325-9962 (Schaeffer Oil 3. 0 | Industrial Lubricants | Diesel Fuel Additive | Synthetic Motor Oils).



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[JoelMartin]

2Rowdy,
I just started using schaeffers oil not long ago so I haven't really seen how good it is yet. The salesman who sold it to me used the Mystik semi-synthetic that I had been using against his oil in a test and his beat. So far I like it.

 

[PaulBarker]

the filters and high dollar oil will only help a bit on a 6. 7. if your truck is stock with the dpf on, that means you still have regens. when the truck goes into regens you take on a little bit of fuel into the crank case. the truck has a sensor to detect 7% fuel in the oil. once it does your over head will come on, change oil. it does not matter how great the oil is, 7% fuel is still 7 % fuel. the only way to get the black out of the oil is to block the EGR, it has been proven, the oil is much clearer. it will keep that transparent brown clear look to it. personally running the dpf and having to change my oil between 2000 miles and 4000 miles is not worth the high dollar oil. once you get 7% fuel in it you should not run too much father until you change, thats if you want to prolong the life of the engine.



Since i dont have the dpf on, my engine oil quit rising. i have been able to run 7500 miles on the oil. and my overhead does not tell me to change the oil, it does not come on now.



It sucked when the dpf was on there cause i never made it past 4000 miles before the overhead came on. Now that i dont have that problem of fuel entering the crank case i will probably run Royal Purple



we used to run schaffer oil in our tractors, farm trucks, lawn mower, 4-wheelers, everything... it seemed to be fine, we doubled the oil change intervals. like the tractors where every 100hrs and with schaffer it was every 200 hrs. we also used there grease. it did not seem to make a difference on the life of bearing in the hippers or discs.

 

[Garry Verheyden]

Thanks Paul. I have my DPF delete on order. Looking forward to using it. Do you also have your egr blocked yet? Off topic, but what's your fuel economy now? Thanks,

Garry

 

[LMangold]

I don't see a CJ-4 rating on their specs. Here is a copy from their website:



Supreme 9000 SAE 5W-40 meets and exceeds the following manufacturers' specifications and requirements:



API CI-4/CH-4/SL and CI-4 Plus. Military Specifications MIL-PRE-2104G and A-A-52306A, JASO DH-1, Mack EO-N Premium Plus-03, Caterpillar, Caterpillar ECF-1, Cummins CES 20076, CES 20077, CES 20078, Detroit Diesel 7SE 270, Detroit Diesel Power Guard Oil Specification 93K214, Detroit Diesel 2000/Series, 4000 Category 1, International Harvester, Navistar, John Deere, JI Case, Komatsu, Dresser. ACEA E5/E3/B3/A3, ACEA E-7-04, Duetz, Daimler Chrysler MB228. 1/228. 3, Daimler Chrysler MB 229. 2. Daimler Chrysler MB 228. 5, Renault RVI RXD, Volvo VDS-2 and VDS-3, Man 271, Man 3275, MTU Type 2 and Volkswagen VW 502. 00, 505. 00, and 505. 01.

 

[ARichards]

Schaeffer Product #9000CJ



http://www.schaefferoil.com/datapdf/9000CJ%20%20TD.pdf

 

[2Rowdy]

I am not seeing the fuel in the oil like alot of people are according to my one and only report so far. I will keep testing to keep track of it. I am still researching but so far the oil is not much if any more expensive than a store bought/name brand syn oil.

 

[DPellegrin]

What I see is a lot of "Meet or Exceeds", "Excellent", "Superior". To me these are unsubstantiated claims. What I don't see is an API service classification like CI-4 or CJ-4. Not a claim to "meet or exceed CJ-4", but the actual API licence which allows the oil manufacturer to display the API "donut". The API licence is absolutely necessary and says you have passed all the engine manufacturer tests for that service classification. You gotta have this!!



Regards,

 

[LMangold]

Can this oil be ordered over the net? I'm too far from a dealer.

 

[LMangold]

OK, that was a stupid question... I already found it.

 

[lubeguy]

I am a schaeffer rep. you cant do any better than schaeffer, either the blend or full synth is actually engineered cj4+ already

 

[DPellegrin]

I am a schaeffer rep. you cant do any better than schaeffer, either the blend or full synth is actually engineered cj4+ already

I have no experience with Schaeffer lube products but I have heard they have a good reputation for quality. I have also been around Detroit Diesel and Cummins engineers for a long time and they always insist that the API classification "donut" is a must when looking for a lube oil. In fact, when I prepare bid specifications for engine oil, the vendor is required to supply their API service classification license number. This was a recommened requirement from both DDC and Cummins. I must tell you that I am sceptical about statements that say "meets or exceeds API-XXX". Can Schaeffer supply its API license number?

 

[Buffalo]

DPelligren,



I understand your keen interest in the API Classification (license/donut), especially, when you are buying for a large fleet of vehicles. Oils having earned the API License have, at the very least, a minimum amount of quality to pass the tests. They have to be 'good' oils.



For awhile now, I have been 'studying' Schaeffer's oils & greases & have never read anything bad about their products. The majority of what I've read has been unbiased opinions written by users, & used oil analysis results.



Schaeffer's is one of the oldest family owned companies in the US. They started in 1834, I believe. Originally, they manufactured greases used on the wagons that brought people & their belongings out West. They are in St. Louis, MO. near where the wagon trains started on their journey. Their story is quite remarkable.



However, the fact that they may not have the API Classification 'may' make a difference if you have an oil related problem that you want corrected by your trucks warranty.



Joe F. (Buffalo)