Seeking Complete Ralleye Dash for 71 Challenger

[KatDiesel]

<font color=blue>Well since I found my car its time to get things rolling.

I would like to swap in a Ralleye Dash so I need a complete dash wiring included if anyof y'all see one around somewhere please let me know. Since my car is a 71 I would like to stick with 71 parts if possible.

Other plans for the car are installation of an R/T hood, love them two scoops. Instead of building a 340 I am goning to build a 71 360 into stroker that will be about 420ci when finished! Also have my eye on a 5 speed manual transmission setup (its a kit specifically for this) but might drop in a 727 auto to "hold" me over since the 5 speed kit is bout $3500. And lastly I have a 8 3/4rear I will put in and then I have also caught wind of a Dana 60 to throw under the rear! Once this process is completed then it will prolly be time to seek a new paintjob... ... gotta love it.....

Oh ya I am still looking for any Challenger convertables y'all might run across, please let me know.

Any comments or thoughts on my "plans" for the car????

 

[446]

There is a guy named Jerry Dempsey in Starke Florida. The name is Dempsey Auto parts. He's a honest nice guy and has about anything you could want for a mopar. If you go to any of the mopar shows in the east, he's always the one with the biggest display. He is "NOT" cheap but he has everything and he wont rip you off. 904 area code I think!



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[HEMI®Dart]

Kat,

A Ralley Dash is nice. Factory tach & 150 MPH speedo. I'm pretty sure a '70 & 71' are the same. It should not be too hard to find. Search the MOPAR WEBRING. There are tons of parts for sale.

The 360 is a good choice over a 340. The last 340 was made in '71. Getting tough to find.

[This message has been edited by HEMI®Dart (edited 02-25-2001). ]

 

[KatDiesel]

<font color=blue>Ok stupid question, I forgot to ask in my orginal post, how much should I expect to pay for a complete dash in great to near mint condition?

Chad -

An 8 3/4 Rear comes with the car (its got 8 1/4 right now) and the Dana 60 is kind of an "Afterthought" because I know of one here in Omaha.

And the reason I picked a 360 over a 340 is basically its gonna be cheaper and of course bigger! #ad
I am getting a complete "Running" 360 w/J Heads for $275, then I figure for less then $2000 I can have professionally built for 450 to 475hp or so. I still might put 340 emblems on it tho... . Hehe.

 

[Mopar-muscle]

chad , you must have missed the article in one of the mopar mags a few months back , dana vs 8 3/4 , weight difference is 50 pounds heavier for the dana , the car 60 footed a hair quicker and the times and trap speed were pretty much identical .

kat if you can score the dana reasonably , buy it , just make sure its for an E body .

i think you should leave the car as is and install a 500 inch motor ... .

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by HEMI®Dart:
A Ralley Dash is nice. Factory tach & 150 MPH speedo. I'm pretty sure a '70 & 71' are the same. It should not be too hard to find. Search the MOPAR WEBRING. There are tons of parts for sale.

The whole reason I want the dash is the 150mph speedo and the factory tach. So keep your eyes and ears open for one please.....

Oh ya be prepared to be bombarded with with questions on the car... . Hehe I feel so "new" again... ... .

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Here is an E-body Ralley Cluster on E-bay. You should be able tp find one cheaper then that. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=560281396&r=0&t=0
#ad

Keep an eye on this one. New wood grain trim kits are inexpensive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=563403439&r=0&t=0

Kat,
Are there any big Mopar swap meets around your area? This would be the ideal place to find a ralley cluster. 3 big Mopar meets I can think of are Mopar Atlantic Nationals, Mopar Nationals & Chryslers @ Carlise. You would have literality 50+ E-Body Ralley Clusters to pick from. #ad


Get a copy of Hemmings Motor News. There will be a bunch in there too. Maybe you can find a seller close to where you live.



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[Steve St.Laurent]

Depending on what you're planning on doing with the car Kat and if you are doing a custom rear end anyways I'd highly recommend a Ford 9 inch. The big advantage of the 9 inch is that you just bolt in the center section and can have multiple ratio rear ends ready to go and can change them out in about 5-10 minutes depending on what you want to do that day - drag racing or highway driving. JMHO

-Steve

 

[Chad Sheets]

Go with an 8 3/4. You will not destroy it. The dana is much heavier and takes more power to turn. Pretty much an overkill. The 340's could be found as late as 73 in Plymouth and Dodge. The 360 will be cheaper to build and can make some BIG power. Sounds like you have alot of fun ahead of you. Best of luck.

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[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by Steve St. Laurent:
Depending on what you're planning on doing with the car Kat and if you are doing a custom rear end anyways I'd highly recommend a Ford 9 inch.

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Well the Dana 60 is for an E body so its pretty much bolt up and go. The 8 3/4 rear end is coming "Free" with the car and the Dana 60 is here in Omaha. I figure I can figure out somethin between the two...

Thanks for the advice tho, if I change my mind I'll consider it #ad

 

[BULLWAGON]

Steve... . a 9" FORD in a Mopar.....come on! Have you ever seen an 8 3/4? The center section is removable like a 9". An 8 3/4 can take ALOT of power..... it would be my first choice. Kat... . You think you can get a 450hp small block Mopar "Professionally" built for under $2000??? LMAO!

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[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by BULLWAGON:
Steve... . a 9" FORD in a Mopar.....come on! Have you ever seen an 8 3/4? The center section is removable like a 9". An 8 3/4 can take ALOT of power..... it would be my first choice. Kat... . You think you can get a 450hp small block Mopar "Professionally" built for under $2000??? LMAO!

450hp might be stretching it, but it should be at least 400hp around 6200rpm. Yes its gonna be done for $2000.
This is coming from a guy who has a SuperBird and two Cudas so I have no reason to not believe him... . its gonna be a 71 360 slightly modified. #ad
With 340 emblems on the car. It may not be "professionally" built but its a backyard professional here in Gretna, NE...

I have a Dana 60 lined up ready to bolt in the car with 4. 10 ratio and Posi. So I am skipping over an 8¾ rearend. <font size=-2>


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[Chad Sheets]

I dont put too much stock in the magazines. They have endless budgets most of the time. I work from old junkyards and lay on the garage floor to build my stuff. A Dana 60 will cost more money for parts and etc. , money that could be used for real power. I have seen a guy with the 8 1/4 rear end with 30x9 Goodyear radials at the track in a Demon run 11. 30's with a 360. He makes fun of people who go out and spend $$$ on 8 3/4, 9" Fords, 12 bolt chevies, Danas etc. Alot of the magazines want you to go out, open your billfold up and drop money on some product they think you need. Figure out what you need based on YOUR NEEDS, not what some guy sitting behind a desk thinks you need( or what someone like me thinks you need) because this is what all his buddies have who are fast. Anyone can spend cash to go fast (look at our trucks) it takes a smart person to turn nothing into something. Sit down, figure up what you can afford to spend on the entire project of the car. Tally up what is most important to you (paint and body or engine and drivetrane) and disperse your money accordingly. I have had my Cuda for 5 years now, and I still dont have it the way I want it. This stuff takes time unless you have a bank account like Bill Gates.

I dont run no 10's in the 1/4, and I dont even know how many horsies I am pounding out. I do know all I have is $800 in my engine from carb to oil pan, and I can run high 11. 00's all day long, change the slicks out for my street tires and wipe the shoe polish off the window and I am ready to cruise down main street on pump gas all day long if I want in a car that could roll into any local car show and be competitive in any show and shine contest on a 15 year old paint job. . Dont go too hog wild on your Challenger. I did with my Cuda at fist and got tired of only being able to drive it at the track. These cars are fun to drive. I enjoy making my ride as streetable as possible, yet still be able to go to the track. I have fun at the track, but I have even more fun going on Sunday drives. Its neat to see the looks you get and the compliments from older guys who use to have cars like ours when they were hot rodding around town as teenagers in the late 60's/early 70's. You are going to have a blast with this car. Just remember Rome wasn't built in a day. If you ever need help finding anything, email me and I will ask some of the old Mopar dudes we race with.

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2000 2500 Red Sport quad cab, 4x4, K&N, DDI's, straight piped, boost, pyro and fuel pressure gages, Hot Power Edge, EZ box, race transmission, Barry Grant fuel system, mean looking set of 33. 5" tires, Snap On diamond tool box, Marine Corps window sticker, Semper Fi!

1972 340 Cuda'. Original tripple Black, 340 car w/air. Good clean car, super stock springs, Weld Prostars, shaker hood, strong 340 with a 727/4000 stahl, 4. 56... . Bombs away!
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My Diesel Page

 

[BULLWAGON]

OK Kat... ... get your story straight. First it's 450-475hp,now it's 400? What heads are you going to use to make this power? Induction? Still less than $2000? Do you even have this car??

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by BULLWAGON:
OK Kat... ... get your story straight. First it's 450-475hp,now it's 400? What heads are you going to use to make this power? Induction? Still less than $2000? Do you even have this car??

<font color=blue>I apologize for the "Above" misunderstanding, the person I was talking to I misunderstood when we were discussing it, the engine being built will be built for $2000 and it will have 400hp or better. I am not building it so I don't know what heads are being used and really don't care as long it works as described. Same story on induction, I am not building it so I don't really care, long as it does what I want it to.

No the car is not physically here, but yes I bought the car, title will be arriving any day now if ya like I can scan it for you... ... ... ... . and I do already have arrangements to have the car transported here in the next couple of weeks... ... ... .

Theres the straight story... ... ... ... ... next question?

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Eric,

As a 'rule of thumb' when building a car, take your budget you are planning to spend on the car... . Then $DOUBLE IT$.

This will be a more accurate figure #ad


I agree with Chad. Build a nice streetable Engine. One that will run on pump gas and not detonate. Mopar Performance has some nice small block crate engines at reasonable prices that will pull your Challanger around well. You can always add new bolt on's.

I want crazy on my '70 Cuda 10 years ago. Tubbed, 8 point cage, narrowed 8 3/4, Wilwood discs, Mickey Thomson Steam roller tires ect. Had visions of builing a blown HEMI... . now I have a $10,000 rolling chassis & a stalled project. A classic mistake I have read about many, many times. I'm another sucker too. #ad



You sound like you have a good plan #ad




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[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by HEMI®Dart:
As a 'rule of thumb' when building a car, take your budget you are planning to spend on the car... . Then $DOUBLE IT$.

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Budget? who needs a budget..... #ad
I am going to spend what it takes to get the car how I want it.

I want to stay small block hence the 360 route (plus its cheaper then a 340), and it has more low end torque.

I figure this summer I'll drive it around as is (318/904) while I get the engine and transmission (727auto) together and hopefully around August I can drop in the engine/transmission/Dana 60 combination. Then this winter I can pick up the 5 speed transmission "kit" and over the winter have that in the car and possibly repaint the car by next spring. Thats my "Tenative" timeline and plan.

The Ralleye Dash and R/T hood I will put on whenever the oppurtunity arises... .....

So when the car is done it will be 360 (420ci stroker), 5 speed transmission, Dana 60 w/4. 10 Posi. Then of course Ralleye dash and R/T hood. I figure the 5 speed transmission with 4. 10 ratio will give me the best of both world, good street and strip performance.

I am going to make sure this engine is streetable, but not too shabby at the strip as well. Thats my "plan" anyhow.

 

[Chad Sheets]

ERIC, I am going to an all Mopar swap meet in the morning. If I see anyone with a good dash I will get their phone number or email address for you.

Heres a thought... . Mopar Performance 360 short block comes with a 292 purple stripe cam, 10:1 or 10. 5:1 pistons..... about $1000.

A set of Hughes heads, street/strip level... ... . about $1000.

Pick up a good intake and carb and set of headers and you are ready to go (another $500 if not cheaper). We put a combo like this in an E body with 4. 56 gears and a 727, very impressive and reliable mid 12/low 12 second car.

Go here to check out Hughes Engines. This guy is a pretty squared away individual. Makes some real nice cams. That is what he is known best for. His heads are much better than Indy cylinder heads. I have had both. The Indy ones were nice, but the Hughes heads blew them out of the water.

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2000 2500 Red Sport quad cab, 4x4, K&N, DDI's, straight piped, boost, pyro and fuel pressure gages, Hot Power Edge, EZ box, race transmission, Barry Grant fuel system, mean looking set of 33. 5" tires, Snap On diamond tool box, Marine Corps window sticker, Semper Fi!

1972 340 Cuda'. Original tripple Black, 340 car w/air. Good clean car, super stock springs, Weld Prostars, shaker hood, strong 340 with a 727/4000 stahl, 4. 56... . Bombs away!
NRA Life Member
My Diesel Page

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by Chad Sheets:
ERIC, I am going to an all Mopar swap meet in the morning. If I see anyone with a good dash I will get their phone number or email address for you.

Thanks Chad, I ment to mention this earlier but I got busy at work and didn't get a chance to get back to it until now.

 

[BULLWAGON]

Kat-So you're building a 420 stroker for $2000??