Should We Be Stocking Up On CI-4 Oil?

[Gary - K7GLD]

Folks regularly trading their vehicles will probably never know the difference in oil types and their longer range results. On the other hand, I plan on keeping my '02 for the long haul - and already HAVE been stockpiling the current lube (DELO 400 15/40) for future use, probably will stock up on more by the end of the year. I've gone to 12K mile oil change intervals with the help of good bypass filtration, and as of today, have about 6 years worth of oil stocked, will probably pick up another couple of 6-gallon cases.



The next trick is proper, non-deteriorating storage for my "reserves"... :-laf

 

[amsoilman]

The article in the latest issue of TDR, which was well written, has me confused. It suggests CI-4 will continue to be available at least through 2009.



Is this a realistic expectation?



How realistic is it to expect places like Pep Boys (where I get my oil now) or Scheid or Advance (or wherever) to start stocking both CI-4 and CJ-4?



Seems to me 99% of retailers will switch over to CJ-4 as their only offering. If so, what do us suckers do?



Ryan

THis is the very reason Amsoil Inc. did not Re-formulate their CI-4+ oils, and introduced their CJ-4 Oil (DEO)

 

[CPjMech]

For the most part the biggest need for change in the engine oil is due to the DPF (diesel particulate filter). As the ash in the oil burns off past the piston rings it will plug the filter prematurely.

 

[steved]

Well, I just picked up and changed over to the CJ-4 oil today... it is everywhere around here... only CI-4+ left seems to be NOS...



Based on Shell's claim, it is BETTER than the previous oils... but anyone can shine a turd... it didn't seem any different than the CI-4+ that I also have a few gallons of yet...



I figure it this way... a lot of us have been through SEVERAL iterations of oil "upgrades" by companies and I have yet to see any negative impacts from it... just because the oil is more difficult to make could also imply it is just more costly...



steved

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I sorta tend to the middle of the road where "New is great and wonderful" and "the old stuff has been great for 40 years, why change?" lines of reasoning are concerned.



I like to keep an open mind - but also tend to be a bit skeptical of "new" stuff until it's been out and proven for a while. All that gets me in trouble with the reckless "just close yer eyes and jump on in" crowd. :-laf



That said, I suppose the newer oil formulations have the POTENTIAL to provide good results - but some oil experts have raised alarms that at least SOME of the components used in current additive packages are fairly critical to long engine life - and that proper care must be used if those are removed or reduced primarily as a means towards greater emissions control.



I fully appreciate cleaner air - just as I do a long lasting engine - and get nervous at any prospect that one can only be obtained at the sacrifice of the other...

 

[Sri Ram]

Y'all know this, but since it hasn't been mentioned yet: As a preventive measure, it might be a good idea to get your oil analyzed if you have concerns about engine wear/longevity. Regular analysis can give us a picture of how the engine is wearing and how changes in oil, air filter, etc might affect the engine.

 

[scootergmc]

The article in the latest issue of TDR, which was well written, has me confused. It suggests CI-4 will continue to be available at least through 2009.



Is this a realistic expectation?



How realistic is it to expect places like Pep Boys (where I get my oil now) or Scheid or Advance (or wherever) to start stocking both CI-4 and CJ-4?



Seems to me 99% of retailers will switch over to CJ-4 as their only offering. If so, what do us suckers do?



Ryan

From my reading of the oil analysis article in the latest TDR mag, I thought the author said the CJ-4 will be as good if not better for the engines without the DPF's as the CI-4 currently is? Did I read that wrong? Was I paying too much attention to my other simultaneous bathroom task?



I think this is a non-issue if you don't have a DPF.



EDIT: Well, I kinda read it wrong. Apparently, I was a little more focused on my other tasks at hand :-laf. CJ-4= less detergents, which means more frequent oil changes on rigs w/out a DPF. CI-4= don't use in DPF trucks!! OK!! Now I've got it firgured out!