Smarty and HOT juice

[BLACKJACK]

Anybody mind helping to enlighten me. I read on another site that the Juice wont work with the smarty on my 600 motor. I talked to Marc at TST and he said it was possible and he had seen this before. I trust what Marc says as those guys really know there stuff, but I just wanted some more insurance. Marc also confirmed that as long as I keep it on the even levels, or run the juice off on the odd #'s I would be fine.



I was also told that guys cant notice a difference between having the juice on/off when they do run with both. Is this so or am I getting a typical case of bias from the guys that are all running the TST on the other site?

 

[staarma]

I plan on running the Hot Juice with an EZ stack with the Smarty. Bob Wagner told me the stack was just fine as long as I ran the no timing programs in the Smarty other wise there would be too much timing. As far as not feeling a difference goes I don't know why you wouldn't. It would just be more duration which means more fuel etc. The TST is more agressive than the Juice for sure but you would still feel a difference. I plan on the Smarty and EZ running all of the time and then when needed I could easily crank up the Juice. I just hope I have enough pressure/volume and enough turbo to utilize that much fuel.



If I were you I would talk to Mads or Bob Wagner and get the true story.

 

[BLACKJACK]

Your one of the first I have heard doing this. I was set on that setup until everyone was knockin it and then I saw alot of people had sold there juice modules in favor of the TST. I agree with you though.



Is their a reason why you wantet to go with the EZ over the MP-8? Just curious cause I dont like that I cannot turn it all the way off so I was looking at the mp. Ive almost talked myself outta that though after seeing all the injector failures on trucks running honed sticks (a future mod I want to do). But I also read that as long as I keep my Fass 150 system loaded with a 2 micron filter on to sort out the debris you would be ok.



I suppose I need to update my sig soon.

 

[BLACKJACK]

Also I bought a fuel pressure gauge but I havnt installed it yet. I think I should have bought an electric one. Mine is hyd. and I was told they have problems by the guy that installed my FASS (I was broke down and needed a new lift pump and was out of state so I just paid to have one installed from a guy in PA). In fact he didnt install it becouse he said they are to hard to bleed? I guess i'll find out. Maybe I should do a search about gauges.

 

[staarma]

I went with the EZ because it's pretty easy on the pressure (no pun intended). :-laf I leave it on level 1 and it really makes a big difference on the bottom. I have it off right now to send back and I sure do miss it. I think you will be ok though if you keep good fuel in it with an additive and good filtration.



As far as the gauge goes... . I went from an Autometer electric to a Pricol mechanical with an isolator and it just reads 0 as I can't get it to blled properly. I had it perfect but when I changed my fuel filter I had to bleed it again and I just can't get it. I want to put my electric back on but now it won't match my other gauges.

 

[24VChev]

I run the Hot juice and the smarty. I run the highest level on the smarty with no timing. I need to add a lift pump as the stocker is not keeping up. If I run any level higher the 3 on the juice I do get a diesel rattle in the motor. I think it is lack of fuel.





Malcolm

 

[BLACKJACK]

But you do feel a big increase on all of the edge adjustments you make right? I wonder how it does with one of the smarty programs like the 4 or 6 and with the HOT all the way up. Would like to see what kind of dyno numbers you would get.