Smarty, the new CaTCHER tool.

[BDR]

Marco~

So would this be a good time to ask about stackability, like say with a comp box? I believe I read that there was a Smarty level without timing, SW# 8 : CaTCHER no timing. Would this be the setting for a Comp?

 

[BRobertson]

JR2 is worried because he only knows one speed, "balls to the wall"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I have had the same concerns, and I think the Smarty will be a very flexible and usefull upgrade.

I'm on the wait list!!!

Bob

 

[Marco]

Smarty like the brand "S"?



Yes at the bottom line, Smarty writes the ECM as does the other brand(s).

Yet, that's like comparing ricer to a Cummins.



Have you ever USED brand S's toy? How many times do you have to cycle the key, wait, cycle the key, wait... ??? Well by the time you have cycled the keys the times brands "S" requires you to, with the Smarty it's already all done and said, you're in your truck motoring away while brand "S" has yet to begin an Update.



Nope, they're not created all the same.

. if this new program is the bee's knee's why hasnt a hugh company like super chips done it already . .

:-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[SRadke]

This may or may not be the place to post it but I'd like to see a PTO option in the third gen unit.

 

[Marco]

This may or may not be the place to post it but I'd like to see a PTO option in the third gen unit.

This is the right place for that kinda question. If not here, where else?



I'm working on a PTO or manual High Idle for the second gen right now.

Well, "working" is saying a little too much, right now I'm way too swamped with other things but yes it's in the works. Should it become ready after the Smarty has been purchased, no problem, USB, internet update...



Now to answer finally your question, the third gen PTO is in the works too.

Third gen PTO is easier than the second gen... .



Marco

 

[JR2]

JR2 is worried because he only knows one speed, "balls to the wall"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I have had the same concerns, and I think the Smarty will be a very flexible and usefull upgrade.

I'm on the wait list!!!

Bob

Cool Bob, now I can just use yours on Drag Race Days...

 

[WCounts]

The Smartys ability to add timing to the 3rd gen is going to be interesting. The 04. 5s are very retarded and the boxes that add timing like the tst can only add a little with out setting codes. The Smarty does what we need that the others don't. It will compliment my tst and VA3. 1 and soon injectors. The Smarty will never be obsolete with the ability to take downloads. This is what I've been waiting for.

 

[mmclaughlin]

Can SMARTY enable the 3-cyclinder/high idle function? Any chance it will have the ablity to adjust the perameters for the high idle?

 

[Timbeaux38]

Can super chips go alot futher than they do ???? MAYBE ??? ... . But why exactly are they holding back ?





So Whos Liable for the Smarty if it frys the ECM ?? Its Self ?? The Engine ??



DM

They are not holding anything back. . the cummins ECM is no walk in the park to crack... ... . And just like any other mod you do, you are liable if something is fried as a result.....

 

[Hohn]

The "final" Smarty level

I was thinking about this. If there is a "next level" to the catcher ECM, and the Smarty represents this, then is there a "next level" to the Smarty? If so, what is it?


Ultimately, I think there is. Right now, you'll be able to download new programs into the Smarty and then into the ECM.

But what if you could MAKE YOUR OWN PROGRAM??? I mean, what if you want to experiement with big timing retard at low rpm/high boost levels. What if you could adjust the overall timing of your truck until you found the optimum MPG setup?

See, as it sits right now, you get some sweet software for your truck. But the sky's the limit on how many combinations could be conceived, and for what purposes. But the software is being developed by only one guy or a small handful of testers.

The ideal, then IMO is a software edit function that will work on a PC or Mac. Heck, maybe something as crude as having the data tables on an Excel sheet for manipulation.

Then, we could create a TDR forum where people could try out each other's softwares.

So instead of one engineer, you'dhave THOUSANDS of "software engineers" all working on optimizing the ECM for one purpose or another-- towing, mpg, mpg while towing, racing, pulling, whatever.


This kind of thing is already being done with electric guitar softwares. Different people can use their "line 6" boxes and come up with cool sounds. Then they can upload them to the Line 6 website and others can download them. It's a dream come true.



Unfortunately, the stakes are a little higher here. With a guitar sound, the wrong settings just sound bad. With wrong engine software, you can grenade a pricey metal assembly.


But you have to admit, isn't the idea tantalizing?? What if you wanted the 3cyl cold idle to engage at 40° instead of the 15° or so it's set at? What if you could make your OWN timing maps, and fueling maps? What if YOU controlled how the ECM responsed to APPS inputs?


Let your mind wander, and you can see that the Smarty could just be a bellweather of a radical revolution in how we think of performance software for our trucks...

jh

 

[SnoKing]

OK, question on overboost. If you set the SW back to stock and are running a different turbo, j hook, j hook with spring etc. Does the ECM see an over boost and set a code, and then defuel?? SNOKING

 

[Marco]

Snoking,

Stock is just that, STOCK. The original OEM software that defuels for too high boost.



Hohn, I believe you have too much free time... :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf



Marco

 

[SnoKing]

Well maybe you should have a stock program with boost fooling for those who drive on icey roads. Or is one of the other programs good for that. Half power, fuel saving etc?



SNOKING

 

[Bob Wagner]

that program is also avaialbe, and there is a fuel saver program too, should see some nice mpg gains Oo.

 

[SHobbs]

Ok I asked this when the Catcher was introduced and I will ask again. What about the health of the VP44 with the smarty? Will it cause premature death?



If selection 10 is like the regular Catcher, I am curious about the other settings. For example what could you do with fueling/boost w/out timing or timing and fuel. Are these selections better with injectors?



I am real curious now and trying to figure all this out. I am not up to the tech. stuff like some.

 

[sodbust]

fuel saver mode !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want one.



Everyone wants 600 hp. NOT ME. I have called, writing, begged, cussed for software or a magic box that would turn down the fuel, on my 24v. . I do not need 250 hp ,, I got my truck to get fuel mileage. So far with 2 different plug ins,, my stock 1951 IHC Pu still gets the most miles at 24mpg. .



Put me in line!



Sodbust

 

[Bob Wagner]

sodbuster you need to send an email or call to get on the list

 

[DieselMinded]

Smarty like the brand "S"?



Yes at the bottom line, Smarty writes the ECM as does the other brand(s).

Yet, that's like comparing ricer to a Cummins.



Have you ever USED brand S's toy? How many times do you have to cycle the key, wait, cycle the key, wait... ??? Well by the time you have cycled the keys the times brands "S" requires you to, with the Smarty it's already all done and said, you're in your truck motoring away while brand "S" has yet to begin an Update.



Nope, they're not created all the same.







:-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf

OK so the Smarty is faster at the downloading process ...



Where does it compare in the "IMPORTANT" areas ?



Super Chips Default Performance Program = Level 9 on Smartys ????



Whats the big Hook Here Marco ??? To me it would seem your claiming HP/TQ which is something you never claimed with the catcher as far as I know ,,, So does the Smarty just changes around certian set points to RETURN THE CONTROL OF THE THROTLE BACK TO THE DRIVER or is it for real HP/TQ Gains and if it is How much More HP/TQ do you claim ?



Ok lets say its 100 more HP than the Super Chips ,,,,there goes everyones VP44 ??? Right ???



My point is there has to be a limit of HP/TQ gains Via Programming the stock ECM before things break ,,, Rather this smarty is a HP/TQ gainer or it does what the Catcher Did and didnt add much if any HP/TQ ?



Marco What made you stop at Level 10 ????



What happens at Level 11 and how close are you walking the line on Level 10 ?



Im not going aginst the grain here just trying to get informed



DM

 

[AKAMAC]

DM, The Catcher fuels faster, the Comp you have is a lot harder on the VP.



Marco, is the smarty ECM or VIN sensitive? I'd like to get my stock one back in as the mule and sell the one I got from Bob. I'm tired of resetting it.

Mike

 

[Bob Wagner]

Mike, The smarty does VIN lock for only one truck and I placed your name on the preorder list.



thank you