smarty

[MarkEkberg]

Just ordered yesterday,

Hoping it is everything people say it is. Ordered the S06. I have done much reading about it.


Has anyone tested mpg on the 1/2 hp setting?

 

[Jim W]

My son use to use the S06-POD Smarty with his 06 Ram. His truck has dual CP3 and over size injectors along with a different turbo, ARP head studs and other features; when he ran the Smarty he was seeing around 20 MPG on the highway. Two years ago he sold his Smarty and went to EFI live. When he ran the Smarty for 6 years in the truck it did run correctly and he had a few issues with the truck.

The truck did over fuel once and he burnt a piston, he has also replaced the 48RFE transmission three times in his truck. The truck is used for Sunday driving mostly now, but he has drag raced with the truck (test and tune event) and has done sled pulls. His truck was in Diesel World last April 2013 I believe.

Jim W.

 

[JJPage]

Just ordered yesterday,

Hoping it is everything people say it is. Ordered the S06. I have done much reading about it.


Has anyone tested mpg on the 1/2 hp setting?

Mark, you are going to love what Smarty does to your 03, but until the thrill of the new found power wears off you will not be seeing better mpg's on any setting...Once you start controlling your right foot, you may be surprised with a small mpg gain. I do not know what 1/2 hp setting you are referring to?

My recommendation is to load SW3, all defaults unless you have tires of a different size(other than stock), then make that correction. Running SW3 all defaults, leave POD at 99, then drive it for a few days in multiple driving conditions, make some notes either mental or write them down. You may notice some peculiar behaviour or just curious about what a making a change would do, do your self a BIG FAVOR, make only 1 option change at a time and write it down. Remember, after you make the(any) option change, you must re-load the SW(3) software, for the option change to take affect.

At the end of the download, before you dis-connect the Smarty, the onscreen directions will have you cycling the key on/off several times and pressing <, >, before download is complete, pay close attention, when done it will tell you to unplug Smarty!

Have someone with a camera handy, you are going to be wearing one of the most magnificent smiles of your lifetime after your first drive with Smarty, be a shame to miss that!

Jess

 

[Prairie Dog]

Someone here (Cerb or Allen?) figured out that running on SW3 with POD on 90 resulted in the same HP but less smoke. I've found that to be true as well.

Scott

 

[JJPage]

Someone here (Cerb or Allen?) figured out that running on SW3 with POD on 90 resulted in the same HP but less smoke. I've found that to be true as well.

Scott

PD, AH64ID actually showed/proved on a dyno that POD 85 would produce the same hp at WOT as 99, and it was his opinion that it was easier/safer to drive at the lower setting during winter conditions. As far as less smoke, makes no difference on my setup, but I can understand how it may depending on other applications.

I do not care for the delayed throttle response that setting the POD below 99 causes on my 03, I prefer the tighter throttle control. Addressing the smoke issue, by leaving my TQ setting on 1, and not running maximum timing, I am running very clean. Sure, if I go WOT from a dead stop or a slow rolling start I can get a pretty good puff, but it cleans right up, not too shabby for a mass produced, generic, boxed TNT software tune. I am positive UDC would take care of that issue, and I have UDC, just not the ability to use it....

As you have figured out by now, and I've stated it numerous time in the past, I'm not a fan of POD. It was, imo, a cheap/easy and ineffective way of changing power "on the fly". It does not feel like it works in correct proportion to pedal position, just does not meet my expectations, so I do not utilize it, if you likey you usey :-laf . Jess

 

[BlackBullit]

Hey you are gonna absolutely LOVE the Smarty. I agree with JJPage, Make sure you got a camera handy for that smile that's gonna spread across your face! :-laf I'v used the POD some but I didn't like the way the transmission shifted, but with a manual that shouldn't be an issue. As far as the 1/2 pwr I wouldn't mess with it, esp after having it on a higher that stock pwr setting, its just waaaay too slow.
Have fun and let us know what you think!

 

[MarkEkberg]

I do not know what 1/2 hp setting you are referring to?

Jess

According to my reading there is a 1/2 hp setting. Not sure if it is referred to as valet or not?

My engine is 305hp. 1/2 that is 150hp or so. My old 1983 F150 had that for hp and yielded close to 20 mpg. I am wondering if you cut the hp, but try to play around and keep some of the tq with the magic buttons you might yield higher mpg gains?

 

[cerberusiam]

With 1/2 power the truck cannot get out of its own way. That setting is for emisisons testing when absolutely no smoke or particulates is the goal. Actually driving with it is DANGEROUS.

SW5, TM 2, TQ 1, RP 1 yields the best mpg on my truck. SW5, TM2, TQ2, RP2 is enough to make the trans beg for mercy.

 

[MarkEkberg]

Sooooo am I going to smoke the clutch right out of the starting gate? Kinda sounds like it.....

 

[cerberusiam]

Sooooo am I going to smoke the clutch right out of the starting gate? Kinda sounds like it.....

Stock clutch, about 40 HP if you are careful. More HP than that or drive it hard and it will slip.

 

[DBarfield]

I too have the Smarty s-06 that was upgraded to the POD software. For a long time I ran Level 5 at 60% with advanced timing and turbo waste gate off. I recently ran through an issue with fuel pressure and hard starting and thought I was having injector issues. I had installed a fuel gauge on the inlet of the CP3 pump. After the filter issue was resolved and I had a fully functional truck again, I noticed that my fuel pressure would still drop to 0 during WOT. I could not feel it driving but the gauge was telling me other things.

I have moved the Smarty to level 3 at 99% and I actually like the driveabilty better now. The fuel gauge still drops to 1-2 psi but I do not usually drive it that close to the edge. Also the boost will go to 30 to 32psig. Not a lot of smoke either.

Bottom line is that the stock fuel pump and filters is the limiting factor now. Good luck.

 

[JJPage]

According to my reading there is a 1/2 hp setting. Not sure if it is referred to as valet or not?

My engine is 305hp. 1/2 that is 150hp or so. My old 1983 F150 had that for hp and yielded close to 20 mpg. I am wondering if you cut the hp, but try to play around and keep some of the tq with the magic buttons you might yield higher mpg gains?

OK, Yes I forgot about that feature. Have never used it that I recall, but maybe something useful...

 

[BlackBullit]

I run mine on 6 or 7. I just love the way it runs on those power settings and when ever I go to a lower pwr it aint long before I go back to that tune.

 

[Shadrach]

I have only used mine on 3 and I don't have a stock clutch and I have an AirDog. It pulls great thru the Rockies. David

 

[Regcabguy]

I run mine on sw#5 default all the time. Runs great but smoky at high elevation. At Mammoth last year,I really had to take it easy going from a full stop. At that elevation the tune reminded me of the initial tune I got in '07.

 

[Prairie Dog]

The stock clutch puts up with quite a bit. I fried mine with a TST PCMR set at something like 7/7 which was way more than the 100 HP level 3 of the Smarty. The thing is it took a lot of abuse to finally slip it and even after doing it many times, I was still able to tow with it and I could keep it from slipping more even when traversing the mountains.
So you may slip the stock clutch eventually but it will take a lot and even then it won't just leave you sitting. It will give you plenty of warning.

 

[JCasper]

My stock clutch took a lot of abuse, but would slip fairly easy. A Smarty is way different then the TST. Smarty fuels from idle, TST is boost dependent. With all that fuel down low in the rpm range it pulls hard, but is harder on the clutch.

 

[MarkEkberg]

Well I guess I will have to plan on a clutch in the next year or so. I am supposed to get it tonight. Hoping to play with it tomorrow if I can sneak some time away from the fam.

 

[BlackBullit]

I run mine on sw#5 default all the time. Runs great but smoky at high elevation. At Mammoth last year,I really had to take it easy going from a full stop. At that elevation the tune reminded me of the initial tune I got in '07.

Hey, that reminds me....My truck is the opposite, it smokes way more at low elevation then at high elevation. Would anyone know why it does that, this has me puzzled.

 

[Prairie Dog]

My stock clutch took a lot of abuse, but would slip fairly easy. A Smarty is way different then the TST. Smarty fuels from idle, TST is boost dependent. With all that fuel down low in the rpm range it pulls hard, but is harder on the clutch.

Interesting, my TST was stronger every where and I would have to be careful or it would try to spin the tires on take off if towing. It smoked down low more too.
I didn't realize the TST was boost dependent. How does it do that since it didn't monitor boost anyplace? Does it just follow the stock boost mapping?

Scott