So what's next???

[ARedetzke]

Today I bottomed out the fuel screw, and turned the star wheel down to 1 turn up from flush. Adjusted the idle back down, and went for a test drive. It was faster, but I'm kind of disappointed that this is all the fuel I can get. I still have the stock turbo, and I still don't have to back out of it until late in 5th gear when it hits about 1350 on the pyro. Aside from the obvious turbo upgrade, which is next on the list, where do I go from here (see sig for mods)??? As soon as I get a turbo, I'll need more fuel, or will a turbo just knock my socks off and make me happy? How do I go about getting more fuel in there? Is it possible with the fuel screw already bottomed? Is this where it starts to get all secretive?? I still want more, is there ever an end to this horrible disease? Sorry for all the questions. By the way, I get to dyno a week from today for the fist time ever, any guesses on numbers?

TIA

AJ

 

[BrandonThompson]

You might try buying a second Gen truck. I hear the pump is better. Who knows if your lucky you might even be able to burn out the clutch because you have to much power.

 

[ARedetzke]

You coming up Friday night, or Saturday morning?

 

[BrandonThompson]

Friday night, broken thumb and all. You got a cold keg for us?

 

[ARedetzke]

Ben took the Keg fridge, but I have some beer. You staying with me or Bret?

 

[sparks57]

First of all, the stock turbo won't last long above 30psi.



Second, you probably have a weak, or close to dead pump. My dieing pump made 42 pounds of boost and could bury the pyro in 4th and 5th. Of course, that was with huge EDMs and a bunch of other goodies and a hx40 hybrid.



I wish I would have dynoed that truck before I sold it...

 

[ARedetzke]

I don't think the pump is almost dead. It flows enough fuel to make 36 lbs of boost with the stock turbo, and now that I've buried the starwheel, the pyro is getting out of control in 4th and 5th. Plus the pump is only a few years old, it was replaced before I got the truck, has way less than 100k on it. Has anyone ever thought of putting something besides a PDR turbo, more specifically a B1 Quick spool? I know they're expensive, just thinking out loud. Oh, and I don't run the turbo over 30 psi very often, but I do think it's on it's last legs.

AJ

 

[bgilbert]

I've thought about a B1. I'm told its a Schwitzer and found on a 3116 Cat, go to big truck junkyard and see if you can find a good one, probly alot cheaper than diesel vendor price, yeah its not 'modified' but it will be better than a h1c maybe... Have ya install a governor spring in the pump? Eccentric cone set to max or even better, grinded down to a thin piece at the top ?? Governor high idle screw opened up a bit? Are ya getting full throttle travel- someone in cab with go pedal mashed and you verify that the throttle is touching the high idle WOT stop?? Checked all intercooler boot connections no leaks? Open exhaust? BHAF ?



Edit: ok nevermind sorry for the beginner questions, I just read your signature... .



I think its time for head studs, oringed head and block, and a big turbo brother...

 

[ARedetzke]

Edit: ok nevermind sorry for the beginner questions, I just read your signature... .



I think its time for head studs, oringed head and block, and a big turbo brother...

BGilbert,

You think a B1 would require all that head work? Do they put out that much boost?

AJ

 

[bgilbert]

BGilbert,

You think a B1 would require all that head work? Do they put out that much boost?

AJ

AJ, probly not, but you're approaching the high end, its just good preventative maintainence. You can go with the 12mm head studs first, no head work, don't even have to remove the head to install them. Go for about $400.

 

[Stomp]

Drugs

There is other options for power. I have seen 50+ pounds of boost before my head gasket blew. I have been running a Piers hx40 with a 16 housing. If you look at my sig you will see the results from my last dyno. On #2 I ran 419hp/1000tq. You are pretty much at the end of the pump settings. If you have everthing maxed out. Yes you could run a B1 or high tech turbo has a HTB2 turbo that should work well with you set up. Have you ported or polished anything yet. There is HP to be gained by doing it. When you start getting around 40+#'s of boost you really need to think about getting your head o-ringed. But look who is talking I blew my head gasket and am now waiting for my new head to come in. I bought a stage 2 ported/polished/o-ringed head from Piers. Believe me it wasnt cheap. I also am planning on putting twins on in the near future. Also you are gong to have to start thinking about your transmission and rear end.



Yes a B1 can put out some serious boost. 50# if you have the fuel to push it.

When you dyno I would guess with a stock turbo you will be in the 320-340 hp range maybe. Let us know how you do.



Stomp

 

[ARedetzke]

Stomp,

You're right, a transmission is probably in the works even before the turbo. I think I mortally wounded this one on vacation a month ago. So a turbo is probably still out on the horizon, but hey a guy can dream, right? I'm kind of hoping to hit 300 hp on the dyno, that would make me plenty happy. I guess we'll wait and see

AJ

 

[Stomp]

Yeah I am on my second getrag and my third rear end. Next time it will be replaced with something better. So what are your temps now? When I had my stock turbo with a 12 housing I would burry the pyro and it went to 1800*. Its not good and I dont recomend it. I am sure you allready know that though.



I am sure that you will get 300hp. You deffinatly need more air and you will be really happy when you get it, but it only lasts a little while. Then you will want more. I dont know if I will ever be happy. My new goal is 500+ with diesel and 600 with drugs. All it takes is money right?



Stomp

 

[ARedetzke]

I guess I'm a chicken sh#@, I usually back out of it at about 1350. Although, since I have put the 4 inch exhuast on, it comes back down FAST. I just put on a new pyro that goes to 1600 ( I think ), and I kind of think that I would be able to kill that in 5th, but only if I had been on it through 3rd and 4th with the hammer down. I'm afraid that once I do get the turbo, I'm just going to go further off the edge. As for the money, I hear they're making more of it, problem is, I still make the same amount!!

AJ

 

[Stomp]

:-laf :-laf :-laf I think I may have to get another job to support my habits. Or maybe a rich girlfriend. Yeah go with the turbo. Is your transmission making any noises you said that you might have hurt it a bit? Does it have any symptoms? If it doesnt get the turbo then save up for the transmission. I always add the power then when it breaks fix it. Maybe not the smart way to go, but it sure was fun before it broke.



Stomp

 

[ARedetzke]

Well, I was towing my jeep and another out to Colorado, and decided to get ballsy and try pulling in 5th, started out great, running 80 down I-70 After it kicked out 3 times violently enough to make me want to cry for my mom, I decided that 4th would have to do if I wanted to make itall the way out and back home. It also kicks out of 1st if I don't hold it in (always has). I'm thinking Quad 4x4 NV4500 kit, but that's a lot of cash, and I'm going to have to figure out a way to sneak it by the wife!! I'd go for the 6 speed, but all I really need is a 5 speed that will let you tow in 5th, and from what I understand Quad 4x4's kit will allow that with the fully splined main shaft.

AJ

 

[Stomp]

The advantage of being single no wife to tell. Yeah it is expensive to convert it. If I have to change mine out I think I will go with the 6 speed. I dont tow anything, but with the hills around here 4th gear in a six speed is sweet. As it is right now I run in 3rd and it doesnt leave me much left on the tach. I hope my transmission that I have now lasts a while so I can save up for a transmission now. I still have to get my head and my twins on.



Stomp

 

[ARedetzke]

You lucky basturd. I love my wife, but man, the single life was the way to go! I don't know if I would go back, but it seems like I used to have money coming out of my ass before I got married. On a serious note, the NV5600 swap looks like a real bear, not to mention the $2K extra that it costs. Once upon a time, I would have had the time, balls, and money to try it, but that was before a mortgage payment. At least I have guys like you to live vicariously through! ( and I'm not even old yet, how sad is that!!!) If you do the NV5600, let me know how it goes, you never know when you might win the lotto!

AJ

 

[Stomp]

Well I do have a pretty serious girlfriend. She is pretty cool with whatever I do, but I am sure if I put a ring on her finger it might change a bit. The only reason I didnt do the swap already is the fact that I bought a parts pickup and it had a reman getrag in it. I am running out of parts on my spare though. I used the transmission and the rear end. All I have left is the front axle and the motor. I should have bought a newer parts pickup and then I would have the dana 80 rear and a nv5600 transmission. Oh well too late now. I wonder how long this transmission is going to last when I bump up the power some more.



Stomp

 

[ARedetzke]

1) Hold off on the ring, trust me life changes, make sure she's the right one, you don't want to give her half your stuff.

2)I hope I don't start going through rear ends, but then again I'm not near your power levels, and although I do have great big heavy ass feet, nobody calls me Stomp, YET!!!

3) You let me know if you do the 5600. I'm capable, I just need to know what to tell the wife, when she asks why it's taking me 2 weeks to change the transmission!!

AJ