Here I am

SO who's paying for these protestors?

Attention: TDR Forum Junkies
To the point: Click this link and check out the Front Page News story(ies) where we are tracking the introduction of the 2025 Ram HD trucks.

Thanks, TDR Staff

Our fighting Men

A second unnessary war

I tried to get a social security # for the beast so's I could claim it as a "dependant" but the tax man said no-go. :{



I don't mind my bucks going to pay those fighting for our freedom.

It's the "Social"/Socialist:confused: " progams that chafe my hide.
 
Glad to see I am not alone. I have been saying we should fill the Statue of Liberty with protesters and drop it on France for weeks now. I think the college kids are using anything they can to have a party (protest) in the streets. I doubt many of them have any idea what they are doing. To bad we can't send them somewhere they can be with Muslim extremists for a while, that would change thier tune.



France, The pope, and god knows who else need to look at reports of a suspected Huge chemical weapons facility discovered yesterday. They ain't makin that stuff to kill weeds in the garden. These are FANATICAL people who want us dead. They do not have the same value for human life that we do and the only solution is to kill huge numbers of them (the muslim extremists), anything less will leave us with big problems for many years to come.



Thanks for letting me vent!



Funny how the Pope does not want to talk about the Child abuse problem in the Catholic church but he has the time to criticize us for defending ourselves. He's all wet, but people will still go to church and send him $$. Ridiculous, people need to think a little. Misguided blind faith is what this whole deal is about to start with!
 
Thanks CF!

Thanks CF! :) I just wanted you to know that I WAS talking about my trucks bombing addiction (not Baghdad's) so that you know your money is going to the right place :-laf
 
Re: You guys

Originally posted by Champane Flight

Are you saying we don't need people with determination and strong wills in this world? :D



Only if they also have brains! Mike Tyson has determination and a strong will- do you admire him?
 
It doesn't sound too bad when you take GW's $78 billion for a 30 day war and break it down to only $1. 8 million per second. Many say this price is way too low and figure it will run more like 200 billion ($4. 6M/sec) for the war effort only.

According to that article the high end cost of a demonstration, $200,000 is is equal to about one tenth of a second of the low end war estimate. Big Deal
 
Direct Action, a San Francisco Bay-area group of anti-war veterans, has been drawing up their own battle plan should there be a war.





That's from the Fox news story. Anti-war veterans - isn't that an oxymoron. IMHO when they start shutting down buildings etc, then protesting=terrorism.





Jim
 
Originally posted by illflem

It doesn't sound too bad when you take GW's $78 billion for a 30 day war and break it down to only $1. 8 million per second. Many say this price is way too low and figure it will run more like 200 billion ($4. 6M/sec) for the war effort only.

According to that article the high end cost of a demonstration, $200,000 is is equal to about one tenth of a second of the low end war estimate. Big Deal



Freedom from tyranny isn't cheap. I'll pay whatever it costs to rid the world of these people. Money is no object when it comes to protecting my family, myself and my fellow citizens.



Hey Bill, just got this from Foxnews.com:



All are "bound together by a great cause -- to defend the American people and advance the universal hope of freedom," Bush said.



But maintaining these global anti-terrorism efforts means more money, he said.



The bulk of the request, $62. 6 billion, will support U. S. troops both in Iraq and other operations related to the broader war on terrorism.



The request also provides $4. 2 billion for domestic security and about $7. 8 billion for aid to Israel, Afghanistan and other United States allies and money to increase security for American diplomats abroad.



The rest of the money will go to humanitarian aid and reconstruction in a "free Iraq," the president said.



"This nation and our coalition partners are committed to making sure the Iraqi citizens who have suffered under a brutal tyrant have the food and medicine needed as soon as possible," Bush said of the Iraqi people.



The package will help pay for transportation of forces to the Persian Gulf region, supplying troops and maintaining equipment. It also will allow the Pentagon to replace cruise missiles, smart bombs and other high-tech munitions, and provide combat pay to troops.



In the chunk of change assigned to the Pentagon, $30. 3 billion goes to "coercive diplomacy," $13. 1 billion is for military conflict, $12 billion for stability and transition and $7. 2 billion for reconstitution, according to an official breakdown given to reporters by defense officials.



Coercive diplomacy refers to the amount of money spent prior to March 20, or the beginning of the war, on pre-combat work with coalition partners and transporting troops and equipment overseas.



The $13. 1 billion refers to the actual fight.



Congressional aides said the request was based on the assumption that it will take 30 days to oust Saddam, after which the United States will send humanitarian aid and help rebuild the embattled Persian Gulf country.



"We have anticipated a relatively short, highly intense period of conflict," said a senior defense official.



Some money will go toward making sure a stable post-Saddam structure is put in place. That structure will be dictated by internal resistance and the level of support the coalition receives from the Iraqi population. The $12 billion also includes $489. 3 million for oil field and facility repair and firefighting.



The $7. 2 billion will go mainly to depot maintenance, spare parts, and, in some respects, replacement of materials expended during the conflict.



So, it's not just for the first 30 days... :)
 
Fuzzy Math

I just want the die-hard anti guys to know that some figures of war costs (not just what Bush asked for) is grossly inflated to include fuel, cost of paying troops, maintenance costs, etc. etc. I hate to break it to you but ALLOT of these costs are being paid already.

For instance you pay me whether I'm fighting a war or just practicing, or even when I'm on leave. Missiles will be replaced when out dated, whether used or not. Thousands of Aircraft will be burning fuel and requiring maintenance, whether we are at war or not.



Will it cost more? Of course, but not as much as some extremists would have you believe. Inf act, I remember the governor wanted to shut down the full time guard for one day to save money and all the yahoo's were screaming' "we pay for em they better be working!" Made me laugh knowing how many more dollars were being spent because of ignorant people. Just for a little example: 1 CH-47 helicopter burns 1028 gallons in 3 hours, costs $10,000 per flight hour for maintenance, when I was in 101st we usually flew 5 or 6 at a time (just in my unit, there were 3 others) for 4 or 5 hours at a time. You do the math. That doesn't even include what the soldiers flying them are getting paid.



I don't usually get answers to my questions if someone really has to think about it, but how much did those twin towers cost us? How much did that effect your 401k? Let me guess... GB's fault too?

And of course the hardest one to answer since it is yours already and you don't need to worry about it (at the moment) because allot of us are protecting it for you, but how much would you be willing for someone else to pay for YOUR freedom? I think you would be singing a different tune if someone was raping your wife, beating you to a pulp, or even killing your children. You have the luxury of complaining about money being taken from your pocket (which means you will miss a movie or even a dinner out) because you are lucky enough to be here and have a truck (at least) that other people couldn't buy in a lifetime.



I'm done for now, please tell me more about how your enriched lives are being infringed upon.
 
jim S you're so right!!!

The qoute from JimS:

we should round all the protestors up and send them to a communist country, might open a few eyes

Jim

exactly my toughts,or better yet sdend them all together with all those "peace" advocats to Iraq their good man Saddam will open their eyes for sure!

I am a german and have shame for the general attitude in Europe to the things happening right now. They have a very short memory,they have forgotten the Hitler and the dictatorships,have forgotten they are made free by AMERICANS!

Had to vent,sorry!

Werner:mad:
 
And to all the pro-war people?

I have this feeling we will not see peace again in my lifetime. GW can fit a lot of thirty day wars in his remaining two years. And then the next guy will have to try to clean up his mess without us looking like idiots.



We are not Iraqi and could not be taken (without many deaths including our own) by the likes of Saddam or any other dictator out there. If the people of these countries had the cohones (testicular fortitude) , they would take care of their own Saddams. Just try to imagine a force of Iraqi Republican guard coming into a small town in Texas! POOR devils! :D
 
Back
Top