something about this just pts a smile on my face

[Alan Reagan]

I've got to show this to my brother in law. He started his and walked away. It died with the headlights on. He had used so much juice that when he came out of the house, it wouldn't even turn over. So my wife took the jeep over. After about 10 minutes of charging, still no good. The glow plugs and heavy starter draw wouldn't let it crank. So I took the Cummins over and got him cranked. He started to get out and leave it idling again until I suggested he drive it around and warm it up so we didn't have to go through this again.

 

[Grey Wolf]

Has anyone seen this video made by a Duramax owner, talk about a loyal GM man... ... ... .



http://dieselram.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=198465&page=1&nt=4&fpart=1

 

[HOBrian]

ROTFLMAO :-laf :-laf

I think Old Man Winter gives Fords a hard enough time. Ya gotta imagine the "oh crap" feeling a Ford salesperson has when some schmo off the street comes in and says "yeah I'd like to test drive that new Powerstroke out front!", it's 20 degrees out, and the truck is 100 feet from the nearest outlet. OH NO!!!!!!!! :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[rbattelle]

I think Old Man Winter gives Fords a hard enough time. Ya gotta imagine the "oh crap" feeling a Ford salesperson has when some schmo off the street comes in and says "yeah I'd like to test drive that new Powerstroke out front!", it's 20 degrees out, and the truck is 100 feet from the nearest outlet. OH NO!!!!!!!! :-laf :-laf :-laf

Maybe next time it's freezing here I'll go to the Ford dealer up the street and do exactly that. Just to see what they do.



Ryan

 

[JUeckert]

i have exposed all my diesels pickups[fords,gm's and dodges] to low teen and some single digit temps many times. the only ones to ever give any issues were the older gm diesels,usually after a few trys they were running as well. clean filters,good starting systems,and proper oil can make all the difference. best starting diesels i have ever owned were in case equipment[older] and international trucks/tractors with dt466 engines. they start with no aids at all,in the same fore mentioned temps.

 

[cojhl2]

Actually, I've been a Ford man my whole life (don't let this get out). If they had an inline 6 in a F350 that's what I'ed be driving. These gasser V8's with diesel heads are just BS though. It should only take one peek under the hood to send a person running. A plumbing nighmare!

Besides... this is TDR... we're supposed to give Ford a hard time.

Mike

I thought that was a Corn Binder diesel from the ground up not a reworked Gas engine!



I noticed he had the headlights on. We used to be taught to do that as it would kinda warm the battery(s) up before hitting it/them with the dead short starter. Is that still the current teaching?



Also he shoulda parked it facing the building. . (Could this start a argument re "Wind Chill"?

 

[59Turbo]

Here's another cool vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaFEXgvAAGA&NR

 

[mhenon]

I thought that was a Corn Binder diesel from the ground up not a reworked Gas engine!

You could be right. It just seems like a diesel should be inline and have six cylinders.

Mike

 

[JasonCzerak]

I had one really cold start in my truck since new. -10 open parking lot here in MSP sat for 12+ hours in 20-30mph winds. It was so cold that the seat was frozen, and you had to stand up on the clutch to get it to move



cycled the grind once, waited 10 seconds. cycled again. waited. and after the 3rd time she cranked a bit slow but fired up and went to 1000rpm instantly.



She felt like she was running on 3 cylinders. I sat for 10 minutes before I moved



As I recall I never did get a warm cab until I was just about home (20 miles).



Now, my truck is spoiled. I keep a 150 foot cord in the cab. At home, it's plugged in before I get to bed unless it's in hte single digits or lower.



And at work, all day long even up to 40 degrees out I keep her plugged in.



I very rarely see the grid heater cycle I see it cycle more when it's 50 out then I do when it's 10

 

[cojhl2]

You could be right. It just seems like a diesel should be inline and have six cylinders.

Mike

I agree ya can't beat a straight 6 mhenon! However from the real standpoint there are diesels with other than a straight 6 config.



It's just that most Class 8s use a straight 6.

 

[rbattelle]

It's just that most Class 8s use a straight 6.

If you think about it, on-highway and construction are the only diesel application with a majority of I6 configurations. Most of the big stuff uses a vee configuration: locomotives, ships, and power generation. It would be impractical to make an I16. Some of the largest ships, however, do run up to I14, I believe.



Although the inline configuration has numerous benefits over the vee, in large engines packaging often takes precedent.



My point is that we should remember that although us proponents of the inline configuration love to point out that most class-8s use I6's, the V8 guys could easily point out that most locomotives (which are, in my opinion, FAR superior to any class-8 truck) use the vee configuration.



Ryan

 

[JasonCzerak]

. .





My point is that we should remember that although us proponents of the inline configuration love to point out that most class-8s use I6's, the V8 guys could easily point out that most locomotives (which are, in my opinion, FAR superior to any class-8 truck) use the vee configuration.



Ryan

If you look at the vee configuration of the little v8 diesels, the bottom end is very similar to that of a 350 chubby. If you compare the bottom end of a locomotive Vee, you'll see it's a completely different monster.



If you note on a locomotive Vee configuration how there is one huge rod and One huge barring for 2 cylinders. This allows for bigger barrings to be used as apposed 2 to smaller onces off set a little, just like the Inline motors.

 

[mhenon]

It will be interesting to see what comes out of the small V-6 lineup in the future. You have to like the simplicity of an inline design though.

Mike

 

[Signal73]

Quick wheres the link to the worlds most powerful diesel as I recall thats an Inline

 

[rbattelle]

If you note on a locomotive Vee configuration how there is one huge rod and One huge barring for 2 cylinders. This allows for bigger barrings to be used as apposed 2 to smaller onces off set a little, just like the Inline motors.

Great point. Don't get me wrong, I think inline is the way to go. I just thought I'd balance things a little by pointing out that there are good vee configurations available. Just not in an on-highway vehicle.



Ryan

 

[nickleinonen]

If you note on a locomotive Vee configuration how there is one huge rod and One huge barring for 2 cylinders. This allows for bigger barrings to be used as apposed 2 to smaller onces off set a little, just like the Inline motors.

typical emd Vee engine bottom end picture 1

typical emd Vee engine bottom end picture 2

emd rod bearings [same used on all modern emd 2 cycle engines]

new ge gevo 12 cylinder vee engine bottom end [like a gasser, but bigger]

picture of how the ge fdl series engine bottom end is arranged

 

[JasonCzerak]

typical emd Vee engine bottom end picture 1

typical emd Vee engine bottom end picture 2

emd rod bearings [same used on all modern emd 2 cycle engines]

new ge gevo 12 cylinder vee engine bottom end [like a gasser, but bigger]

picture of how the ge fdl series engine bottom end is arranged

Interesting. I like the fork idea.



thanks for the pics.

 

[JUeckert]

the biggest reasons you hardly see v8 engines in class 8 trucks are many. xtra weight,more expense to produce, and harder to do major repairs are the most common reasons. better technology has made it possible to obtain more power out of inline engines,where as use to if you wanted max power a v8 was the best choice.

 

[cojhl2]

the biggest reasons you hardly see v8 engines in class 8 trucks are many. xtra weight,more expense to produce, and harder to do major repairs are the most common reasons. better technology has made it possible to obtain more power out of inline engines,where as use to if you wanted max power a v8 was the best choice.

Actually a couple of years ago for a few days I drove a F900 with a Detroit V8 2Stroke. I kind of liked it.



Also my neighbor for quite a spell drove a KW Log Truck with a V8 Detroit 2stroke. He loved it. I think he told me onetime it was over 500hp.



I have no idea what the F900 had as I only was on flat ground with a dump bed.

 

[JUeckert]

way i hear,the v8 powered class 8 trucks are still common in your region. not very many around my parts. i was always fond of them,[ certain ones]absolute power!