Stalling at complete stop

[Bmoore2]

Hey guys,

Over the past couple weeks when coming to a complete stop the truck will drop RPMs then stall. It doesn't do it all the time just randomly. While the truck is moving you cant tell there is a problem. Only when it comes to a complete stop. Really frustrating not even making the first payment and already having problems. Would this problem throw a code in the back ground for the dealer to see? Its not throwing a CEL.

Any advice is much appreciated.


Bobby

 

[Bob4x4]

Since you say you have not made a payment yet and your sig says the truck is a 14,I am going to guess this is a new to you truck.Your issue is not a common one.If i was to buy a used vehicle I would verify all the service was performed.Fluids,filters etc.Now days I would also have all the software updated.A more detailed description of what happens when it stalls may help guide the direction to take.There may be clues stored in the data available in witech for the dealer to point to your next move

 

[Bmoore2]

Thanks for the quick reply Bob.

Yes, its a new to me truck. When I bought the truck on 2/7/2017 it had 49,500 miles. I verified all the service records. It just had oil and fuel filter changed 7 miles before I purchased it. When I come to a complete stop, the RPM seem to surge from around 700 to about 800 then drop to around 600 then stall all in a matter of seconds. This only happens when the truck comes to a complete stop. Put the truck in neutral and restart and it fires up and goes as it should. The first time this happened it stalled 5 times in a row (each time I stopped) at a half tank of fuel. I stopped put fuel in it and the issue went away. 2 weeks later around a half tank of fuel it done the same thing 3 or 4 times. I added fuel and the problem went away. Today at over 3/4 tank it done it once. Didn't repeat the stall the next 4 or 5 times I had to stop on my way to work. I know the amount of fuel probably has nothing to do with it but it was just something that I noticed.

 

[Road Dog]

A truck can stall like you describe if the torque converter clutches remain locked. I would start there. I have no idea how the newer trannys control the clutches but I'm sure there's a computer involved.

You can try shifting to neutral when you're coming to a stop.

 

[Bmoore2]

Figured I would just give an update on this. Took it to the dealer. They informed me that no codes were found and there are no software updates for the truck. Guess ill just chalk it up and blame it on goblins.



Bobby

 

[Newsa]

It will stop stalling when you start making payments.

 

[transe]

This could be Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) drag, but typically with TCC drag the truck will want to "pull through the brakes" when coming to a stop (so you have to mash on the brakes in order to stop the truck). Since it doesn't sound like that's happening, I'd suspect an engine idle problem.

 

[Bmoore2]

It will stop stalling when you start making payments.

Actually made my first payment right after this post. only 59 more.
It has not stalled anymore since the original post. Hopefully it was just a fluke. We are about to pull our camper for the first time in a coupe weeks. With my luck that is when the problem will start again. LOL

 

[Hoefler]

You don't mention which transmission you have, if you have the Aisin, it has a 30,000 mile fluid change cycle. You might try a fluid change.

 

[Bmoore2]

I just wanted to update this thread. Driving to work this morning and guess what. The truck started stalling out again. Immediately took it to the dealer. Lucky for me the shop Forman was just punching in. Took him for a ride and thank god the truck stalled and acted up with him in the vehicle. Just got a call back and they are telling me that they are going to have to replace the torque converter. All I can say at this point is thank god for warranties and I hope this is the end of my worries for a while.

 

[Vt Redneck]

I have a bad feeling I am experiencing a similar issue that may end up with the same result. Mine is a 2013 68RFE with 108xxx on the clock. When cold and first driving the truck, if you come to or almost come to a stop within the first mile or so, the truck will shudder and not want to disengage the transmission from the feel of it. As mentioned in a prior reply, it requires more than normal brake application to come to a stop. I don't know how quick or at what speeds the torque converters lock up, or if they lock up, in the first or second gear range, but I suspect it is a locked up converter not wanting to release. Any thoughts or info/known issues relating to this would be appreciated!

 

[transe]

Does your trans also feel like it's slipping on a cold start? If you start it up after sitting overnight, drop it right into gear (either Drive or Reverse), and try to take off, does it feel like the trans is slowly "oozing" into gear? If so, then change the spin-on filter (inside the trans), and use a new Mopar filter with part number 05179267AD. In most cases, that will take care of it.

If you don't have the "slipping" feel after a cold start, but your TCC drag is only after a cold start (works fine once warmed up a bit), then I would drop the pan and check both filters to make sure they are properly installed, not loose or fallen out, not cracked, not split open along the seam, etc. Check that the snout of the main (flat) filter is pushed up THROUGH the seal in the pump housing, and make sure the metal flange of that seal is FLUSH against the pump casting all the way around.

Oh, and before you do either of these, check your fluid level (idling in Park) and confirm that it's within the acceptable range (not several quarts low).

 

[Vt Redneck]

Does your trans also feel like it's slipping on a cold start? If you start it up after sitting overnight, drop it right into gear (either Drive or Reverse), and try to take off, does it feel like the trans is slowly "oozing" into gear? If so, then change the spin-on filter (inside the trans), and use a new Mopar filter with part number 05179267AD. In most cases, that will take care of it.

If you don't have the "slipping" feel after a cold start, but your TCC drag is only after a cold start (works fine once warmed up a bit), then I would drop the pan and check both filters to make sure they are properly installed, not loose or fallen out, not cracked, not split open along the seam, etc. Check that the snout of the main (flat) filter is pushed up THROUGH the seal in the pump housing, and make sure the metal flange of that seal is FLUSH against the pump casting all the way around.

Oh, and before you do either of these, check your fluid level (idling in Park) and confirm that it's within the acceptable range (not several quarts low).

Thank you. I have not experienced any type of slippage feeling thus far, in fact it seems to be very solid on shifting, sometimes a bit more harsh than I would like on downshift even. But it so far has been only when cold, and usually within a mile of driving goes away. Would be great if it is just a filter issue. I think the trans was serviced at a BP dealer or shop recently before I purchased the truck (in February this year) but I have no idea what they did for sure, just found some slip in the owners packet in the glove box indicating it had some sort of fluid service there. I think the 100,000 mile services. So it would be worth checking out, and probably making sure the right fluid gets put back in it also. Great info, thanks again!