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I do have other things to do but not right now. Guys Youngstown was probably 100 miles or so SE from where I grew up just west of Cleveland. Cleveland had a steel mill area called The Flats. And the Flats was served by ore boats on the Cuyahoga River made famous for actually catching fire from so much pollution at the time. You could see the smoke, smell the mills and easily spot a mill-workers car from the thick coat of mill dust that just coated the cars. My Dad spent his career after the Army selling steel to all sorts of job shops throughout the NE OH area.
JR can add to this I bet cause he's pretty close to the region, but you grew up tough in this region of the Ohio River Valley on the PA, WV and OH sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hlfqggGOZw
This one shows a Cleveland shoreline fixture for decades. These monsters worked seemingly effortlessly looking like a creature from a Star Wars movie unloading ore from the giant ore boats that sailed Lake Erie including one of the most famous ever to not reach port in the Great Lakes, the Edmund Fitzgerald. Notice where the operator rides, just above the clam shell and how they cleaned out the last crumbs of ore from the bottom of the hull.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RJfnk2S330
Gary
JR can add to this I bet cause he's pretty close to the region, but you grew up tough in this region of the Ohio River Valley on the PA, WV and OH sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hlfqggGOZw
This one shows a Cleveland shoreline fixture for decades. These monsters worked seemingly effortlessly looking like a creature from a Star Wars movie unloading ore from the giant ore boats that sailed Lake Erie including one of the most famous ever to not reach port in the Great Lakes, the Edmund Fitzgerald. Notice where the operator rides, just above the clam shell and how they cleaned out the last crumbs of ore from the bottom of the hull.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RJfnk2S330
Gary
