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After spending 6 weeks looking at 5th wheels, I seem to find myself more confused now than when I started. :confused: I think I've overwhelmed that pentium 386 brain of mine :rolleyes: . At any point of confusion, I think I've seen all that I can in my price range. We are toying with a Fleetwood wilderness, and also with a sportsmen. Seem to like the sportsmen floorplan the best, but it's about 6k more money as well. I've been cautioned against "cheap" and "inferior construction" in the Fleetwood, but it appears to be as well made as any of the others. Alot of you had early suggested the Arctic Fox, which we found to be a very nice coach- just a little too nice (immenities) for us. Is there a well made entry level that stands out bett than the rest?? (My wife just says to make up my mind already!!):)



Kev
 
Your like me. i look and look and procrastinate until my wife goes nuts and just agrees with whatever i say. ;) i can't speak for the fleetwood personaly but i can say that most units are equal except there are always a few that stand out for best quality. #1- my advice is first find the unit thats asthetically appealing to you. #2-second is the dealer within reasonable distance from your home. (long distance dealers are a pain). #3-when those two criteria are met see if it's within your price range. if so buy ---if not, see #1. I would do a long distance dealer if the unit was top quality. GOOD LUCK!
 
We have owned Komfort, Field & Stream and now have a Wildwood. I think they are built down in your area. They are a cut above the Fleetwoods and the prices are right. Check them out. Just My Opinion!;) ;)
 
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Kev:

My wife and I looked for 5 years for trailers with the floor plan and price range for us. Went to all the shows and asked people towing when we would fill up at stations how they liked their units. The price range was from $22,000 to $61,000. I liked one certain one but my wife didn't like the interior color. She liked the Alumilite till she saw the one we bought. The trailer we bought has some warts I think could have been done away with with a little thought but I guess that would have cost more.



We bought the Thor of Cal. "Wanderar" Deluxe. It has a rear living room ad a center kitchen. The most important thing is the main room is private with a door. I didn't want one with the sink in there too. The trailer is 31. 5 feet and tows very well. On the scale I have 2,600 lbs of pin weight and 10,700 lbs. on the trailer axles. This is wet and on the road. I have 19,960 lbs total weight with a load of fuel. The frame is wood and thats what I wanted because in my experence with metal,48 yrs. , aluminum sweats and the water has to go somewhere and I don't want it inside the walls. Some folks don't believe that, but its still so.



I know this is kind of lenghty but I know the pain of shopping for a trailer. I know my brain had a short circuit.



We payed here in Georgia $28,000 for the unit and since have had an Onan Gen. installed and now can go to the NASCAR tracks chill out.



This is just something else to consider your search.



Preston:D :D
 
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I too spent a lot of time looking at trailers. Fleetwood as been around for a long time. I think fleetwood is better than a sportsmen, wilderness is a nice trailer. I settled on a cardinal, they are very well made and you get more bang for the buck, cardinal is between entry level and high end. Very important too is the dealer you buy from, make sure their service is good. Think auto dealers have a bad name for service and quality, you could be in for a big surprise, rv dealers are the worse I've ever seen for sales and even worse service. Also if you buy new there is a lot of room for price negotiation, take a least 20% of the list and go from there, good luck.
 
Dkevdog



the Arctic Fox, which we found to be a very nice coach- just a little too nice (immenities) for us.



Did you look at the Nash like from Northwood. The floorplans, quality, and construction are basically the same as the Arctic Fox, but many of the immenities are optional. If you do not need all the neat toys, you might be able to spec a Nash alot cheaper than the Arctic Fox.
 
I've done lots of comparing and dollar/sq. ft, I don't think you can beat Fleetwood. I'm on my second one and haven't had any significant problems. Find a good dealer near by. You'll need him at some point. I also like two year warranty.



Bottom line IMO, you get what you pay for. Just go for it and don't look back. You'll probably upgrade before it gets out of warranty anyway.
 
Choosing the right RV

My wife and I are doing the same thing you are doing right now. We are going to live in the RV full time and we are going to be on the road for the first year of retirement. There are so many models out there and it is difficult to choose and choosing means compromise all the time. We will take a long time to decide because this is an important decision.



We have owned a Terry, a Jayco and now a King of the Road. We had very poor perfomance from the Terry (Fleetwood product), good performance from the Jayco, and excellent performance from the King of the Road. Does more money mean excellence, I don't think so. But some of the factors that you will consider are:



* budget - range of expense.



* conveniences and add on's that you must have versus those that are nice to have.



* weight - a big factor even with a Dodge 3500 - the newer production units are using more light weight materials so that you can tow longer units with less weight. This is especiall true with repect to the KOR which has wood frame construction versus those that are built with aluminum.



* warranty - more manufacturers are coming out with 3 year warrantees. Alfa is now offering a 5 year warrantee on their products.



* Dealership - are they trustworthy and do competent work. Check out the reputation when a situation is severe.



* Your lifestyle - how do you want to live when you are in the unit. Do you like a rear kitchen, center kitchen, rear living area, and how many are going to be in your unit? (2 - 4)?



* Sleeping area - Can you stand up straight in the main sleeping area?



* Storage - Will you be able to bring you tools, chairs, and other RV accessories and recreational items as required?



* Bathroom - very important - do you have a shower or bath that you can actually stand and move around in? Do you want an enclosed lavatory?



* Slide outs - generally two slide outs are very common, but most units going out today have 3 for more room and liveability. If you are thinking about resale, then you should consider more slide outs in the future.



* Travel - are you going to stay on rv parks where there are full hook ups, i. e. electric, water and sewer, or are you going to go off the beaten path and be on your own. This is important for carrying fresh water and black and gray water storage.



* Hitch weight on the bed of the pick up?



* Dealerships across the country - will there be locatable dealerships should you venture forth beyond your state lines?



* Can you live with your decision for five years? RV's depreciate just like cars and you need to have break point for change. Is this going to be big enough for your needs as you grow and change?



I wish you success in what you are looking for. It is a difficult choice so do not rush it. Time is on your side. Some other manufacturers that you should consider:



* Nu-Wa - they make a variety of lines with Hitchhiker being most noticeable.



* Carriage - Cameo, Carri-lite, Carriage, etc.



* Newmar - American Star, Kountry Star, MountainAir, etc.



* Keystone - Cougar, Sprinter, Montana, etc.



* Alfa - Sun, Ideal, Gold, etc.



Do yourself a favor and check some of these brands out. Also, the Fall is the best time of the year to buy a previous years model if you find the floor plan that you like leftover. The new model year begins mostly in July and August for the 2002 models. Dealers are anxious to reduce 2001 inventory by the Fall.



Use the Internet! Do not feel that you have to buy this product in your local. Shop the USA. You will find that there are big differences in pricing on the RV of your choice in different geographies.



And lastly, use competition to your advantage. And do not be concerned about pricing the competition against each other to lower the price and obtain more benefit for yourself. Leverage this aspect until it is absolutely exhausted. You may want to visit:



http://www.rvamerica.com - it is a good website that will provide owner oppinions on their trailer purchases as well as dealerships and information about manufacturers. Go to http://www.rvtraderonline.com and do a search for fifth wheels within your price range and see what comes up. You may be surprised at what you can get for your money.



Hope that this might help since we are doing the same thing now.



Regards,



Ed
 
Ed pretty much covered everything. I too have a King Of The Road and have been very happy with it. The thing we like about it is the center kitchen. We have the model that has a door on both sides of the RV, and We really like that feature.



We spend a lot of time traveling around the US and found that people with rear kitchens hate them. Nothing will stay in place, dishes break, etc. With the center kitchen everything stays in place. Mixers, toaster, etc all never move from the counter surface. Keep that in mind when you buy.



Dewdo in the other Washington
 
Our second trailer is still an entry level trailer. We looked everywhere and my headache was to the point I was ready to forget the whole mess. My favorite was a Ceder Creek 32' 5th wheel. It was built like a fortress underneath and inside. 16" aluminum wheel on 8 lug hubs. The slide out was flawless in apearance inside and out. No carpet or wood showing and no unusual cutouts for the mechanism. If I'd have had $35k, it would be mine today. Everything else we saw that was built as rugged (sp?) was more in the $60k range.

We finally settled for (and I mean settle for) a 25ft Jayco 237 Qwest. For a piddly $15k, it is a very well built trailer underneath. Inside is kinda plain but laid out nice. Keeping in mind that it's an entry level weekender and vacation trailer, we're very happy with it. It tows great, is very solid, has not had any problems at all, and the price can't be beat. I'm thinking for price verses product, I might seriously look into the Jayco Designer Series when we decide to upgrade.
 
Originally posted by dewdo

We spend a lot of time traveling around the US and found that people with rear kitchens hate them. Nothing will stay in place, dishes break, etc. With the center kitchen everything stays in place. Mixers, toaster, etc all never move from the counter surface.



Good point, Dewdo, I never thought about that.



Ed, thanks for the criteria list. Very helpful. I think I will buy a used one, as mentioned on one of the other 5th wheel topics on this forum.

Andy
 
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