Off Roading Stuck Hummer story

[MD500E]

I have owned a H1 for the last 10 years. The only thing I really don't like is the lack of power. In deep mud with that much weight and no power to clear the tires, it can be a real problem. Many don't like the with but I found it sometimes helpful when I used to go 4 wheeling in west virginia. Lots of trails had deep ruts that hung up lots of lifted trucks, and the hummers extra with always had 2 tires out of the muddy ruts.



You guys are right about many H2 and H1 owners think they are driving the most unstoppable off road vehicle in the world. I have been to Moab a few times and seen how hummers compare to the trick stuff out there!! :-laf

 

[pgleavitt]

Saw this on the back of a jeep that was setup for serious off road.

"H2 RECOVERY VEHICLE"

 

[Morse]

The H2 wasn't made to compete against custom modded trucks. . Anyone that says they can't be stopped, hasn't been around much. . They do ride "very" well for an SUV though. . Better than the Escalade (we've had two of each). . If they had a diesel, I'd love it. . The mileage is horrible. . They do well off road for a completely stock vehicle. . And yes, they cost more than a new diesel pickup, though they definitely perform better than a stock diesel truck off road. . It's all in what ya want. .

 

[Bertram65]

Gotta agree they are a pretty decent truck, after all they come with 35" tires and 3/4 ton running gear, I do not know why they get such a bad rap. There is nothing out there except the H1 that can match it off road stock.

 

[JFitzgerald]

Gotta agree they are a pretty decent truck, after all they come with 35" tires and 3/4 ton running gear, I do not know why they get such a bad rap. There is nothing out there except the H1 that can match it off road stock.

Do you really think it would be more capable than a stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon? The Rubicon can lock both axles, not just the rear as with the H2. It would be interesting to see them tested off road.

 

[Bertram65]

Do you really think it would be more capable than a stock Jeep Wrangler Rubicon? The Rubicon can lock both axles, not just the rear as with the H2. It would be interesting to see them tested off road.

Sure the Rubicon is more manuverable, has a lower crawl ratio, and lockers front and rear, it is better for rock crawling, but for most other off road situations I think the H2 is superior.

 

[MickeyMiller]

Just to stir it up a little... What about the Power Wagon? Better articulation with solid front axel and sway bar disconnect; better traction with lockers at both ends. Power Wagon looses on approach & departure angles.....

 

[Dl5treez]

Sorry guys, but in a stock vs. stock vs. stock vs. stock etc etc etc 4x4 shootout, a wise man's money will be on a Land Rover.

 

[Rattler]

Just to stir the pot a little more. Jeeps are not all there is to off-roading. I had a cj7 for a year and always felt like i was sitting on a bar stool anytime we were trailriding. I know they were not sreet legal , but a group of us rode volkswagen based buggys with only one wheel drive and even the built jeeps could not climb with us. The jeepers always seemed to be the rudeist trailriders at our area also. (if you were not driving a jeep they would not even speak to you)WE always rode at Turkey Bay in Ky.

 

[JFitzgerald]

Just to stir it up a little... What about the Power Wagon? Better articulation with solid front axel and sway bar disconnect; better traction with lockers at both ends. Power Wagon looses on approach & departure angles.....

Yeah, I should have mentioned the PW too. Nice to see things going in this direction at DC. Need to offer the CTD as an option though!

 

[JFitzgerald]

Just to stir the pot a little more. Jeeps are not all there is to off-roading. I had a cj7 for a year and always felt like i was sitting on a bar stool anytime we were trailriding. I know they were not sreet legal , but a group of us rode volkswagen based buggys with only one wheel drive and even the built jeeps could not climb with us. The jeepers always seemed to be the rudeist trailriders at our area also. (if you were not driving a jeep they would not even speak to you)WE always rode at Turkey Bay in Ky.

I'm a Jeep fan, but not crazy about what they put out stock. My Jeep is 90% GM parts now. The fact is that Jeep parts don't hold up to hard core wheeling, so you just keep replacing things with beefier parts until it stops breaking (does it ever stop?). I'm also not one of those Jeep guys with the attitude. We go to have fun and enjoy meeting other people and their various rigs. I'll always stop to help someone on the trail - that's part of the fun. Generally, I get the same in return when I need it. I've been to Turkey Bay and watched you guys climb crazy steep hills with those buggies. It's pretty impressive what you can do with relatively little HP and low weight. One guy tried a particularly nasty hill (I would NEVER attempt it with any Jeep) and rolled to the bottom after almost making it. His buddy pulled him back to camp to fix a few things and check the buggy over. They were back shortly, and he made it to the top the next try. #ad

 

[Rattler]

I did not mean to say that all jeepers are rude, just the ones who take the(its a jeep thing, you woundnt understand) thing to seriously. Your right though, its all about helping each other.

 

[JFitzgerald]

I did not mean to say that all jeepers are rude, just the ones who take the(its a jeep thing, you woundnt understand) thing to seriously. Your right though, its all about helping each other.

No offense taken. I've met plenty of those guys. Seems like I have to win some people over at times because they expect that attitude just because I'm driving a Jeep, or what's left of one.

I like the decals and shirts I've seen that say if you have one of those "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand" decals - YOU don't understand. :-laf

 

[rbattelle]

a wise man's money will be on a Land Rover.

Defender 90!! Oo.



[I want one]



-Ryan

 

[willysrule]

If I was to put money on a bet between any "showroom" stock vehicles my money would be on a Wrangler Rubicon or a Land Rover... . on the trails in my area neither of them would be beat... . muddy off camber trails, wet rocks, powerlines, gas lines, logging roads...

 

[brods]

Hummmmmmmmmmers

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Yeah, they are somewhat capable if you leave all the soccer mom parts behind

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Opps might need an alignment!

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Typical American poser machine. $50K+ to buy a gigantic brick with wheels, another $50k to put gas in it and 99. 9% of em will never set a tire off the asphalt... ..... priceless.



Kudos to those who actual drove em on the trails. Same kudos to the engineers who had to juggle the conflicting design parameters: "Mall Rated" grocery getter with enough off-road ability to satisfy the journalists. On the bright side, give it 10 to 15 years and there might some used ones for sale cheap enough to flog on the trails .

 

[RHancock]

Rovers... . Jeeps... You guys odviously haven't wheeled a Cruiser... My 97 land cruiser has factory lockers. , straight axles, and long travel coil spring suspension, Stock I have wheeled with both jeeps and rovers and they both have a hard time. Add a 2 inch lift and some real tires and and the cruiser really shines... and you can haul the kids to school and still wheel it hard... BTW neither the Rover or the Jeep has a full floater rearend... ..... and that is just the start... Look at the drivetrain and axles under the Land Cruiser then the jeep and rover parts look like toys...



Oh and one other thing it is a Toyota so you dont have to wrench on it... . like a jeep and you dont have electrical problems like a rover.

 

[BStegall]

Agreed about the Land Cruisers.



Nothing we've got in the states can compete with the versions available in Europe. Just about everything is available with a diesel and manual transmission, and many of the vehicles that have IFS in the states, have solid axles overseas. Apparently the "plush ride" in an SUV is strictly an American "want".



What I would give for an 05 toyota crewcab hilux with diesel and 5spd...

 

[Hohn]

There is nothing out there except the H1 that can match it off road stock.

Spoken like a guy that's never driven a Wrangler Rubicon.

 

[Dl5treez]

Spoken like a guy that's never driven a Wrangler Rubicon.

I haven't yet either but am curious what you thought about it?







Land Cruisers are great vehicles as well. I chose/choose the Land Rover mostly from what I've read/watched/heard about the now defunct Camel Trophy events where basically stock diesel units performed quite well. No doubt a 'Cruiser would do the same.



Ah, to be able to import something from Australia.