Heard today they had 88% of the Pittsburgh market.
Overall the highest rated Super Bowl since... ... 1995. . Steelers vs Cowboys.
Overall the highest rated Super Bowl since... ... 1995. . Steelers vs Cowboys.
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I heard something about that today on the radio,
could have been 88% of the crowd at the game was pittsburgh too LOL
could have been 88% of the crowd at the game was pittsburgh too LOL
Seahawk coach is still whining. 
250,000 showed up for the Steeler parade. Not much work got done in Pittsburgh yesterday, lol.
250,000 showed up for the Steeler parade. Not much work got done in Pittsburgh yesterday, lol.
What was a joke, was Seahawks two missed field goals, and mouth Stevens dropping more balls than he caught. :{
Watch the replays, the calls were close, but right. Except for the Hasselbach fumble recovered by Pittsburgh, that was overturned.
Fans can whine about bad calls, a Coach should lead by example.
From the whining and not shaking Cowhers hand, I have lost all respect for Holgram.
Watch the replays, the calls were close, but right. Except for the Hasselbach fumble recovered by Pittsburgh, that was overturned.
Fans can whine about bad calls, a Coach should lead by example.
From the whining and not shaking Cowhers hand, I have lost all respect for Holgram.
This for the Seattle Browns, Or the Cleveland Seahawk fans.
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Sled Puller said:
It's not just Seahawk or Browns fans that have been saying that game was a total sham. Have you read national papers, or watched PTI or Around the Horn on ESPN? It's just a shame that the game wasnt properly officiated. If that means the Steelers still win, then so be it, but I doubt they win if that game is officiated correctly.
Oh heres a nice article http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5313884
And I hope you enjoy the pic :-laf
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Talk about sore loosers... ... ... ... you need look no further than the coach himself for the reason for the loss. That's why he is whinning about the offcials so loud, trying to distract from his failure to fully prepare his team. The end of both halves were a dismal failure for Seattle. I've seen High School teams manage the clock better.
Ol' Roth got in by the way, you could see it clearly on the replay. The plane of the goal line is the edge of the white line and the ball clearly crossed it... ... not by much mind you but it definitely got there. When they made the call I thought he had been stopped short but after seeing it a couple of time they got it right.
Exactly.
"The game was properly officiated, including, as in most NFL games, some tight plays that produced disagreement about the calls made by the officials," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement.
The officiating, though, has been a the major topic of discussion since Sunday night. Right after the game, Holmgren suggested that the first-quarter offensive interference call on the Seahawks' Darrell Jackson, negating what would have been the game's first touchdown, probably should have been "a no call. "
Holmgren, a former chairman of the NFL's rule-making competition committee fueled the debate Monday during a rally for the Seahawks at Qwest Field when he said, "We knew it was going to be tough going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well. "
The questionable calls:
Replays on the offensive interference call showed that Jackson's arms made contact with Pittsburgh's Chris Hope and that they separated afterward. Under the rules, pass interference took place but sometimes the call isn't made. (SO, SOMETIMES THE RULE COUNTS SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T, LMAO)
The first TD of the game scored on a third-down rollout by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger late in the first half. Roethlisberger appeared to come down short of the goal line, but it was unclear on replay whether he had gotten the ball to the line before going down. Referee Bill Leavy upheld the call because there was not enough incontrovertible evidence to overturn it. (EGE OF THE BALL CROSSED THE EDGE OF THE LINE, SCORE)
Holding call on Sean Locklear in the fourth: Locklear's penalty erased an 18-yard completion from Matt Hasselbeck to Jerramy Stevens to the Pittsburgh 1 that would have put the Seahawks in position to go ahead 17-14 with around 12 minutes left. It was a close call that was difficult to see on replay.
One call that clearly appeared erroneous came after that penalty, when Hasselbeck threw an interception to Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor, then made the tackle but was called for a block below the waist, giving the Steelers an extra 15 yards. They scored soon afterward on a pass from Antwaan Randle El to Hines Ward. Replays showed Hasselbeck never made contact with the player he was supposed to have hit illegally, instead going straight to Taylor to make the tackle.
(I MAY GIVE THEM THAT ONE, BUT WE CLEARLY HAD RECOVERED hASSELEBUCKS FUMBLE AND THEY TOO THAT AWAY. )
The Super Bowl crew headed by Leavy was comprised of officials who graded out best at each position during the regular season.
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Byers is right, nice clock management. The Seahawks failed at almost every aspect of the game, their defense kept them in it.
Rookies.
"The game was properly officiated, including, as in most NFL games, some tight plays that produced disagreement about the calls made by the officials," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement.
The officiating, though, has been a the major topic of discussion since Sunday night. Right after the game, Holmgren suggested that the first-quarter offensive interference call on the Seahawks' Darrell Jackson, negating what would have been the game's first touchdown, probably should have been "a no call. "
Holmgren, a former chairman of the NFL's rule-making competition committee fueled the debate Monday during a rally for the Seahawks at Qwest Field when he said, "We knew it was going to be tough going up against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going to have to play the guys in the striped shirts as well. "
The questionable calls:
Replays on the offensive interference call showed that Jackson's arms made contact with Pittsburgh's Chris Hope and that they separated afterward. Under the rules, pass interference took place but sometimes the call isn't made. (SO, SOMETIMES THE RULE COUNTS SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T, LMAO)
The first TD of the game scored on a third-down rollout by Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger late in the first half. Roethlisberger appeared to come down short of the goal line, but it was unclear on replay whether he had gotten the ball to the line before going down. Referee Bill Leavy upheld the call because there was not enough incontrovertible evidence to overturn it. (EGE OF THE BALL CROSSED THE EDGE OF THE LINE, SCORE)
Holding call on Sean Locklear in the fourth: Locklear's penalty erased an 18-yard completion from Matt Hasselbeck to Jerramy Stevens to the Pittsburgh 1 that would have put the Seahawks in position to go ahead 17-14 with around 12 minutes left. It was a close call that was difficult to see on replay.
One call that clearly appeared erroneous came after that penalty, when Hasselbeck threw an interception to Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor, then made the tackle but was called for a block below the waist, giving the Steelers an extra 15 yards. They scored soon afterward on a pass from Antwaan Randle El to Hines Ward. Replays showed Hasselbeck never made contact with the player he was supposed to have hit illegally, instead going straight to Taylor to make the tackle.
(I MAY GIVE THEM THAT ONE, BUT WE CLEARLY HAD RECOVERED hASSELEBUCKS FUMBLE AND THEY TOO THAT AWAY. )
The Super Bowl crew headed by Leavy was comprised of officials who graded out best at each position during the regular season.
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Byers is right, nice clock management. The Seahawks failed at almost every aspect of the game, their defense kept them in it.
Rookies.
Vaughn MacKenzie
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JHByers said:
It was pretty clear the nose of the ball never touched the plane. And Roth himself said he did not make the touchdown. The ref made the wrong call on the field, and it was upheld by the referee with the lowest percentage of overturned calls.
If the refs did their job properly, then why are so many with no vested interest in the Seahawks saying we got the raw end of the deal, and why do many Steelers fans think Seattle got the shaft?
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I have never been mistaken for a Seahawk fan
In fact,, Being an AFC guy, I always want to see the AFC team win. But the officiating was horrible, second only to the Pittsburg/Colts debacle. Big Ben did NOT get in,, JHB, there is absolutely NO way you can say the ball clearly broke the plane as it is hidden by Ben's arm. . I don't think he got in, but it was close enough that whatever call was made on the field wasn't going to be overturned. The pass interference call was laughable, or a damn shame depending on your point of view. .
I have a great friend of over 20 years from Dayton who happens to be a Steeler fan. He is usually quite logical, not when this SB is concerned though. . He tried to tell me that them taking out Carson Palmer on the second play in the division series game in Cincinnati had NO EFFECT on the outcome of the game!! I tell ya,, you can't argue with a mindset like that.
In fact,, Being an AFC guy, I always want to see the AFC team win. But the officiating was horrible, second only to the Pittsburg/Colts debacle. Big Ben did NOT get in,, JHB, there is absolutely NO way you can say the ball clearly broke the plane as it is hidden by Ben's arm. . I don't think he got in, but it was close enough that whatever call was made on the field wasn't going to be overturned. The pass interference call was laughable, or a damn shame depending on your point of view. .
I have a great friend of over 20 years from Dayton who happens to be a Steeler fan. He is usually quite logical, not when this SB is concerned though. . He tried to tell me that them taking out Carson Palmer on the second play in the division series game in Cincinnati had NO EFFECT on the outcome of the game!! I tell ya,, you can't argue with a mindset like that.
The Steelers had to deal with a horrendous call and a monumental fumble, BUT they still found a way to win, in the Colts game.
The Seahawks played like rookies, and several of their guys and their coach had been to the big game before. .
Take each bad call and reverse it one at a time. The score still favors the Steelers. If you change them ALL in the Seahawks favor, sure they would have won, but each call changes the way the game goes.
"Sham" officiating is a stretch.
Chances are good Bettis would have got in on 4th down.
Offensive pass interference is a RULE, you guys seem to think its ok not to call it because its the Superbowl. Make your own rules up to benefit your team? Nice.
The holding call, flag was thrown before the touchdown was made.
Noone is whining about the fumble recovery the Steelers made that was overturned, oh thats right, becasue they overcame a bad call and found a way to win.
Seahawks, here is a suggestion on how to win games, Stop the stupid penalties, catch the ball, catch the ball IN BOUNDS, don't throw to the other team.
I can't believe I was nice to the Seahawk fans my first post after the game, sheesh!! :-laf
The Seahawks played like rookies, and several of their guys and their coach had been to the big game before. .
Take each bad call and reverse it one at a time. The score still favors the Steelers. If you change them ALL in the Seahawks favor, sure they would have won, but each call changes the way the game goes.
"Sham" officiating is a stretch.
Chances are good Bettis would have got in on 4th down.
Offensive pass interference is a RULE, you guys seem to think its ok not to call it because its the Superbowl. Make your own rules up to benefit your team? Nice.
The holding call, flag was thrown before the touchdown was made.
Noone is whining about the fumble recovery the Steelers made that was overturned, oh thats right, becasue they overcame a bad call and found a way to win.
Seahawks, here is a suggestion on how to win games, Stop the stupid penalties, catch the ball, catch the ball IN BOUNDS, don't throw to the other team.
I can't believe I was nice to the Seahawk fans my first post after the game, sheesh!! :-laf
"It was pretty clear the nose of the ball never touched the plane. "
Two refs said it did or one said it did and the other could not tell from the replay. I have no doubt that it crossed (probably by a 1/2 inch or so) I have a good I for distance and plumb (being a Carpenter)... ... ... ... ... I hate the Steelers so bias is not an issue for me. If the Dolphins are not in the game I really don't care who wins and tend to root for the team I dislike the least. Holmgren's coaching lost this game plain and simple.
"If the refs did their job properly, then why are so many with no vested interest in the Seahawks saying we got the raw end of the deal,"
Everybody likes to be in the middle of controversy... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . stirring the post just seems to be America's favorite past time.
"JHB, there is absolutely NO way you can say the ball clearly broke the plane as it is hidden by Ben's arm"
As I stated, I know how long a football is and have a keen eye for gauging distances and plumb, it crossed not doubt about it in my mind.
Two refs said it did or one said it did and the other could not tell from the replay. I have no doubt that it crossed (probably by a 1/2 inch or so) I have a good I for distance and plumb (being a Carpenter)... ... ... ... ... I hate the Steelers so bias is not an issue for me. If the Dolphins are not in the game I really don't care who wins and tend to root for the team I dislike the least. Holmgren's coaching lost this game plain and simple.
"If the refs did their job properly, then why are so many with no vested interest in the Seahawks saying we got the raw end of the deal,"
Everybody likes to be in the middle of controversy... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . stirring the post just seems to be America's favorite past time.
"JHB, there is absolutely NO way you can say the ball clearly broke the plane as it is hidden by Ben's arm"
As I stated, I know how long a football is and have a keen eye for gauging distances and plumb, it crossed not doubt about it in my mind.
Vaughn MacKenzie
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Sled Puller said:
That was a bad call made right. Hasselbeck lost the ball after hitting the ground, and we all know the ball is considered dead at that point if the player was contacted by an opponent beforehand, which clearly happened as shown on the replay. I guess I'm not understanding how that could be interpreted as a bad call in the end
In the end I believe the Steelers deserved the win, I believe it's legit, and I rooted for them all the way through on the AFC side. Clearly the Steelers are a great team. But I strongly beleive the Seahawks came up on the short end of some subpar officiating.
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Oh come on Vaughn!! The ground CAN cause a fumble, and he was going past the defender, the tackle was missed! He fell!
Is this touch football???? You are down if they touch you going by??
West coast BIAS!!!!!LMAO
Is this touch football???? You are down if they touch you going by??
West coast BIAS!!!!!LMAO
So,, Jhb,,
Just how thick is the upper and lower arm of Big Ben? You surely know exactly how thick it is to be able to state beyond a doubt that the ball broke the plane!! What, exactly does your carpenters eye tell you about the size of Big Ben's , , , , , arm??? And how does your eye compensate for the lack of a straight look along the goal line?? Mental math? or mental gymnastics?
Just how thick is the upper and lower arm of Big Ben? You surely know exactly how thick it is to be able to state beyond a doubt that the ball broke the plane!! What, exactly does your carpenters eye tell you about the size of Big Ben's , , , , , arm??? And how does your eye compensate for the lack of a straight look along the goal line?? Mental math? or mental gymnastics?
"Just how thick is the upper and lower arm of Big Ben? You surely know exactly how thick it is to be able to state beyond a doubt that the ball broke the plane!! What, exactly does your carpenters eye tell you about the size of Big Ben's , , , , , arm???"
The arm does not count in football... only the football counts. The arm is irrelevant. I played strong safety and tight end in high school and I know exactly how big the pigskin is.
"And how does your eye compensate for the lack of a straight look along the goal line??"
The same way it gauges the trueness of a wall or a piece of trim running up a door. The same way it can judge if a beam is inline with another beam below it. It is an art and a skill that is part gift and part learned.
This game was lost by the coach with poor game management at the end of both halves... ... plain and simple. If you continue to fret over a refs call and fail to fix the real problem then Seatle will find themselves in the same spot and will fall victim to the same situation.
The arm does not count in football... only the football counts. The arm is irrelevant. I played strong safety and tight end in high school and I know exactly how big the pigskin is.
"And how does your eye compensate for the lack of a straight look along the goal line??"
The same way it gauges the trueness of a wall or a piece of trim running up a door. The same way it can judge if a beam is inline with another beam below it. It is an art and a skill that is part gift and part learned.
This game was lost by the coach with poor game management at the end of both halves... ... plain and simple. If you continue to fret over a refs call and fail to fix the real problem then Seatle will find themselves in the same spot and will fall victim to the same situation.
Enh - I watched the same replays of the Roethlisberger "touchdown" - and remember that I was cheering for a Steeler's win for the pool here. I don't think he got it. Doesn't mean that TD wasn't only a play away, but I'm as sure as any fan watching on TV that it didn't happen on THAT play. I do agree about Seattle's poor clock management at the end of the first half, but the officiating was as bad as I've ever seen in a football game.
Its funny how guys consider CLOSE, CORRECT calls, bad ones!!
Hey, did I mention the Steelers WON the Super Bowl?
Hey, did I mention the Steelers WON the Super Bowl?
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