Guns, Bows, Shooting Sports, and Hunting super redhawk 454 casull

[BIGNASTY]

You can get what you want and as BIG as you want and that's great!!! If all you plan on is shooting Paper or steel then the sky is the limit (OR YOUR WALLET) But in my case and I mite be wrong JJ's we use our guns for a reason PROTECTION or HUNTING. In this case I would love to have something bigger than my SR in 44 but the bottom line is your not going to stop a bear just by pulling something out that is close to artillery THEY JUST DONT SCARE THAT EASY. You have to be able to HIT what you are SHOOTING at and in a place that will do some good. Thats not so easy to do when im shaking like a dog trying to I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER a peach seed and I REALLY dont need the recoil of the gun to make more of a challenge. I agree with JJ's comment about being all I want to have.

Quote JJ
I have a Super Redhawk in the . 44 caliber version, after firing off two boxes of 330gr +p loads this summer, I kind of agree with BIG, that was as much as I would ever want to handle. I normally shoot 200gr Hornady's, and they are a pleasure, still has a good kick, but I expect it and it no longer is bothersome. I have fired upwards of 800 rounds since purchasing this gun earlier this year, and I love the firearm.

 

[KBurgoyne]

the locking lugs are between the chambers on the ruger, but compared to the smith there is an obvious discrepency in "meatiness"

ruger added a front lockup and extended frame to stiffen up the redhawk though.

 

[GHarman]

You are aware that that both the . 454 Casull and the . 460 Operate at 50,000-60,000 PSI chamber pressures. That specific has been mentioned. However, the consequences of that pressure range have not been discussed. The fact is, the higher the pressure the higher the temperature of the powder gasses, in the range of 3200-3400*F. . High pressure coupled with these temperatures and the duration contribute to erosion and damage to your firearm. To contain high temperature gasses requires tight tolerances. Gas cutting of the top strap and throat erosion are two of the most common consequences. Sloppy cylinder to barrel gap and soft cored bullets coupled with high pressure loads will make short work of your prized resolver. If your choice of resolver has more than . 004" gap along with any end play in the cylinder? I would consider another avenue, IMHO.

That is one reason I like the Freedom Arms Revolver.

GregH

 

[KBurgoyne]

the article on the 460 smith mentions that the cylinder gap is . 003. the hottest load mentioned for the 460 in a hodgdon manual was 57,300 PSI. 53,700 CUP for the 454. ive noticed that hodgdon listings are generally not very conservative. ive seen a load for the freedom arms gun listed at 58,000 CUP. most everything i intend to load will be under 40,000 PSI. the smith has an extra long cylinder so it can fire spitzer bullets or bullets seated to the first crimp groove. i dont want to shoot the oh my gods just because i can. i just want a gun that can easily stand up to the oh my gods so it will last forever shooting light to moderate stuff.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

CUP and PSI readings aren't the same. IIRC, PSI tends to be noticeably higher numbers. Also, the split frame of a double action is inherently weaker than a single action, but you said you want a double. . .

 

[KBurgoyne]

anybody know if smith and wesson makes an unfluted cylinder for the 460. hopefully without going through the custom shop.

 

[HHhuntitall]

Good article: http://www.gunblast.com/SW460XVR.htm

 

[KBurgoyne]

yes it is a good article. look at post #17

 

[HHhuntitall]

HEY!! I KNEW I had seen that article somewhere before!! I just couldn't remember where!! :-laf Lack of sleep is an Obummer.....

 

[KBurgoyne]

HEY!! I KNEW I had seen that article somewhere before!! I just couldn't remember where!! :-laf Lack of sleep is an Obummer.....

it happens. anyway i went to the gun shop and gave one a look. not as heavy as i thought it would be actually, but i wish i had brought my feeler gauge to check the gap. now go get some sleep.

 

[KBurgoyne]

a very indepth article on the 460. http://www.americanrifleman.org/Webcontent/pdf/2009-6/200961684835-smithwesson460.pdf

it shot a 2/3 in group for 5 shots at 50 yards with the factory ammo. apparently thereis a special powder used in 460 ammo that has yet to be released in keg form.