Switched to SD350, 2004 5.9 Maintenace Stuff for Sale

[BILLVO]

I don't know why your Dodge had so many problems. You had an 04 and you owned it 1. 3 years. Whoever owned it before you must have drove it like they stole it and beat the crap out of it. george

I have to agree with your statement above 100% Hard to blame the company for problems brought on by previous ownership. If you where the first buyer and had these issues then you would have a case against Dodge but not as second owner.

I agree that the Cummins is the premier engine currently found in Diesel pickups. As a former Caterpillar employee, I wish that Ford had opted to work with Cat instead of IH when they started building Diesel pickups, or do all you experts consider Caterpillar engines to be sub-par as well?

Anything smaller than the 3406 or C15-C16 engines that cat built were as you put it as Subpar. That is why Cat uses other engines for their smaller equipment like the Perkins spin off that comes to mind right off. Funny now that Cat has teamed up with Navistar to build a better truck engine.

 

[amsoilman]

I agree that the Cummins is still the best pickup diesel engine around, but it needs to be in something other than a Dodge.



In the short time I have owned the Dodge (1. 3 years and 26,000 miles), the engine has been superb. I love the sound and performance of the inline 6. The rest of the truck, not so good. I had to spend big $ to take care of steering problems, and now the whole front end sounds like it is held together with baling wire. Clunks, rattles, and vibrations abound.



The cab needs a lot more rigidity. The doors flutter whenever there is a strong side wind.



I looked at the new Ram 3500, and it was quite nice, but it is still a Dodge body and chassis. What is the future of Dodge (or Ram)? Does Fiat own the company or Obama? After the screwing the current administration gave the bond and stock holders of GM (and Chrysler), of which I was one, I was not about to buy a Chevy or GMC.



As I told the Ford guy when I first looked at the new pickup in May, if it had a Cummins in it I would buy it today.



Wish me luck with my new pickup.

I'll be one of the first to wish you luck on your new Ford! I certainly hope it turns out good for you, since you have not been satisfied with the Dodge/Cummins combo.

I have had three of the Dodge/Cummins pickups begineing in 1991, then a 94, and presently a 2003 with nearly 95,000 on it. All were purchased new, and all of them have had little or no problems to speak of. The newer one, the 2003, has literally been the very best, with no MAJOR problems at all, just routine maintenance. I don't do oil changes as I use the Amsoil fluids, and By-pass oil filtration, and have the oil Analyzed every 10K miles, which stiil is reported as "continue use".



I do wish you the best in your choice of the 2001 Ford.

 

[Hardrocker]

The guy who I bought the truck from was the original owner. He provided me with all the records, and I put them on an Excel spreadsheet. At the time I traded the truck it was in need of more front end work.



Maintenance and Repair Records -- 2004 Dodge Pickup Ram 3500



Oil Changes

Date Miles Interval Description

9/29/2003 6 Original Purchase

12/30/2003 3,234 3,228 Oil Change Delvac

3/5/2004 6,935 3,701 Oil Change Delvac

5/30/2004 23,097 16,162 Oil Change Delvac

10/14/2005 39,258 16,162 Oil Change Delvac

1/5/2006 43,277 4,019 Oil Change Delvac

2/14/2006 45,039 1,762 Oil Change Delvac

6/28/2006 55,329 10,290 Oil Change Delvac

8/23/2006 59,648 4,319 Oil Change Delvac

12/8/2006 66,261 6,613 Oil Change Delvac

4/24/2007 74,672 8,411 Oil Change Delvac

6/1/2007 77,296 2,624 Oil Change Delvac

7/20/2007 80,570 3,274 Oil Change Delvac

8/31/2007 84,229 3,659 Oil Change Delvac

12/18/2007 91,180 6,951 Oil Change Delvac

3/27/2009 98,606 Purchased by Hardrocker

3/29/2009 98,721 7,541 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

8/31/2009 105,095 6,374 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

11/21/2009 107,543 2,448 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

5/11/2010 112,060 4,517 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, Cummins Filter

8/23/2010 121,883 9,823 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, Baldwin Filter



Other Maintenance and Repairs

6/4/2004 55275539-AE Backlite 23064314(?)

2/14/2006 45,039 Tires, Auto Trans Flush, Fuel Filter, Oil Chg.

8/23/2006 59,648 Replace Fuel Filter

12/8/2006 66,261 Replace Air Filter

4/27/2007 74,672 Tire Rotation

7/20/2007 80,570 Replace Air Filter, Transmission Flush

7/30/2007 Front Brake Pads and Rotors

11/1/2007 Joint Non

11/1/2007 AB Joint Non

12/18/2007 91,180 Fuel Filter

2/1/2008 92,718 Warranty Work -- Replace Fuel Transfer Pump

2/6/2008 92,718 Warranty Work -- New Lift Pump

2/6/2008 92,718 Replace Fuel Filter

2/14/2008 Ball Joints, Rotors, Pads, Hubs, Shoes, Tie Rods, Damper

3/1/2008 AB Joint Non

3/12/2008 AB Joint Non

4/2/2008 Pad Kit, Shoe Kit Drum

2/6/2009 Sensor Ant

3/27/2009 98,606 Vehicle Purchased by Hardrocker

5/6/2010 111,976 19,258 Replace Fuel Filter -- Supplied in Jeno's kit

7/24/2010 114,181 33,611 Flush and Refill Transmission

7/26/2010 114,941 Replace Drag Link and Pittman Arm

8/25/2010 121,913 Drain and Refill Differentials

8/25/2010 121,913 Replace Air Cleaner



9/24/2010 122,517 Traded on Ford F350

 

[RVTRKN]

120K on the differential oil, scares the hell out of me.



I hope the Ford works out for you, I have to admit their cab is second to none. The 6. 7 is just so unorthodox the way it breaths, but just might be the solution to the exhaust setup when configured in a V8 for all makes. The price tags are so much more now with the Auto companies because the profits are in the light HD trucks and is why Ford spent so much in the design.



But, every Ford I have ever owned have had a high ownership cost because they always have issues. I can say that my Dodges have been reliable and ownership costs have been low to non exsistant. 72-A100 318 gasser, 92-Dakota 318 magnum, 94-2500HD 360 gasser, 04. 5-2500 CTD, 07 3500 C&C CTD. The cabs may not be as nice as a Ford, but this is a small price to pay for reliability in my opinion.

 

[Grizzly]

The guy who I bought the truck from was the original owner. He provided me with all the records, and I put them on an Excel spreadsheet. At the time I traded the truck it was in need of more front end work.



Maintenance and Repair Records -- 2004 Dodge Pickup Ram 3500



Oil Changes

Date Miles Interval Description

9/29/2003 6 Original Purchase

12/30/2003 3,234 3,228 Oil Change Delvac

3/5/2004 6,935 3,701 Oil Change Delvac

5/30/2004 23,097 16,162 Oil Change Delvac

10/14/2005 39,258 16,162 Oil Change Delvac

1/5/2006 43,277 4,019 Oil Change Delvac

2/14/2006 45,039 1,762 Oil Change Delvac

6/28/2006 55,329 10,290 Oil Change Delvac

8/23/2006 59,648 4,319 Oil Change Delvac

12/8/2006 66,261 6,613 Oil Change Delvac

4/24/2007 74,672 8,411 Oil Change Delvac

6/1/2007 77,296 2,624 Oil Change Delvac

7/20/2007 80,570 3,274 Oil Change Delvac

8/31/2007 84,229 3,659 Oil Change Delvac

12/18/2007 91,180 6,951 Oil Change Delvac

3/27/2009 98,606 Purchased by Hardrocker

3/29/2009 98,721 7,541 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

8/31/2009 105,095 6,374 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

11/21/2009 107,543 2,448 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, K&N Filter

5/11/2010 112,060 4,517 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, Cummins Filter

8/23/2010 121,883 9,823 Oil Change Shell Rotella T, Baldwin Filter



Other Maintenance and Repairs

6/4/2004 55275539-AE Backlite 23064314(?)

2/14/2006 45,039 Tires, Auto Trans Flush, Fuel Filter, Oil Chg.

8/23/2006 59,648 Replace Fuel Filter

12/8/2006 66,261 Replace Air Filter

4/27/2007 74,672 Tire Rotation

7/20/2007 80,570 Replace Air Filter, Transmission Flush

7/30/2007 Front Brake Pads and Rotors

11/1/2007 Joint Non

11/1/2007 AB Joint Non

12/18/2007 91,180 Fuel Filter

2/1/2008 92,718 Warranty Work -- Replace Fuel Transfer Pump

2/6/2008 92,718 Warranty Work -- New Lift Pump

2/6/2008 92,718 Replace Fuel Filter

2/14/2008 Ball Joints, Rotors, Pads, Hubs, Shoes, Tie Rods, Damper

3/1/2008 AB Joint Non

3/12/2008 AB Joint Non

4/2/2008 Pad Kit, Shoe Kit Drum

2/6/2009 Sensor Ant

3/27/2009 98,606 Vehicle Purchased by Hardrocker

5/6/2010 111,976 19,258 Replace Fuel Filter -- Supplied in Jeno's kit

7/24/2010 114,181 33,611 Flush and Refill Transmission

7/26/2010 114,941 Replace Drag Link and Pittman Arm

8/25/2010 121,913 Drain and Refill Differentials

8/25/2010 121,913 Replace Air Cleaner



9/24/2010 122,517 Traded on Ford F350

I don't see a whole lot of thing that went wrong with the Dodge, other than front end work. Which indicates that he either had oversize tires on it or he bounced it around a lot on Forest Service roads or used it it's entire life on a farm roads.



george

 

[Hardrocker]

120K on the differential oil, scares the hell out of me. QUOTE]



This was one the previous owner claimed had been done at 60k miles, but he did not have a shop record of it.

 

[Hardrocker]

I don't see a whole lot of thing that went wrong with the Dodge, other than front end work. Which indicates that he either had oversize tires on it or he bounced it around a lot on Forest Service roads or used it it's entire life on a farm roads.



george

He was actually a building contractor, and he did tow a gooseneck trailer with it. However, he couldn't have done too much towing because the computer claimed it had gotten in excess of 19 mpg, and he claimed never to have reset the computer since he owned the truck.



When I got the truck it had 245 rather than 265 tires on it. Of course, it could have had larger tires on it earlier in life.

 

[HBarlow]

Like Grizzly, all I see in the records was basically routine but irrregular maintenance and, in several cases, neglect.

What was the basis of complaints about the quality, reliability, or durability of the Dodge?

 

[Dl5treez]

As an owner of both Dodge and Ford -I can honestly say both have been okay trucks.

I much prefer the Cummins over the Powerstrokes but much prefer the Ford truck over the Dodge.

The steering, suspension, braking, interior trim quality, paint quality, exterior fit & finish, and overall ability to stay together while being driven down logging road after logging road have shown--in many people's opinions here in the PNW--that the Ford truck, as a whole, is more well built than the Dodge. I own two Dodges from two generations (95 and 07), and three Fords from three generations (87, 96, 03), and the old Fords are still going. The '95 Dodge has been removed from woods duty because she is just flat not reliable up there anymore. She still runs great and gets over 20mpg on the highway, but it seems like every time we leave the pavement something else breaks.

I will agree that no IH/Ford diesel engine can hang with the Cummins, but Dodge has a long way to go before their truck can compare with a Ford.

Towing a heavy trailer up and down the freeway is only one way to use a truck... . I agree that seeing many "6 oh no's" on the hook can make the entire Ford product look bad, and I sincerely wish they would get away from the direction they keep going with these engines, but it seems to be working for them in the sales arena. There isn't enough money in the world to get me to buy a "6 oh no" though... . ever.

 

[Hardrocker]

Like Grizzly, all I see in the records was basically routine but irrregular maintenance and, in several cases, neglect.



What was the basis of complaints about the quality, reliability, or durability of the Dodge?

Perhaps my experience was skewed, having owned only GM pickups in the past, which required no drivetrain or front end work with over 160k on one.



The previous owner had replaced the ball joints and hubs at around 93k, and my mechanic said they needed to be done again at 122k. That seems a little excessive to me.



The previous owner claimed to have had maintenace work done while away from his home base, but he did not have the records, so the list is not complete.



If there was a lack of maintenance for the differentials and engine, it did not result in problems with either.



What maintenance do you you all perform on hubs, ball joints, and tie rods that would have prolonged their lives? The steeing gear is greasable, but what else do you do?

 

[Hardrocker]

I believe that the new Ford diesel is made in Mexico. If that is so what have you gained?

You "believe" that the new engine is made in Mexico. Yea, that is unassailable proof!

 

[Hardrocker]

Anyone who sincerely believes that selecting a truck from Furd, GM, or Dodge are equivalent choices based only on minor differences in features and benefits simply does not understand the fundamental design characteristics for a working engine.

Wow. We are in the presence of greatness. Teach us, oh Great One!

 

[SierraRam]

The thing I don't understand is why try to convince us you made a good decision? Sell you parts and drivr your Ford, you believe you made a good decision and thats all that matters.



If you ask the majority of us we will not agree. Anyway I would like to see the same maintenance list on your new SD when it hits 125K. Should be interesting.

 

[HBarlow]

I wonder what a Furd dealer charges now to remove and reinstall the cab on an out of warranty truck? That should be a lot of fun.

 

[BILLVO]

I wonder what a Furd dealer charges now to remove and reinstall the cab on an out of warranty truck? That should be a lot of fun.

A lot of shops remove the cabs to do major work on Duramaxes also. Its easier than working under the hood and easier than removing the engine.

 

[Grizzly]

Even if the new Ford engine were a good diesel engine, which I doubt, why would anyone in his right mind buy the first year of production. Why not give Furd a year or two to work out the bugs.



Well, looks like they never worked out the bugs on the infamous 6. 0 and the 6. 4.



george

 

[Grizzly]

As an owner of both Dodge and Ford -I can honestly say both have been okay trucks.



I much prefer the Cummins over the Powerstrokes but much prefer the Ford truck over the Dodge.



The steering, suspension, braking, interior trim quality, paint quality, exterior fit & finish, and overall ability to stay together while being driven down logging road after logging road have shown--in many people's opinions here in the PNW--that the Ford truck, as a whole, is more well built than the Dodge. I own two Dodges from two generations (95 and 07), and three Fords from three generations (87, 96, 03), and the old Fords are still going. The '95 Dodge has been removed from woods duty because she is just flat not reliable up there anymore. She still runs great and gets over 20mpg on the highway, but it seems like every time we leave the pavement something else breaks.



I will agree that no IH/Ford diesel engine can hang with the Cummins, but Dodge has a long way to go before their truck can compare with a Ford.



Towing a heavy trailer up and down the freeway is only one way to use a truck... . I agree that seeing many "6 oh no's" on the hook can make the entire Ford product look bad, and I sincerely wish they would get away from the direction they keep going with these engines, but it seems to be working for them in the sales arena. There isn't enough money in the world to get me to buy a "6 oh no" though... . ever.

I certainly can not agree with that statement. I don't see many Dodge trucks in the shop for any reason, however you see a lot of Fords in the shop for everything from engine to power windows to exhaust and everything else in between. Just ask my brother-in-law. His 08 Super Duty with a sick oh 6. 4 is always at the dealer with some problem, including engine.

 

[upsmsp]

The 6. 7 Powerstroke (also known as code name scorpion) is being built in Fords engine manufacturing plant in Mexico, You can read this for yourself on pickuptruck.com First Look: Ford's All-New 6. 7-Liter V-8 Power Stroke Diesel Engine - PickupTrucks.com News. As far as durability and longevity, we will see. Contract with IH was dropped in January. Hope they were working on it longer than 6 months. This is Fords 3rd diesel engine in 7 yrs. Why so many changes? Low on power, poor fuel economy, NO reliability. I'm sure they got it right this time, or in 2 or 3 yrs when they introduce the 6. 5 Powerstroke now with big rig sound.

 

[Dl5treez]

I certainly can not agree with that statement. I don't see many Dodge trucks in the shop for any reason, however you see a lot of Fords in the shop for everything from engine to power windows to exhaust and everything else in between. Just ask my brother-in-law. His 08 Super Duty with a sick oh 6. 4 is always at the dealer with some problem, including engine.

We will agree to disagree. :-laf



There are samples of each in my yard if you would like to compare.

 

[Dl5treez]

The 6. 7 Powerstroke (also known as code name scorpion) is being built in Fords engine manufacturing plant in Mexico, You can read this for yourself on pickuptruck.com First Look: Ford's All-New 6. 7-Liter V-8 Power Stroke Diesel Engine - PickupTrucks.com News. As far as durability and longevity, we will see. Contract with IH was dropped in January. Hope they were working on it longer than 6 months. This is Fords 3rd diesel engine in 7 yrs. Why so many changes? Low on power, poor fuel economy, NO reliability. I'm sure they got it right this time, or in 2 or 3 yrs when they introduce the 6. 5 Powerstroke now with big rig sound.

Navistar dropped the T444E (7. 3 Powerstroke) due to inability to meet EPA emissions requirements. They designed the VT365 (6. 0 Powerstroke) that Ford along with Navistar then modified ever so slightly for use in a light truck. Both versions have been nothing but trouble, so Navistar again dropped the VT365 and came out with the MaxxForce 7 (6. 4 Powerstroke) although in 2008 only the Ford version had the sequential compound turbochargers... . the Navistar version did not get those until 2010.

For 2011, Ford is using their in-house designed 6. 7 liter engine code named the "Scorpion" but using the Powerstroke nameplate that they jointly held trademark on with Navistar. As part of the settlement Ford was allowed to continue use of it.

Many of the issues with the Ford diesels weren't Ford issues at all, but still many were.

Ironically, the 6. 0 Powerstroke, forever living on as one of the biggest POS's ever brought to market, was a Ward's Ten Best Engines of 2003..... I guess they thought it was cool looking or something. :-laf