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Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) T-Case & OD Unit Carnage - seen this before?

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Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) White Smoke and Loping Idle

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New to this forum, but own a 2000 2500 4x4 w/AOD. It's used as a DD and for occasionally towing my 16' flatbed trailer and '69 Ford Bronco rock crawler. Recently while driving empty on the interstate, it seemed as if the t-case went into neutral without moving the 4WD shift lever. Didn't take long to figure out that the t-case had a major problem. After trailering it home and dropping the t-case, here's what I found. Upon removing the t-case drain plug, it was empty - not good at all. :{



The first pic is of the tailshaft bearing housing. Obviously it cracked, which allowed the oil to drain from the case.



Upon further inspection, (second pic) here's the mode shift fork; no wonder it wouldn't shift properly.



Lots of metal shavings inside the case (4th pic)



That's not the worst unfortunately. Here's what the back of the transmission overdrive unit where the t-case mounts up looks like (3rd pic) :eek:



The truck has never been wrecked or four wheeled hard. I have no idea what the root cause of this is... After a very thorough search, I can't find a used OD unit as salvage yards aren't willing to separate it from the trans, which I can understand. Dodge wants $1000 for a new complete OD unit :eek: and $400 for a new OD unit casing, so that's out of the question. A local trans shop has found a used OD unit case for $150, into which they're going to swap the OD unit guts into from my broken one.



Final tally:

- Rebuilt t-case w/warranty = $750

- Used OD unit case = $150

- Labor = $400



TOTAL = $1300



It could have been much worse since I was able to trailer it home on my trailer using my son's Powersmoke truck (which, incidentally, didn't pull the very heavy load too well through the Colorado mountains) so I didn't have a towing bill to pay.



Anyone seen or heard of anything like this happening? Any guesses as to the root cause of this?
 
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You didn't comment on damage inside of the case. What's the chain look like? The gears?



My guess is some balls dropped out of a bearing race, or chain broke.
 
nps said:
You didn't comment on damage inside of the case. What's the chain look like? The gears?



My guess is some balls dropped out of a bearing race, or chain broke.

The inside of the t-case is actually in pretty good condition, except for the mode shift fork, considering that it was run without any oil for some amount of time. All bearings look good with no balls dropped out; the chain and gears are fine. I really think that if I replaced the mode fork it would be good to go for a while, but I'm installing a completely rebuilt case just to be safe.



The front u-joint on the rear driveshaft went bad a few months ago (broke one cap, most likely just worn out) and it developed a vibration. As soon as I noticed the vibration I knew what it was and replaced the u-joint and had the driveshaft balanced. I have a hard time believing that the vibration from that could have caused this, but I guess it's possible?
 
I doubt vibration would have caused the damage. Maybe aggravated the situation if cracks were already there.



If the insides are good, them maybe a rock or stump while offroad? My guess is that it was the same thing that caused the driveshaft u joint to go but don't know the number of miles you have on the truck.
 
Being in the auto repair business,Ive seen bad ujoints reek havock on all kinds of drivetrain parts and in a certain ford F250 it destroyed the transfere case and bent the output shaft on the trans. If I were you I'd go thru the trans. Bent parts could hurt the new transferecase. From the looks of the destruction it certainly is a possibity
 
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If I were you I'd go thru the trans. Bent parts could hurt the new transferecase. From the looks of the destruction it certainly is a possibity

A guy who used to work for ATS is going to go through the OD unit for me and check the trans before installing the new t-case.



The truck has 125k miles on it; I'm the 2nd owner and I bought it from the 1st, who is a good friend of mine. It's never been wrecked and doesn't really see much 4x4 use. The skid plate doesn't appear to have been touched recently and obviously hasn't ever been hit hard. The bad u-joint is all I can think of that could have caused this.



Until this happened I had no clue that the actual AOD trans in these trucks is only a 3 speed, with an "Overdrive Unit" on the back. The OD unit is essentially a separate, stand-alone 2 speed auto trans, and it gives it the 4th overdrive gear. (The rear of the OD unit is in the bottom left pic above. )
 
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Huff N Puff said:
Being in the auto repair business,Ive seen bad ujoints reek havock on all kinds of drivetrain parts and in a certain ford F250 it destroyed the transfere case and bent the output shaft on the trans. If I were you I'd go thru the trans. Bent parts could hurt the new transferecase. From the looks of the destruction it certainly is a possibity


I'm in 100% agreement with Huff N Puff's reply above... ... .

The way you describe your u-joint failure- I wouldn't rule that little sucker out from creating the damage- and then to replace the u-joint and continue driving her further brought out your present aggrivations... .....
 
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