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Takata Corp. to recall roughly 34 million vehicles because of defective air bags

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No need for that... just don't have a wreck!:eek:

Bill

This is a much bigger issue then that. Some Ford dealers are refusing to release cars brought in to be checked for the recall. So don't take your vehicle to a dealer and ask about the recall, they may just impound it and wait for one of the 33.8 million replacement parts.

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This is a much bigger issue that. Some Ford dealers are refusing to release cars brought in to be checked for the recall. So don't take your vehicle to a dealer and ask about the recall, they may just impound it and wait for one of the 33.8 million replacement parts.

SNOKING

What he said, I've seen it happen with two employee's Ford Escape's in regards to the fuel tank recall. They are both still at the Ford Dealer. Rentals were provided but one employee recently traded the hostage Escape for another vehicle.
I would certainly check before showing up.....
 
And the bad news:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ll-poses-dilemma-for-u-s-backing-untested-fix

Takata Corp.’s record recall leaves U.S. regulators with a dilemma -- swap defective air bags with parts that may be no safer than the original ones, or shoulder automakers with replacing 34 million vehicles.

For now, Mark Rosekind, director of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, is favoring a fix over the junk yard. In outlining the arrangement covering models from 11 automakers, Rosekind said the long-term safety of the replacement air bags hasn’t been proven, so there’s no guarantee they won’t need to be repaired again.

“Right now, we know that the ones that are going in are safer,” Rosekind said in a briefing Tuesday. “The concern is, are they safe over the long term? That has yet to be determined. And just to be very direct, that does mean that some people might have to go back for a second if we find out that current remedies need to be enhanced, then yes, consumers might have to go back for a second time.” Takata Corp.’s record recall leaves U.S. regulators with a dilemma -- swap defective air bags with parts that may be no safer than the original ones, or shoulder automakers with replacing 34 million vehicles.

For now, Mark Rosekind, director of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, is favoring a fix over the junk yard. In outlining the arrangement covering models from 11 automakers, Rosekind said the long-term safety of the replacement air bags hasn’t been proven, so there’s no guarantee they won’t need to be repaired again.

“Right now, we know that the ones that are going in are safer,” Rosekind said in a briefing Tuesday. “The concern is, are they safe over the long term? That has yet to be determined. And just to be very direct, that does mean that some people might have to go back for a second if we find out that current remedies need to be enhanced, then yes, consumers might have to go back for a second time.”

Again the above isn't 100% accurate,

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/20/b...g-propellant-is-at-center-of-crisis.html?_r=0

Yet despite the fanfare, by 2001 Takata had switched to an alternative formula, ammonium nitrate, and started sending the airbags to automakers, including Honda.

That compound, according to experts, is highly sensitive to temperature changes and moisture, and it breaks down over time. And when it breaks down, it can combust violently, experts say.

“It shouldn’t be used in airbags,” said Paul Worsey, an expert in explosives engineering at the Missouri University of Science and Technology. The compound, he said, is more suitable for large demolitions in mining and construction. “But it’s cheap, unbelievably cheap,” he added.
 
Yet despite the fanfare, by 2001 Takata had switched to an alternative formula, ammonium nitrate, and started sending the airbags to automakers, including Honda.

That compound, according to experts, is highly sensitive to temperature changes and moisture, and it breaks down over time. And when it breaks down, it can combust violently, experts say.

Ammonium nitrate. It's not just for terrorists and farmers anymore...
 
Just had my left TRE and clutch interlock switch recalls handled last month and they told me about drivers side airbag. What I don't understand is why the passenger side airbag is not included as well as side airbags???
 
I'm assuming mine is also. Dumb question, would a dealer be legally able to resale a vehicle that had that recall open?
 
I'm assuming mine is also. Dumb question, would a dealer be legally able to resale a vehicle that had that recall open?

I did a quick online search and what I have found is that it is not illegal for a used car dealer to sell used vehicles that are subject to recall... another example of buyer beware when buying used and the potential buyer must do the research before signing the contract.

Bill
 
This was all I could find with real numbers. It would be nice to have the failure rates for the specific ignitors in our trucks. "Separate faulty inflators affecting BMW, Chrysler, and other automakers posted failure rates of 0.07 and 0.90 percent." Huge difference between 0.07 and 0.9 percent like one out of 1,429 compared to one out of 111.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/takata-doubles-airbag-recall-to-34-million-cars-divulges-even-higher-failure-rates/ said:
As of May 1, Takata has detonated nearly 27,000 airbag inflators from recalled cars brought in for repair. The failure rates are much worse than Takata initially disclosed during a December Congressional hearing, when the recalls were limited to vehicles in so-called “high humidity” states in the southern regions. Honda and Toyota drivers and passengers are most at risk, according to Takata’s analysis. Driver’s-side airbags in 2003–2007 Toyota Corolla and Matrix models (plus the Pontiac Vibe, a twin to the Matrix), as well as 2004–2007 Honda Accord models, recorded the highest failure rates tested by Takata thus far, at 2.16 percent. That means of the 5.2-million examples of vehicles built in those model years—at least 10 of which have already ruptured in crashes—one in 46 may have a defective airbag. Passenger-side airbag inflators taken from 2001–2006 Civic and 2003 Accord models posted a 0.51-percent failure rate (1 in 197 cars).

Separate faulty inflators affecting BMW, Chrysler, and other automakers posted failure rates of 0.07 and 0.90 percent. Takata says it knows of 63 airbag inflators that ruptured during crashes within the U.S. At least six people have died in crashes involving defective Takata inflators—all of them in Honda vehicles—and at least 139 injuries have been reported across all automakers. The company has also laid some blame on automakers for the defects, stating in one report that the “potential for this long-term phenomenon to occur was not within the scope of the testing specifications prescribed by the vehicle manufacturers to Takata.”
 
Looks like it is becoming impossible to dance around the white elephant in the room of using ammonium nitrate in air bags.

Conflicting news, but, I would like to make sure the replacement my trucks gets is from another supplier not using using ammonium nitrate. Conflicting news that they will stop using ammonium nitrate and another article saying they won't stop in their clearly wrong belief that it's safe in their "perfect world". Let's go over it again: largest recall in history and you are the only ones using ammonium nitrate in an air bag. :rolleyes:

http://consumerist.com/2015/06/01/t...m-nitrate-phase-out-certain-airbag-inflators/
http://www.freep.com/story/money/2015/06/01/takata-congress-nhtsa-air-bags-death/28310907/
 
If you go to www.dodge.com and select owner tab then log in you can create an owners account where you put in your vin number. It will show what recalls are open on your vehicle if any. My 2007.5 still shows the steering one open as I never took it in since I had already replaced all the linkage and it shows the airbag one. However no parts are available to fix it.
 
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