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Thats true, though, if I ever got a TDI, I think it would be for mileage/commuting. It just doesn't sound as fun building a VW to race as a 8K diesel truck that can beat camarslows and mustangs:-laf Though, I wonder what a TDI would sound like with a 3" straight pipe? Never looked under the hood of one, so I don't have a clue whats under the hood. That, and I can't keep up with all the projects I have already, let alone one more. Nor do I have the room. Not yet anyway... .