TDR Volunteer in Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas area?

[Mark_Kendrick]

 

[willyslover]

update today

"Actually, I was here till 9:30 last night test fitting one of the kits on

a guys truck. There's a couple of issues that I need to deal with and I'm

not sure what to do at this point. The compressor and mount fit just fine

so there's no issues there but the head of the compressor is extremely

close to the radiator over flow bottle. So close that it will touch it

and possibly melt it when the compressors head gets hot. The simple and

cheap solution is to have the customer (you) push the corner of the bottle

in so it doesn't hit. Other options are either relocating the overflow

bottle or selling a new aftermarket bottle, which will take research and

time. Neither of which I have the time or energy to deal with.



The other issue is the belt tension system. It can be done obviously but

it's a kind of a pain to do. I don't know if there's anything I can do

about it at this point so it might have to stay the way it is.



Anyhow, I have 35 kits sitting here now that still needs to be packaged

up and I still need to make instructions too. Other than that, they're

ready to sell. We'll be assigning the part number KE-3000 to this kit and

the price will be $150. 00 unless I have to do more stuff to relocate that

overflow bottle. "



Brad

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I talked to Brad Over lunch and he said the same thing to me.



My kit does not hit the bottle. The clearance is tight but not an issue. The question is heat. when the compressor is running it gets to 300*+ and he doesn't want to melt the bottle.



I don't think it will melt as long as the fan is running. I would just take a heat gun and reshape the bottle a bit. I don't think it is neccessary though.



Later,

Mark

 

[willyslover]

I responded to him that the bottle was a non issue . . just make sure to put on the web page and in instructions for those that are to anal to see it... ..... also asked if the price was the install kit minus the compressor [for clairification to others reading the thread] . . and what was included in the kit.

 

[JohnMcIntyre]

You are not alone.....

Originally posted by Goddard

can you use the cummins compressor set-up on our dodge?????? .

No chance!! the Cummins compressor would go where the rear engine mount goes in the DC configuration. If it was that easy, we'd have had cracked it years ago.....

 

[Goddard]

any pics??? we have been waiting for this forever!!!!!!!Oo. Oo.



also, if anybody knows pm a price with a compressor.



what is the problem eith the tensioning?

 

[willyslover]

more conversations with Brad. . [read from bottom up as it's fowarded E-mails]



Gary, I agree. The overflow bottle isn't a big deal and can be dealt with

by the owner. However, there's always "those guys" who want everything to

be perfect. A lot of folks don't understand that this is a

"modification", not an "accessory".



The street elbow won't help in this case.

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That's the flange fitting.

If the customer doesn't connect the intake filter directly to the fitting

as I supply the filter, they should remote mount the filter and connect

via a rubber hose. NEVER use additional fittings to "make it work".

These fitting can weigh a lot and the weight leverage can eventually break

the flange. Since the flange is limited to which direction it points to,

the Tube-O fitting would be better. Battery relocation is not necessary

with this kit.



Brad









> Brad . .

> Overflow can be easily relocated or replaced by the owner. . not to worry

> 'bout that.

> I'm not familiar with the flange fitting you refer to. . but wouldn't a

> street

> elbow work or a remote intake location via a pipe [some of us are

> willing to

> relocate or remove a battery for this install. . I for one am thinking of

> optima's and under bed mounting in a SS box for protection ]. . I

> personally

> prefer the York compressor set up v/s others

> Thanks for the ongoing dialog

> Gary

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Brad Kilby" <brad@onboardair.com>

> To: "Gary Troyer" <willyslover@mlode.com>

> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:09 PM

> Subject: Re: info

>

>

> > Gary, this will be the mounting kit only. It'll have the compressor

> > mount, combo pulley for the alternator (Nipponsenso only), V-belt,

> > new serpentine belt, idler pulley, ecentric and hardware. This kit

> will

> > use the EF210R compressor and 25-501939-D V-groove clutch.

> >

> > Now, the EF210R compressor used the flange fittings 28723 but since

> the

> > overflow bottle is in front of the compressor and the air intake tube

> is

> > at the back of the compressor, these flange fittings will be kind of

> > difficult to use. (the compressor lays on it's side with the head

> pointing

> > to the passenger fender) You can swivel the flange fittings a little

> but

> > the bolts on each side limit how far you can swivel them. The option

> > right now is for me to either supply an adapter to convert the

> compressor

> > to a Tube-O head and use the 44760 fittings or just supply Tube-O

> > compressors with this kit. The first option is the cheapest way to

> go

> > since I won't have to stock a second compressor and I'm trying to

> track

> > down those adapters now. Shouldn't be a big deal though.

> >

> > The belt tensioning requires two wrenches. One to pivot the ecentric

> and

> > one to tighten the pivot bolt once the belt is tight. It's a tight

> space

> > so it's kind of hard to get both wrenches in there but it can be

> done.

> >

> > Here's a sneak peek.

> > #ad


> >

> > Brad

> >

> >

> > > Brad

> > > and the kit consists parts including what ? in other words what do

> we

> > > supply... Am I reading that the kit is the install kit including the

> > > bracket

> > > to hang it, and then the compressor is separate [cause that looks

> way

> > > low $$

> > > for a total package]

> > >

> > > don't worry about the bottle. . just make sure you put in the

> > > instructions and

> > > make mention on the web page . . so the dumb sh. . who wants to be a

> smart

> > > ass

> > > can be corrected by us. .

> > >

> > > about the tensioning . . what are the issues ??

> > >

> > > again thanks for update

 

[Thomas]

Brad Kilby at OnboardAir has added the following item to his website. Go there and check out NEW PRODUCTS.



KE-3000

1998-Up Dodge Cummins(24 valve only) York bracket kit

Must have Nippondenso Alternator



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Who's going to be first?

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I am

 

[Thomas]

Have you completed the install Mark? We need a report.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I am working on the twins right now. I had the compressor mouted and it fit w/o interference.



that bracket you are showing is the kit listed above ours.



I have not plubmed in the compressor to use it yet.



later,

Mark

 

[willyslover]

Mark... At Muncie when I saw your mounted compressor... I could have sworn I saw it vertical v/s on it's side ??? did my eyes decieve me ?

[by the way takes a long time to add lines and tank LOL]

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

It really does take a long time... I keep changing other things that takes up the space the tank and lines take up. every time I get ready to mount the lines . . I add water injectioon, nitrous, twins..... LOL



It was laying on it's side like in the picture.

 

[Kilby]

It doesn't take that much time. All you gotta do is quit playing with all the other toys first.

 

[willyslover]

Hey Brad . . good to see ya here it'll stop the back and forth stuff



another question Brad... is oiling an issue with the compressor on it's side v/s vertical ??

 

[Kilby]

Thanks for the welcome! I've been eyeballing the CTD lately and might trade in my '97 V-10 for a new '03. I almost traded for a buddy's '00 but he backed out of the deal at the last minute. Probably a smart thing on his part.



The oiling problem associated with laying the compressor on its side is a myth. The only thing you have to watch for is the location of the suction port. It has to be on top. This is true for any AC compressor, not just the Yorks. If not, the compressor will pump excessive amounts of oil out. Other than that, the factory designed them to stand up or lay down. Check out the bottom left pic from the factory service manual.

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The York uses a splash lube system. In other words, the crankshaft slaps the oil and slings it all over the place. Run it low on oil and the crank can't slap the oil and lube the compressor. Solution: Don't run it low on oil.

 

[Goddard]

what kind of engine rpms will we need to turn for using the compressor? minimums and maximums? thanks.

 

[Kilby]

Engine idle at a minimum. You shouldn't need more than 2000 engine rpm max to spin the compressor for anything else. Usually, 1200-1400 rpm is fast enough to do anything you'll need. That's using it for OBA. The compressor itself is rated between 500-6000 rpm with 4000 being a continuous rating.

 

[hammersley]

I must really be dumb ---

How much does this setup cost?

 

[hammersley]

Does this get in the way of changing the oil filter?

My alternator is a BAZP from my build sheet - BUILD Date - 06/04/2000. Is this a Bosch or Nippo???? BTW - I had several Peugeot Diesel's ( I know - I need counseling) oh what a mess - and it had a Bosch Starter and Alt. They perfectly matched these components with the rest of the car in that they were a POS also!